Why is it taking so long

[90blackcrx]

If I download a movie from the net and use nero to burn it, it takes about 16 hours. Here are my pc and burner specs. I am pretty sure my speed is max and dma is checked, anyone else ?

lite on 832s
Write Speed: 8X DVD+R, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD+RW, 4X DVD-RW, 2.4X DVD+R9, 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW
Read Speed: 40X CD-ROM, 12X DVD-ROM
Interface: ATAPI / E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB
OS Support: Windows 98 / NT 4.0 / ME / 2000 / XP
Features: Supported Double Layer DVD+R9 Recording Function. SMART-BURN avoiding Buffer UnderRun Error. SMART-X function. VAS system reduce vibration and noise.
Packaging: OEM (Software included: Nero and PowerDVD 5)

My pc
I have a 1.1 ghz processor, amd athlon.

[gitreel]

Are you trying to convert the file?

Conversion takes time.

But I can assure you it does not take 16 hours to burn the discs.

[housepig]

- your computer is not very fast
- net video is generally not dvd-legal mpg-2, so it needs to be converted
- the encoder in Nero is not as fast or efficient as encoders like TMPGenc, ProCoder or Mainconcept.

[Supreme2k]

Buy the movie and skip all the headaches. Try this place.

[90blackcrx]

I'll try the other software, as far as buying the movies, these are home movies of races so I can't buy them. There avi formates also, if that helps.

[gitreel]

Are you tryin to burn them as dvd?

That is what is taking so long, because they have to be converted to mpeg2.

[90blackcrx]

So would it be faster to convert these files with a different program then use nero to burn it ? Will this make the quality any less ? And if this way is better, what programs are good to convert avi's to mpeg2. I thought the file had to be a vob file though.

[fmctm1sw]

Definitely use something other than Nero to convert your avi to mpeg. The vobs will be created after you do the authoring phase.

[ZippyP.]

VOB's contain the mpeg video, plus they can also have multiple audio tracks and the subtitles.

To make your mpeg try this guide, and use nero for burning only.

[90blackcrx]

Sorry I'm kind of lost, is the hole thing that I'm trying to do is to convert the avi into a mpeg file ?

[fmctm1sw]

Sorry I'm kind of lost, is the hole thing that I'm trying to do is to convert the avi into a mpeg file ?

This will depend on what you want to do. If you want to make a DVD compliant file that you can play in your standalone DVD player, you will need to convert this avi file to a compliant mpeg file. Then you will need to "author" your material and burn it to a disk. Knowing a little about your source file would help as well. What is the resolution? You can find out with something like avicodec or gspot.

[90blackcrx]

So basically if I convert the avi to an mpeg it won't take as long to burn, if it is taking about 10 hours now, how long will it take once I convert it before hand ? And yes I want to play these on a stand alone dvd player.

[mats.hogberg]

I think you don't realize the steps that has to be taken in the process from AVI to DVD:
First, the AVI video has to be encoded to m2v (mpeg2 video) and the AVI audio to mp2, ac3 or LPCM audio.
Then it has to be authored, where the new audio and video is multiplexed, thus making VOB files. These, together with some files that tell the DVD player what is on disc (.ifo files) go into the VIDEO_TS folder. This, together with the empty folder AUDIO_TS folder then get burned to the DVD.
First step takes time, regardless of software used. Faster processor, faster encode.
Second stage (authoring) also takes some time, but not that much compared to encoding.
Burning takes almost no time at all, compared to encodiing.

/Mats

[90blackcrx]

Thanks guys, so it looks like if I want to make the process faster I'll have to do all that, I think I'll just stick with what I'm doing now and just wait.

[mats.hogberg]

...or get a faster CPU! (And read some of the umpteen guides on AVI to DVD conversion while you wait!)

/Mats

[90blackcrx]

So if the file is already an mpeg file, will it be a lot quicker to burn the file ? I thought though that avi files were better quality then mpeg files. Atleast this is what I got out of the faq section.

[ZippyP.]

So if the file is already an mpeg file, will it be a lot quicker to burn the file ? I thought though that avi files were better quality then mpeg files. Atleast this is what I got out of the faq section.

If your mpeg is already DVD compliant (meaning that it is DVD spec.) then the authoring/burning process is relatively fast, perhaps a 1/2 hour total. Converting from avi to mpeg takes time, if you have a slow computer then it can be a lot of time. In order to make a DVD you must have a DVD compliant mpeg, and that is what Nero is creating for you when it takes 16 hours to complete the entire process.

You cannot say that an avi is better quality than an mpeg, there are good and bad avi's and mpegs. An mpeg created from an avi cannot be made any better quality than the source. Whether you realize it or not, Nero is a crappy encoder and it is degrading the quality when you let it encode from your avi. If you're happy with that method then all is fine, but if you want better quality then take the advice that was given. Convert to mpeg with TMPGEnc and use nero for burning (authoring and writing to disk) only.

[90blackcrx]

Well I have the file I want in avi form and in mpeg form, thats why I asked. Basically wanted to know which one I should pick.

[90blackcrx]

Sorry went back and posted twice

[pchan]

Well I have the file I want in avi form and in mpeg form, thats why I asked. Basically wanted to know which one I should pick.

If you want to playback in a standalone DVD player, then you need mpeg format.

[90blackcrx]

Yeah I got that so far, but if the file is already an mpeg file, it won't take that long to burn correct ?

[lordsmurf]

Yeah I got that so far, but if the file is already an mpeg file, it won't take that long to burn correct ?

Only is the MPEG is compliant with some format.

[jimmalenko]

Yeah I got that so far, but if the file is already an mpeg file, it won't take that long to burn correct ?

I don't mean to sound rude, but I think you missed the point of the last 10 posts or so.

Before you can burn, your MPEG must meet DVD technical specifications. If it doesn't then you need to re-encode it so that it does. Once your file meets the specifications, it doesn't take long to author and burn.

[90blackcrx]

Won't tmpge make it so it will meet the dvd qualifactions ?

[jimmalenko]

Won't tmpge make it so it will meet the dvd qualifactions ?

There is TMPGEnc the encoder and TMPGEnc DVD AUthor - two separate programs. If your MPEG is not to spec, the encoder will fix it up provided you select the correct settings. Then you can feed it into the DVD Author, then burn.

[90blackcrx]

I'm using tmpgenc

[jimmalenko]

1. You have your source file (AVI or MPEG).
2. Then you convert this to DVD compliant MPEG-2. (TMPGEnc Plus)
3. Then you author this to IFO, BUP and VOB files. (TMPGEnc DVD Author)
4. Then you burn the IFO, BUP and VOB files.(Nero)

Got it ?

[mats.hogberg]

So if the file is already an mpeg file, will it be a lot quicker to burn the file ?

Not quite still there: Burning time is only dependant on your burner (and somewhat your computer) capabilities. And is insignificant either way. It's the encoding that takes time. But yes, if the mpeg is to DVD specs, the time consuming encoding stage can be skipped, leaving just the authoring and burning. Note, that my experiences with Nero (very short, and long ago, as I've found much better tools for creating DVD from AVI) is that it might well reencode a perfectly fine mpeg...

/Mats

[dxj40c]

Why didn't you capture your video in dvd format originally? Most capture cards have this ability. I have a Pinnacle card and it has a choice of capture formats: AVI, SVCD, VCD, DVD Compliant, encoding time equals the length of the movie. I run it through TMPG DVD author (about 10 min to create .vob,.ifo, .bup), and burn with Nero (about 15 min @ 4x). Times are for about 90 min of video with a 1.8 Ghz P4.

[dxj40c]

Oops. I just realized you said it was in AVI when you downloaded, so forget everything in the previous post. Sorry (it's early and I've only had one cup of coffee).