Star Trek dying??????

[SatStorm]

The digital effects were amazing, but those hooked on the B5 story arc, don't care about the FX. It was about the amazing story the whole interest!
Neither the dialogue was good on B5 exactly (now which I understand english better, I realise what a treker once told me: "B5 dialogue is sometimes corny...". There are dialogues really stupid at that series, something you don't realise when you are reading translated subtitles. Maybe that explains why Babylon 5 was more popular and well known outside USA at first.
B5 had a wonderfull story, much action, polics and it wasn't P.C. at any ******* way.

It was a series WAY ahead of it's time but unfortunatelly, never gain the popularity it deserved it. BUT: Latest DVD sales showed that it has a great fan base and some movies / series are planned for the near future.

The truth is that STos was the modern start of this gentre and Babylon 5 was what continue it to the next level. The later Treks simply continued the STos tradition and the elements it had, without presenting something new. Only DS9 was an exception, at the last 3 seasons. But those seasons WAS a B5 spinoff. A good one, a great one, but: A spinoff...

A great experiment tried to lead SciFi a step beyond was farscape. So many ideas there, great direction, fast scenes....
But you never watch an episode twice. With B5 you need to watch each episode 3 times to realise what happened!!!

[northcat_8]

Hello,

Northcat - Drop it, please.

Kevin

I was talking to Tommyknocker, not you, so look for my Avatar on the left and don't read what I write.

[gitreel]

[yoda313]

Hello,

look for my Avatar on the left and don't read what I write.

Good advice, I should have done that from the beginning!

Kevin

[northcat_8]

Hello,

look for my Avatar on the left and don't read what I write.

Good advice, I should have done that from the beginning!

Kevin

Yes, you should have. Try not to forget again.

[yoda313]

Hello,

Anyone know when the new season of Enterprise starts??? I know I said I don't like it but I'm curious how they're going to get themselves out of that stupid time dimension mess up they got into.

Kevin

[Tommyknocker]

I never saw a trekker teach their children to play Star Trek, so they may have a shot at the National Star Trek League. I never saw a Star Trek team in virtually every public school in the Nation. I never heard the phrase, "be like Mr Spock". I never saw Star Trek gobble up the National/International headlines every freakin' January.

That's because none of the "trekkies" <which is the proper spelling> have kids. They are too busy being "cool" at their conventions and hanging out at the local trekkie hub. For goodness sake, you have to find a female to reproduce with before you can teach YOUR kids anything. Going where no man has gone before, should be "going where no trekkie has gone before" and the answer would be "between a woman's legs".

I know you are only tryin' to get at Yoda313's goat, so to speak, but I think he gets even more wired when I egg him on. So, Master Yoda313, you go, boy!!!

I know what I wrote in the small text at the bottom of the post, and I know what wording I used. Now maybe I said it like that because I really wanted you to back off, or maybe I worded it like that because I know you Tommyknocker, and knew you wouldn't be able to resist responding....I'll let you think about that.

Oh and Tommyknocker....dude, get some black friends but don't say "you go, boy" around them...unless you are female...if you are male that just sounds gay and they will beat your ass for it.

Look, Teach, I always had friends as far back as I could remember. I did not get my first white friends until I left home for college to Ann Arbor. Trust me Teach, we do say, "you go boy" to each other, and if I ever catch you calling me gay in person, I'll have to sodomize you wityh my eleven and a half. Don't ever imagine you know me. You'll find yourself bitterly disappointed. I have to admit, when a math teacher tried to tell me how to be cool, I got scared, could my cool be that far gone? Then I breathed a sigh of relief as I considered the source...

[northcat_8]

Tommyknocker -

"You go boy" is just plain gay. I opened your post up to my classroom with 18 black male students in it ages 16-19 and 18 of them said that was just gay...matter of fact the exact quote from one student was: "is he a ******"...so maybe you're just out of the ******* loop.

Since you obviously can't read my signature TK...



and no worriez TK, anything I say or think online or elsewhere I would say to you or anyone else in person...please don't try to be a computer tough guy and threaten me over the internet...that's pretty lame.

You knew you didn't like me before you butted into my teasing of yoda, maybe you should have just minded your own ******* business.

[Tommyknocker]

So you surf the 'Net when you should be teaching math. And Bill Cosby's blaming the parents. Go figure.

Don't worry, I don't dislike you. I have no feeling for you one way or another.

[northcat_8]

love you too TK.

I'm not worried TK. I post between classes and at lunch time. Not that I feel the need to defend my self to you but right now for example we are having a school wide video shown because a local girl who had been kidnapped was found last night...and has been cause for great concern among our students. Besides that, I don't "surf" but I do have a videohelp window open all day.

In any event, I'm done with this conversation before I end up carded. You and I don't get along, we knew that before this little exchange, but it does feel nice to refresh the distain every once in a while.

[flaninacupboard]

The digital effects were amazing, but those hooked on the B5 story arc, don't care about the FX. It was about the amazing story the whole interest!
Neither the dialogue was good on B5 exactly (now which I understand english better, I realise what a treker once told me: "B5 dialogue is sometimes corny...". There are dialogues really stupid at that series, something you don't realise when you are reading translated subtitles. Maybe that explains why Babylon 5 was more popular and well known outside USA at first.
B5 had a wonderfull story, much action, polics and it wasn't P.C. at any ******* way.

It was a series WAY ahead of it's time but unfortunatelly, never gain the popularity it deserved it. BUT: Latest DVD sales showed that it has a great fan base and some movies / series are planned for the near future.

The truth is that STos was the modern start of this gentre and Babylon 5 was what continue it to the next level. The later Treks simply continued the STos tradition and the elements it had, without presenting something new. Only DS9 was an exception, at the last 3 seasons. But those seasons WAS a B5 spinoff. A good one, a great one, but: A spinoff...

A great experiment tried to lead SciFi a step beyond was farscape. So many ideas there, great direction, fast scenes....
But you never watch an episode twice. With B5 you need to watch each episode 3 times to realise what happened!!!

It would be nice to see another series with the scope of B5, if yuo wrote it in book form the story would be many volumes, even if you missed all the "trivial" events. Sadly i don't think a studio or network will trump up the cash and give it time to evolve.
Yes, the B5 dialogue is sometimes cheesy, but people are sometimes cheesy. i like the light humour in it too - like when garibaldi and sheridan hide their breakfast to make ivannova think she slept through the meal.

I liked Farscape - it was nice to see a sci-fi universe with no real science. there was no way john could understand the technology, so we never had to listen to
"Captain, the dylithium matrix is flooded with gamma-goozer rays. so we just need to lock the stabalizorama to the nth degree..."
"...hydrochloric gear shift is downloading some kind of chocolate doh-doh waves!"
and i liked the loneliness of John. not like silly voyager where there's a whole ship of them and they're on the way home, john doesn't even know what direction to go. Battlestar galactica was good in this respect - it initially had nothing to do with earth. it'd be nice to see something like that again, a universe nothing to do with earth - in fact, like star wars "long time ago..." and all that.

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[yoda313]

Hello,

it'd be nice to see something like that again, a universe nothing to do with earth - in fact, like star wars "long time ago..." and all that.

You know I always get a little chuckle out of it when people call Star Wars "futuristic". It's supposed to be in the PAST!!!! Oh well, some people just don't read title screens.

Kevin