Which capture program to buy or use?

[LSchafroth]

I currently own IuVCR but am not able to capture anything of length without sync issues. Tech support is telling me it's my problem.

What are some other good capture programs that use WDM drivers and allow you to use custom capture resolutions and HAVE tech support?

Thanks!!

LS

[thecoalman]

I hate to say it but they are probably right. I've seen virtualdub and virtualVCR reccommended before.

[LSchafroth]

I hate to say it but they are probably right. I've seen virtualdub and virtualVCR reccommended before.

I would agree if none of the capture programs worked. Mainconcept's capture utility captures with perfect sync even on a 2-3 hour long tape. However it does not let me adjust the capture resolution.

I was hoping to find acapture program with custom resolution settings that can keep sync. If you read LordSmurf's site it even states most problems with IuVCR is sync issues.

LS

[pchan]

If your capture card is BT878 based, then AVI_IO and PICVideo MJPEC codec(set to 19) will fix your problem.

[DaveS]

I currently own IuVCR but am not able to capture anything of length without sync issues. Tech support is telling me it's my problem.

What are some other good capture programs that use WDM drivers and allow you to use custom capture resolutions and HAVE tech support?

Thanks!!

LS

try playing w/ the master stream checkbox, if you haven't. This can sometimes cause a little bit of issue w/ the framerate, but it would be worth trying before you spend on another s/w. Try to set the video as the master stream and then the audio..do your sync issues go away?

[SatStorm]

Did you read the Sticky: Why does your system drop frames?

Mainconcept drop frames when audio goes out of synch. This is possible only on this program (from what I know...)

[LSchafroth]

Did you read the Sticky: Why does your system drop frames?

Mainconcept drop frames when audio goes out of synch. This is possible only on this program (from what I know...)

So far none of the capture apps I've used report any dropped frames. MC did get way out of sync last night so it appears to be random.

I have a cheap Soubdblaster PCI card. Would that be the issue? I've never had any issues with this card. it has it's own IRQ and the capture card has it's own IRQ so no IRQ sharing invloved.

I saw the post above about AVI_IO with a BT8x8 chipset so I will try that.

Thanks!!

LS

[LSchafroth]

If your capture card is BT878 based, then AVI_IO and PICVideo MJPEC codec(set to 19) will fix your problem.

OK, I installed AVI_IO and it will not let me use a custom size capture resolution and it only have MPEG4 adn Uncompressed as compression formats. Huffy and PicVideo are not an option.

Any ideas?

LS

[pchan]

@ LSchafroth,

You have to install the codec. Either Huffy or PICVideo is fine.

Edit : I capture max at 768x576, RGB24 and set PICVideo MJPEC quality at 19.

[SatStorm]

Soundblaster on a AMD/VIA combo have issues...

If I remember correct, you have to set Sounblaster on the 3rd PCI slot to make it "work" correct on a VIA mobo.

[pchan]

I used to have Xp2100+, ABIT KG7 Lite (VIA chipset) and Soundblaster Live. No prob !

EDIT : Abit Va10 mobo sucks big time !

[SatStorm]

I also use to have an MSI VIA based motherboard, on a Athlon xp 1700 and have no issues myself.

But I read a lot about AMD / VIA issues when you use Soundblaster, so I have to mention it!

[LSchafroth]

@ LSchafroth,

You have to install the codec. Either Huffy or PICVideo is fine.

Edit : I capture max at 768x576, RGB24 and set PICVideo MJPEC quality at 19.

The codecs have been installed for about 1 year. Do I have to do it again?

LS

[LSchafroth]

Soundblaster on a AMD/VIA combo have issues...

If I remember correct, you have to set Sounblaster on the 3rd PCI slot to make it "work" correct on a VIA mobo.

I think I remember that. It's been a long time since I put this together. I will try that and see if IuVCR behaves better. AVI_IO doesn't see any of my codecs so I need to fall back to something else.

Thanks!

LS

[pchan]

You can see the AVI_IO codec setting at Video Setting > Compression.



Click the drop down button and you will see the list installed codec.

[LSchafroth]

You can see the AVI_IO codec setting at Video Setting > Compression.



Click the drop down button and you will see the list installed codec.

That is where I see MS MPEG4 and uncompressed only.

LS

[pchan]

@ LSchafroth
Then I am very sure that those codecs that you installed a year ago are gone !

[LSchafroth]

@ LSchafroth
Then I am very sure that those codecs that you installed a year ago are gone !

Explain to me why they work in IuVCR and Mainconcept Capture then?

LS

[SatStorm]

Hmm... VFM uninstalled and wdm are still installed?

[LSchafroth]

Hmm... VFM uninstalled and wdm are still installed?

I am using the latest WDM drivers from Pinnacle right now. I've never found VFW drivers for this card for XP.

If I force it to use the version 4.02 VFW drivers for Windows 2K would AVI_IO see the correct codecs? Would I need to reinstall the codecs after the new drivers?

LS

[The_Doman]

You could try to install the BTWINCAP drivers, they are VFW compatible.
I am using that now with AVI_IO and my Pinnacle PCTV card using windows XP.

AVI_IO is the only program which gives me perfekt audio and can split the files without drops, even after hours of captures.
I tried the others, including the IUVCR. They all have audio sync issue's or they miss frames when splitting the captures.

[pchan]

I am using the same driver version 5.3.8 with WinXp and it's working fine.

[LSchafroth]

You could try to install the BTWINCAP drivers, they are VFW compatible.
I am using that now with AVI_IO and my Pinnacle PCTV card using windows XP.

I did not realize they were VFW compatible. Very cool.

I will give that a shot tonight.

Thanks everyone!

LS

PS Been working with AVI_IO author and he is VERY nice adn helpful.

[LSchafroth]

I installed the latest BTWincap drivers and DScalers.

I cannot use my Pinnacle tuner sfotware but the picture Dscaler puts out is fantastic!

AVI_IO seems quite sluggish when using it with these drivers. Selecting some menu items can take up to 2 minutes to respond. Once they do it seems fine.

I captured 45 minutes of video and the audio was synced perfectly. It failed after creating 2 1/2 4Gb files.

The sound is synced fine, but portions of the video are jumpy. Soem of them are like it rewinds a few frames then fastforwards then falls back to where it was then is fine. Very strange. It seems sluggish so I assume that is the VFW wrapper portion?

Is there a way to fix the video now? I'm getting closer!

LS

[pchan]

Go to your Device Manager and check your IDE controllers and see if the transfer mode is set to DMA if available.

[The_Doman]

I installed the latest BTWincap drivers and DScalers.

I cannot use my Pinnacle tuner sfotware.
I captured 45 minutes of video and the audio was synced perfectly. It failed after creating 2 1/2 4Gb files.

The sound is synced fine, but portions of the video are jumpy. Soem of them are like it rewinds a few frames then fastforwards then falls back to where it was then is fine. Very strange. It seems sluggish so I assume that is the VFW wrapper portion?
LS

Those jumpy parts in the video could be due to dropouts or signal loss from the video tape. Depending on the codec used, you can get those effects. Best codec to use is the PICVIDEO. You should test it with a good source like the tuner signal of a VCR and see if it works ok. (also will give much better results then the internal tuner of the pinnacle card)

[LSchafroth]

Those jumpy parts in the video could be due to dropouts or signal loss from the video tape. Depending on the codec used, you can get those effects. Best codec to use is the PICVIDEO. You should test it with a good source like the tuner signal of a VCR and see if it works ok. (also will give much better results then the internal tuner of the pinnacle card)

Those same parts are smooth in IuVCR, but maybe they are the cause of the sync issues with IuVCR. I'll try another tape to compare too.

I'm using teh composite in ports from my Camera. It has no S-Video.

LS

[sacajaweeda]

I bought IuVCR a while ago and had sync issues with it as well. I solved my sync issues by using VirtualVCR with the BT Wincap drivers and using the resample audio dynamically option in VirtualVCR's settings. Depending on your hardware you may or may not have an audio sync problem, but if you DO have one it's NOT going to be a progressive sync issue, and you can easily fix it using a delay offset for the audio.

HTH

[LSchafroth]

I bought IuVCR a while ago and had sync issues with it as well. I solved my sync issues by using VirtualVCR with the BT Wincap drivers and using the resample audio dynamically option in VirtualVCR's settings. Depending on your hardware you may or may not have an audio sync problem, but if you DO have one it's NOT going to be a progressive sync issue, and you can easily fix it using a delay offset for the audio.

HTH

I will try AVI_IO again with some different settings to give it more priority. I like the reviews of VirtualVCR and it supports WDM drivers. I will give that a try tonight.

Thanks for all the help everyone!!

LS

[LSchafroth]

I bought IuVCR a while ago and had sync issues with it as well. I solved my sync issues by using VirtualVCR with the BT Wincap drivers and using the resample audio dynamically option in VirtualVCR's settings. Depending on your hardware you may or may not have an audio sync problem, but if you DO have one it's NOT going to be a progressive sync issue, and you can easily fix it using a delay offset for the audio.

HTH

I am using VirtualVCR and it has sync isues as well. It is much better then IuVCR. I think the cause of the sync issues is the fact that it is home videos. Some transitions from one filming to the next are shakey. I wonder if it loses sync during that transision. I noticed the first film was perfectly in sync. The next one after a noisy switch to the next footage was out of sync. I'm now capturing each section seperatly and it's fine.

I'm back to the Pinnacle drivers. The BTWincap drivers caused jerky and ghosty video.

LS