How long does Smartripper take?

[Will Hay Old]

I've been using CladDVD, DVD2Avi and TMPGenc for ripping but want to give DVDx a chance, but don't want to wear out my DVD drive. I plan to use smartripper first, then DVDx for all the rest of the operation.
How long does smartripper take for a typical 2hr DVD (I have a Pioneer x16 and CladDVD would normally take no more than 2hrs) and is it comparable with CladDVD?
Many thanks,
Will

[pinoy2201]

Damn it takes you 2 hours to rip a DVD with cladDVD it takes me less then 30 to rip with cladDVD....with samrtripper it will take no more than 25 minutes with a 16x drive but it will take longer if you dont have DMA mode on for your hardrive and DVD-drive

[Will Hay Old]

Maybe I was a little persimistic but certainly more than an hour for 120mins. I'l lcheck on the DMA, thanks.
What's your procedure, do you ise smart and DVDx?
Or what?
AMD 800, 512mb ram, IMB 7200rpm 75GXP (?) hdd, Pioneer x16 dvd.
Thanks,
W.

[Sefy]

Will Hay, the length of the movie isn't very relevent in the ripping process, i've been ripping Superman - Special Edition (I own it) and that's 154min movie (way longer then 2 hours!) and it takes me about 16min to rip it (Pioneer 16x DVD), and I use Smart Ripper (you can see by my guide how long exactly).

So what I would suggest for you to do is the following checks:
1) DMA and Sync enabled on your DVD and HDD
2) Make sure DVD is Master on the Secondary IDE
3) Check ASPI Layer, make sure it is latest and updated
4) Check IDE Drivers for your mainboard, use latest VIA

[Greg12]

How many IDE's do Dell Inspirions 8100's have?

I think i only have one.

also on my ide hard drive controller i have DMA but sync is grayed out and i can't check the box.

i rip at 1.5-3.2x via DVD Decrypter and i have a slave 8x dvd rom.

[Will Hay Old]

Thanks Sefy.
I'm gonna' try a movie now I know should normally take at least an hour.
Neither dvd nor hdd was dma enabled.
Watch this space!
Will
BTW, What's the procedure for ripping with smartripper so that DVDx picks up the correct file type, do I need to follow a specific pattern or just 'rip movie'.
Perhaps that ain't very clear but DVDx won't pick up VOB files created with CLadDVD, so can I run into similar problems with smartripper?
Thanks.
W.

[pinoy2201]

You need to copy the ifo file with smartrippr this option shuld be already selected by defult but u should really use DVD Decrypter for Flask and DVDx

[Will Hay Old]

Thanks.
smart is on-going now - 7mins already and projected 12mins more so that's a MASSIVE improvement on my 60mins+ with CladDVD, thanks guys.
Copy IFO File *is* selected so that should be fine for DVDx yes?
I really want to give DVDx a try because unlike TMPGEnc it automatically splits the file into two, ie setting the maximum file sizxe at 695mb means I don't have to go thru' the process twice (like I do with TMPGEnc insofar as specifying 'sorce range'.
Okay, so I don't get to split it *exactly* where I want to but it a damn sight easier than doing the whole process twice!
W.

[Will Hay Old]

Hi guys, one other thing...
When ripping widescreen and using TMPGEnc I have the facility to crop those black bars top and bottom.
Can this be done in DVDx?
I've read something about incorporating TMPGenc within DVDx but to be perfectly honest don't understand it! )
Will

[TPW]

When you pick the source range just do a bath encode in TMPEGEnc and it'll do the rest I don't like DVDx's quality so i still prefer TMPGEnc

[Will Hay Old]

Hello, and thanks.
I have great, stunng results with TMPGEnc agreed, but the whole process take sso darm long!
I'm trying to cut down on the time I spend creating my VCD's so...
If I stick witH TMPGEnc, can I go from Smartripper straight to TMPGEnc or do I stil have to use something like DVD2Avi?
I'd like my 3 stage process (CladDVD, DVD2Avi and TMPGEnc) stripping down to a 2 stage process, or is that asking too much?
Many thanks,
W.

[pinoy2201]

nope you must use the DVD2AVI

[Sefy]

Will Hay, I'm glad to hear the speed has increased, although I would recommand you use either Smart Ripper or DVD Decryptor, I believe those two are the best currently available, i'm not a big fan of CladMdec or CladDVD, not many options on those two.

As for cutting down the process, you could rip directly from the DVD using DVDx and I believe also with Flask, however it is not recommanded, as a PC Technician I can tell you i've seen DVD drives that were overheated they no longer functioned, so I don't think you should.

As for going to a two step process, you can do a ripping and use DVDx / Flask for encoding, although having DVD2AVI and using TMPGEnc I believe is currently the best method and give you the most options.

[CrazyMike]

"it takes me about 16min to rip it (Pioneer 16x DVD), and I use Smart Ripper (you can see by my guide how long exactly"
Yeah about the same with me too, maybe less, and I've a 16x pioneer too Great Dvd and it was the cheapest I could get . By the way SEfy do you use UDMA 66 cables for your Pionner. I wanted to know if its worth, I'm using UDMA 33 cables and I'm thinking if it worth buying the UDMA 66 cables, since Pioneer suports UDMA 66, but it costs about 15 USD (it may seem a low price but its still 20% of the total cost of my dvd player).
I also think that Smart Ripper is the best I use 2.39 version but I sometimes get a problem of having the drive locked, but I play the movie with powerdvd and then smartrip again and the problem disappears, isn't there anyway to include a feature in smartrip that alows this

[sracer]

DVDx shows a lot of promise, but it is quite buggy with NTSC discs, and I could never get a rip to completely have the audio sync'ed nor the quality up to the level I achieve with SmartRipper/DVD2AVI/TMPGENC.

[Sefy]

CrazyMike, i'm using 80wire Cable (UDMA66) on my Pioneer, I did not need to buy them since they came with my mainboard, and as a PC Technician, I got access to them, although I do know they cost pretty much, but I think it's worth it, especialy if you have two devices conected on the same IDE channel.

By the way, i'm presuming you didn't Flask your DVD drive yet, so I suggest you flash it to a Region Free firmware as soon as possible.

sracer, I agree with you quite alot on DVDx, it shows alot of promise, but recently i've heard that you require some sort of registration/donation to make it work, which is becoming a bit of annoying to alot of people, so it is going to be very quickly an annoying program.

[bendito_gabriel]

Mi machines is:
PIII 450Mhz
Ram 64Mb
Video:8Mb
HDD:6.4Gb

I will get the DVD pioneer 16x, Geforce 2, 20Gb of HDD.

1.Is necesary to change my 8Mb video, if i want best results in my ripped videos?
2.I have to change something more or add something?
3.i want to get the most near dvd quality in my ripped videos, what i need (hardware/software)

[Sefy]

For DVD ripping I believe the only two things you might want to change would be a bigger HDD, doesn't have to be 7200rpm, can be 5400rpm, just make it bigger, like 40gb would be nice, and a faster CPU would extremly help the encoding, or it will take you like over 8 hours to maybe even 12 hours for encoding an entire movie.

[CrazyMike]

Thanks sefy, my motherboard also came with a UDMA 66 cable but I'm using it with my hdd of course I could be sharing this with the dvd has slave but this would just make the perfomance a lot worst. I prefered to share the dvd with my cd-rom on the secundary ide, since I'm not gonna use both at the same time I think it wont reduce my speed a lot
Your are right I haven't flashed the dvd-rom but since I only have region 2 dvd's I think it wont be important at least for now and I don't have a floppy disk drive so if it requires to boot up with a floppy disk, wich probably will I wont be able to do that

About your reply to bendito_gabriel I agree with you but right now with my 256 DDR 266 CAS 2 and Ahtlon 1.4 at 1533 and my IBM 45 GB UDMA 100 7200 rpm drive it takes with dvdx a little longer tham 12 hours to compress a 2 hour movie but this is not the methode I use, right now I've been using dvd2svcd witch it's really impressive, it rips the dvd ( I don't use this prefer smartrip), rips subtiles, converts audio and video and mixes it, auto selects bitrate acording to the desisred number of cd's (ex. 1 74m cd, 2 80m cd ...) even creates an image file, with chapters and menus, to record with any software that suports bin, and finaly its one of the fiew programs where the shutdown really works And all this without human intervention. I really think you can't beat that besides the quality is really great to covert a 2hour movie with CCE 2.50 5 passes it takes on my Pc and with Linear quantitizer scale, progressive frames,upper field first and zigzag scaning order and with the conversion from 16:9 to 4:3 using also the CCE 2.62 Smooth CG matrix it takes about 10-12 hours, with a speed of about 1.00. I really advice this one, the only problem is CCE it costs about 4000 USD

[Will Hay Old]

Hello again.
Can someone tell me the optimum setup for my configuration, with regards slave and master etc.
I have ibm 30gb deskstar hdd, pioneer x16 dvd and a ricoh cd-rw.
Also, should I enable dma on both my dvd and hdd?
I get a message saying this may affect my hardware and may not be suported.
Can I damage my hardware by selecting dma?
I understand you shouldn't select dma for cd-writers, is this correct?
Many thanks,
Will

[Will Hay Old]

One thing I forgot to mention:
When I tried it last week (selecting dma for both my dvd and hard drive), smartripper was super-fast but when I used TMPGEnc it crashed just before it finished, which was only remedied by un checking dma on my hard drive.
Was this a one off or related do you think?
Thanks,
Will

[Sefy]

Will Hay, make your DVD a master on the secondary IDE and your CDRW a slave on the secondary IDE, and your HDD a Master on the Primary IDE.

You should enable DMA on your DVD and CDRW and also enable the Sync Transfer, as for your IDE, it most support UDMA or it will cause problems.

Although I don't see how TMPGEnc is related to a UDMA on the HDD, the two just don't match up in my book.

[Will Hay Old]

Many thanks Sefy, will let you know how I go on )
Will

[Will Hay Old]

What the hell is with that blue faced thing!!!!!!!

[Sefy]

Propably because you did a combination of two charcters and the resulting was the smily

[pinoy2201]

i hate when that happens....then you have to edit your post...i hate when that happens