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  1. VH Veteran jimmalenko's Avatar
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    Let's just look at two statements:


    Originally Posted by Flaystus
    MS only adds "features" to IE when something is broken
    Proven true over time. Name one unique feature MS has added to IE.
    Utter rubbish. You mentioned the popup blocker, and that it was added because people complained. It is the website creator to blame for popups, not the browser entirely. True, the browser can take pre-emptive measures, but it is the scripting of the page that uses genuine HTML and Javascript techniques for opening windows dynamically that is being exploited. That is not the fault of ANY browser. IE didn't have a popup-blocker, so they added one. What was broken ?

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    Originally Posted by Flaystus
    But why let yourself be a target if a few mins will get you something else.
    True, it also the reason why Mac has almost no virus problems.
    It is sometimes wise to join minority groups. As you say, they are generally exempt from any attacks because the target audience is not considered large enough. It is another story to call that a fact of a "flaw" with IE. It is a con of using it. Different. Based on that logic, I would expect you to be either using a MAC or Linux. After all, Windows XP is the most popular so therefore must be the biggest target.

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    I think there are some basic misunderstandings of my points in at least one case but thats ok. Like I said I'm dropping the subject now. No reason to wail away at each other over it.

    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    Don't forget that when you're wearing your mod hat, many people take what you say as gospel.
    I'm surprised if ANYONE on this forum takes me seriously. I dont take myself very seriously. But lets test.

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    very good.

    I'm happy to walk away
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    Jim,

    Unfortunately you are wrong about user base.

    The bulk of the user base still uses windows 9x.
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    Originally Posted by bazooka
    Unfortunately you are wrong about user base.

    The bulk of the user base still uses windows 9x.
    Really, even considering corporate users ?
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    Yep

    They still use 9x so they can do customer stuff.
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    That's interesting considering Microsoft's support for Win98 has all but concluded. I don't know if there are any stats to back that up. Whether that is true or not is a semantic though. You could interchange WinXP with Win98 in the context I used it in and it would still make perfect sense.
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    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    That's interesting considering Microsoft's support for Win98 has all but concluded. I don't know if there are any stats to back that up. Whether that is true or not is a semantic though. You could interchange WinXP with Win98 in the context I used it in and it would still make perfect sense.
    Then why did they extend support until 2006 for 9x if they had concluded?

    It is because most people still use 9x.

    That is also why they recently stated they would only patch ie for XP because they are trying to get people off 9x.
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    Originally Posted by bazooka
    Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    That's interesting considering Microsoft's support for Win98 has all but concluded. I don't know if there are any stats to back that up. Whether that is true or not is a semantic though. You could interchange WinXP with Win98 in the context I used it in and it would still make perfect sense.
    Then why did they extend support until 2006 for 9x if they had concluded?

    It is because most people still use 9x.

    That is also why they recently stated they would only patch ie for XP because they are trying to get people off 9x.
    Hello,

    I think it's also because ie 6 is only for 2000 and up if I remember correctly. I think ie 5.5 was the last for the 9x. I have 2000 and fortunately haven't had any serious issues in the several months I've used it .

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    You can still manually install IE6 on Win9x machines though. As I said, whether 9x or win2000+ is the most used is just a semantic in this case.
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    Well you also will not be able to patch ie on 2000.

    You will be forced to use alternative browsers or upgrade to XP.

    https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1051665#1051665
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  12. MSIE 6 definitely installs on Win 98 - I've done it many times....
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    OK I am glad to see (well not glad) that I am not alone. This is called the DSO Exploit. I have gone to Firefox and now it is all good. Getting rid of this problem however has been a nightmare. This link may help you guys.
    http://www.pchell.com/support/dsoexploit.shtml
    This is a nasty little booger. This is why I posted. This CAN cause bad burns due to so much activity going on underneath your pretty little desktop. I DO NOT use IE right now. The IE Critical update DOES NOT work. Also it should be noted that this exploit can be used to do far more damage than what it was made for.
    Hope this helps that one guy going CRAZY. Yesterday that guy was me. lol

    BTW... I run Win XP Corp. IE 6 and adaware will not help you with this. Hunting down every process this creates in safe mode will take way longer than a format and fresh install. Also if you do not understand the registry you can not fix it most likely. MSCONFIG will NOT work also.
    Here is how I killed it.
    I used the dso tool to close the hole
    killed the running process's
    killed the start up in MSCONFIG and as I hit the OK button I pulled the plug on the machine before the crap added itself back to start up, booted to safe mode, ran ad aware personal. There still were a few items so I formatted. Those few items seemed fairly harmless as long as I did NOT open IE which triggers the spyware to crank up and cause hell again!
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    wow I almost forgot.. the sign that you have this is getting the about:blank start page or a search page and no matter what you do changing back to your original page does not seem to work.
    If I am incorrect about any info here feel free to correct me as I am sure some people may not want to format. I am just a clean machine freak. I need my system running 100% all the time with NO interuptions. I find formatting once a month helps me the most lol. Also this has helped me fix my ATI AIW drivers problem. Thanks to softmod.
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    I only surf the net with one machine. It has a 4.3 GB hard drive and a virgin install of XP Pro that has been updated with all my drivers, settings and my bookmarks/favorites. Once it starts flipping from all the spyware/malware/viruses/whatever I just pop my Ghost restore image CD in the CD-ROM drive, reboot and a couple minutes later -- presto! All better!
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    Originally Posted by Flaystus
    Name one unique feature MS has added to IE.
    What about the Browser Claw?

    (Man, I hope I'm not the only one who's seen that)
    Nothing can stop me now, 'cause I don't care anymore.
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    Just drop it, let people use what they want.

    and what's a browser claw?
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    All your browser are belong to us.
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