DVD movie Widescreen to FullScreen

[d_unbeliever]

My friend bought a DVD movie but when he watched it in his TV it has a Black Space above and below it. I think it is in WideScreen format...
His DVD player and TV does not support WideScreen format, so he wants me to back up his movie for him so the black space above and below will disappear...he wants it to convert it to VCD because he said it's cheaper.

is it possible to resize it and be able to remove the black space above and below the movie picture? i think i need to convert it to Full screen... Any software i can use?

[Dr_Layne]

Your freind will be disapointed to learn that almost all dvd's are released in widescreen. This doesn't mean you need a widescreen TV. It's done so you can view the movie in the same aspect ratio the director wanted you to see it in. That's why movie screens wide and not the shape of a TV screen. Most full screen movies are created by zooming into certain action on the screen and you do not see the whole picture. To answer your question, yes you can use tmpgenc to crop and resize the image.

Steve

[Shocker Milwaukee]

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[johns0]

Rip with DVDDecrypter,frameserve with dvd2avi and load the d2v into tmpgenc and go to settings/advanced/clip frame and choose no margin(keep aspect ratio).

[ZippyP.]

You cannot do home made Pan 'n Scan and you will lose about 1/3 of the picture, it will look like crap. Either that or you can stretch the picture to fit which distorts the image. Encode it as-is (full screen - keep aspect ratio) and use the zoom function on your player if you want to reduce the borders.

This question pops up quite regular on the forum and it makes the videophiles on this forum do this...

[d_unbeliever]

Rip with DVDDecrypter,frameserve with dvd2avi and load the d2v into tmpgenc and go to settings/advanced/clip frame and choose no margin(keep aspect ratio).

In Tmpenc, i used no margin(keep aspect ration) but the black space above and below is still there...

can i use center custom size 352 X 394 instead?
that's the setting where i can see the whole movie picture in the preview without the space below and above though its not anymore aspect ratio...

will it mess up my video?

[d_unbeliever]

i made a search about this topic and i've seen a few post with same question...

zippyP., you got same response too.

i'm just trying to see if other people have other new ideas about this...

[johns0]

Use the center(custom size) and adjust both horizontal and vertical settings to bring the picture to the proper ratio.The view is different when you are setting the size in arrange setting screen,go back to see the proper size in the encode preview mode.

[Bob W]

The last two months or so I have been replacing my pan and scan (full screen) DVD's with the wide screen versions. The old disks I give to my sisters.

[adam]

All I can say is that this is a completely futile process. Pan and Scan conversions ruin the movie enough as it is. Doing a non P&S conversion to FS from a DVD source will result in many unwatchable scenes. Picture a typically framed conversation between two individuals. You've got person one on left frame and person 2 on right frame. When converting to FS via a P&S scan conversion, the editor would insert cuts between the two. Its nothing like what the director shot, but at least you see who is doing the talking. By simply cropping the sides, as you will be doing to remove the letterboxing, then you will end up with a conversation where none of the individuals is on the screen at all. You'd hear their voices while staring at a tree or something the whole time.

Anyway, to save you and your friend the trouble. You can do EXACTLY what you are asking by simply using the zoom function on your player or by playing with the various display modes. Selecting the Pan and Scan option on the player will usually zoom into the picture just about enough to remove most or all of the letterboxing.

I strongly recommend just watching the widescreen version though. Its the way it was shot, and the way it was intended to be watched. If you want to make the letterboxing go away then simply turn off the lights.

[johns0]

I agree with adam,i just give tips on how to make full screen out of wide screen in the hopes that when they see the results that they will change there mind on converting,most of the time people dont listen when you tell them what will happen,seeing is believing.

[Shocker Milwaukee]

adam the Cyber Janitor said:

All I can say is that this is a completely futile process. Pan and Scan conversions ruin the movie enough as it is.

Can't agree more. Enough said. Yer dummin'

[d_unbeliever]

tnx guys for the advice...yup i've read it that we are talking of poor quality ouput here. i just need to make it full screen. it will be my friends discretion if he likes the ouput or not. he wants it, so he can have it...just trying to fulfill a friend's wish.

[adam]

Yeah I can understand that, I just mean that its futile to do this conversion because your dvd player can do it on the fly. The only reason to manually do the conversion would be if you wanted to do a proper pan and scan conversion, which really can't be done effectively with a DVD source. You can't open the matte to do effective panning and the resolution is way to low do to effective scanning.

[d_unbeliever]

i converted a movie from widescreen to fullscreen... and im very satisfied with the result and my friend too...he even treated me with a bottle of beer :P....took the advice of johns0...

the result was good for me, all the actors are centered ...but it's a little bit dark...

do you know any program i can use to adjust the brightness of my mpeg1? is it virtual dub?

[yoda313]

Hello,

D_unbeliever - I have a question, was the movie in 1.85:1 aspect ratio?

If it was than making a full screen of it won't lose that much.

Just be warned again if you try a 2.35:1 widescreen movie (like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, etc..) it may not turn out as well.

I'm glad you got a test run to work. Just be prepared for some possible problems down the road.

Kevin

---The 2.35:1 is the REALLY WIDE movie format. All the big action movies use it---

[d_unbeliever]

i used this center custom size 352 X 394 in tmpgenc...maybe ill try to stick with converting it to VCD so cost of my experimention will be cheaper

[Shudder]

Wow, I can't believe people like that still exist.

www.widescreen.org

Here's what you should do: Leave the DVD as is, tell your friend to just use ZOOM on his DVD player. It's obvious he doesn't care about the quality of the movie (going to VCD) or the integrity of the scene (likes chopping off 45% of the picture) so it'll work out every time for the sorry guy.

[Invader Bugs]

agh, fullscreen is evil, i hate it. i especially ahte the people who think your getting more with fullscreen because of the fact that there is no empty space, and they call it "FULLscreen". even when i buy dvds, in the store, i just completely ignore the fullscreen dvds, i go right for the widescreen. when i watch it, i leave it alone, 4:3 Letterbox, the only time i enhance the picture for widescreen tvs, is when i use my portable dvd player, with the built in 16:9 screen. i try to avoid fullscreen as often as possible

[adam]

Alot of people are going to be real pissed when they upgrade to a widescreen tv, or when widescreen tv's become mandatory (when all broadcasts go digital, as now required by law, I can really see this happening in the future). They bought the FS version to avoid having to look at black bars, and now they are going to have huge black bars on each side. Then it will dawn on them, they took a rectangular image, cut it into a square, and then played it on a rectangular screen.

[andkiich]

If the DVD comes in FULLSCREEN commercially, just go out and buy that one. It will save you a ton of headache.

[smearbrick1]

One time I test drove a KIA just to get my free copy of Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring. When it came in the mail, it was fullscreen. I never even unwrapped it, I just sold it to a friend from work for like $5.00. It wasn't even worth opening to watch. Just looking at a fullscreen dvd in a store makes me sort of ill.

I hate when my wife goes to Blockbuster to rent movies (what else would she be doing there?) and doesn't pay attention to the fullscreen/widescreen. 7 out of 10 times she'll return home with the fullscreen version.

[d_unbeliever]

i'm just doing it for learning...i want to try everything...do this do that...anything possible with videos and cd's...

[lazyturbo]

Is it possible to watch a widescreen DVD, in fullscreen, using PowerDVD. Is there some setting I just have to change in the player?

[guns1inger]

Select Fullscreen from the right click menu. When you have done this, right-click again and the Pan $ Scan option will now be available to you. Select the source AR, and Power DVD will do the rest.

And may God have mercy on your soul.

[lazyturbo]

I did watch you said and played it in full-screen. But when I right click, there isn't a "Pan $ Scan" option.

Btw, I'm using PowerDVD version 4.0

[guns1inger]

I'm running 5 - things must have changed.

[LisaB]

Tell your friend to get a bigger TV, or to sit closer to the TV.

Then, when some widescreen content is showing on the screen, or he plays a widescreen DVD, he can jump up, grab the roll of duct tape, and tape several strips along the top and bottom of his screen, thus avoiding the excrutiating pain that comes from viewing the "evil black stuff".

Seriously, though, why are there people who get freaked out by a picture that doesn't fill their TV screen? Your friend is almost as silly as the people who buy widescreen TV's for the same reason...

In the U.S., widescreen TV's are still ridiculously overpriced, and you can usually find a 4:3 TV, OF THE SAME WIDTH, for equal or lower price. If the 4:3 TV has the same width, then it will display widescreen content with exactly the same size as the widescreen TV....plus, the 4:3 TV will display fullscreen content with a LARGER size than the widescreen TV.

The bottom line when you are buying a TV - if you have a choice between widescreen and fullscreen (with equal width), then fullscreen is the better choice.

[SingSing]

A simple solution : get a DVD player with 1.5x zoom.

Samsung's DVD players with EZview, and JVC players like NV312 both have 1.5x true mpeg zoom. ( Not just making bigger pixels ).

These players cost $69.00, and can play 2:35:1 as enhance widescreen, or 16:9 as fullscreen.

You have to look really hard on a large screen TV, to tell the picture is zoomed. I assumed You can't tell the different on a 32" or less TV.

[smearbrick1]

The bottom line when you are buying a TV - if you have a choice between widescreen and fullscreen (with equal width), then fullscreen is the better choice.

Are you sure this is such a great idea? I mean, aren't all TVs going to be widescreen HD?