Baldrick, Jimmalenko

[mayday56]

this is the second thread that you have locked on me.tell whats this forum for but to get answers to questions. my question was not answererd unless the i dont think so that jimmalenko said counts as an answer. Im not to lazy to shut down scenalyzer. maybe you should find out what frameserving is for. its a timesaver, has nothing to do with being lazy. I just wanted to capture the dv from my canopus to scenalyzer and send the output to procoder.....if you are going to try to help people out maybe you should study up a little first

[Capmaster]

The thread was locked because you cross-posted.
Cross-posting is a violation of this forum's AUP

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=233018&highlight=

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1014403&highlight=#1014403

[BJ_M]

he didnt want cross posting is all-

this thread is the one going for your question

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=232923&highlight=

[Capmaster]

My mistake Unlocked.

[mayday56]

it all started out when I tried to write a script for avisynth to frameserve from scenalyzer to procoder.I want to streamline my process. I started a vhs to dvd conversion business on the side. so the first thread was to ask for script writing help because I couldnt get it to work. apparently it wasnt my script writing seems, like It just cant be done. but I thought maybe someone had a trick or something to get it to work. so hence the second thread that Baldrick locked. so I still didnt get an answer(not counting the babble that jimmalenko was putting out. this is a copy and paste of his answer...'I don't think you can frameserve from scenalyzer, but I could be wrong...'then in the new thread here is his answer..'Off the top of my head I'm pretty sure the answer you got was NO.' then later in the thread...'From what I can work out, mayday56 is too lazy to close Scenalyzer or doesn't understand frameserving and when to use it'....what kind of crap is this. I was asking a legit question. You all can see I only have 20 posts so who am I to question Jimmalenko with almost 2500 posts. I mean if you dont know what you are talking about you shouldnt post ....and his sig says it all...Be a man and admit that you're wrong.

[Supreme2k]

This thread looks like it should be done entirely in PM. I once made that mistake with a "suggestion" about SatStorm

[makntraks]

This thread looks like it should be done entirely in PM. I once made that mistake with a "suggestion" about SatStorm

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Remember it well.....
makntraks

[indolikaa]

Jimmalenko bad. Jimmalenko not get virgin.

[flaninacupboard]

it all started out when I tried to write a script for avisynth to frameserve from scenalyzer to procoder.I want to streamline my process. I started a vhs to dvd conversion business on the side. so the first thread was to ask for script writing help because I couldnt get it to work. apparently it wasnt my script writing seems, like It just cant be done. but I thought maybe someone had a trick or something to get it to work. so hence the second thread that Baldrick locked. so I still didnt get an answer(not counting the babble that jimmalenko was putting out. this is a copy and paste of his answer...'I don't think you can frameserve from scenalyzer, but I could be wrong...'then in the new thread here is his answer..'Off the top of my head I'm pretty sure the answer you got was NO.' then later in the thread...'From what I can work out, mayday56 is too lazy to close Scenalyzer or doesn't understand frameserving and when to use it'....what kind of crap is this. I was asking a legit question. You all can see I only have 20 posts so who am I to question Jimmalenko with almost 2500 posts. I mean if you dont know what you are talking about you shouldnt post ....and his sig says it all...Be a man and admit that you're wrong.

Procoder can open DV files. you do not need to frameserve anything.

Unless you want to capture with scenalyser and encode in procoder at the SAME TIME? in which case that's not frameserving. and probably not possible.

[mayday56]

I know procoder can open and process dv files. what im trying to do is send the output of scenalyzer to the input of procoder with out first having to capture the whole file. this is a copy and paste from lukes frameserving guide....Depending the on the frameserving application, you can usually edit/process your video as it is being frameserved. Because frameserving produces no intermediate files, you can use a frameserver to alter your videos without requiring any additional disk space. the whole question was from the beginning was is it possible???

[jimmalenko]

this is the second thread that you have locked on me.tell whats this forum for but to get answers to questions. my question was not answererd unless the i dont think so that jimmalenko said counts as an answer. Im not to lazy to shut down scenalyzer. maybe you should find out what frameserving is for. its a timesaver, has nothing to do with being lazy. I just wanted to capture the dv from my canopus to scenalyzer and send the output to procoder.....if you are going to try to help people out maybe you should study up a little first

I frameserve using DVD2AVI to TMPGEnc when re-encoding DVD material. I also use AVISynth scripts for DV while using both virtualdub and TMPGEnc.

I know what frameserving is....


The error you got ("File is already in use...") means that the file is locked by the program that is using it ... in this case, ScenalyzerLive. You don't need Scenalyzer open to frameserve. Once you have capped what you want to cap, close scenalyzer and use your AVISynth script. Now it can open the AVI because it is not locked.

You asked your question in a few different threads. That is not on. Use the one thread, and ask within it if anyone has any more ideas.

You have to capture the file first.

[jimmalenko]

it all started out when I tried to write a script for avisynth to frameserve from scenalyzer to procoder.I want to streamline my process. I started a vhs to dvd conversion business on the side. so the first thread was to ask for script writing help because I couldnt get it to work. apparently it wasnt my script writing seems, like It just cant be done. but I thought maybe someone had a trick or something to get it to work. so hence the second thread that Baldrick locked. so I still didnt get an answer(not counting the babble that jimmalenko was putting out. this is a copy and paste of his answer...'I don't think you can frameserve from scenalyzer, but I could be wrong...'then in the new thread here is his answer..'Off the top of my head I'm pretty sure the answer you got was NO.' then later in the thread...'From what I can work out, mayday56 is too lazy to close Scenalyzer or doesn't understand frameserving and when to use it'....what kind of crap is this. I was asking a legit question. You all can see I only have 20 posts so who am I to question Jimmalenko with almost 2500 posts. I mean if you dont know what you are talking about you shouldnt post ....and his sig says it all...Be a man and admit that you're wrong.

Big call to open a business without knowing what you're doing.

Is that what they call "on-the-job training" ?

You are wrong here mate. You need to capture your material to AVI first. Then you can use a script. You can't send the output to procoder at the same time as you are capturing.

RTFM.

[jimmalenko]

I know procoder can open and process dv files. what im trying to do is send the output of scenalyzer to the input of procoder with out first having to capture the whole file. this is a copy and paste from lukes frameserving guide....Depending the on the frameserving application, you can usually edit/process your video as it is being frameserved. Because frameserving produces no intermediate files, you can use a frameserver to alter your videos without requiring any additional disk space. the whole question was from the beginning was is it possible???

"as it is being frameserved..." not as it is being captured.

Big difference.

You must capture first, close Scenalyzer (you lazy) then frameserve to an encoder.

You're lucky I haven't flamed your ass for questioning my authority

[flaninacupboard]

Three posts in a row, you really want to get the point across..

[jimmalenko]

I sorta read the latest post then worked my way back up the thread.

I don't take knidly to someone telling me I'm babbling on and I should RTFM when it is obvious it is they who should be following their own advice.

[mayday56]

thanx for setting me straight...I already know what im doing as far as converting from vhs to dvd. just trying to save a little time in the process.frameserving wasnt in any of my classes. so thats why I ask the question in this forum....mastering decks are ag-1980 and a ag-1970. both have built in TBC. cap to dv via canopus advc-50. transcode using procoder to mpeg-2. author using TMPGenc DVD author. I cap at full D1 then resize to half D1 in procoder(vhs only) svhs i encode full D1. ...did I miss anything? that is the process i have to go thru for each tape. so you can see why im trying to cut some time out of the process...thanx again for all your help and not flaming me...

[jimmalenko]

thanx for setting me straight...I already know what im doing as far as converting from vhs to dvd. just trying to save a little time in the process.frameserving wasnt in any of my classes. so thats why I ask the question in this forum....mastering decks are ag-1980 and a ag-1970. both have built in TBC. cap to dv via canopus advc-50. transcode using procoder to mpeg-2. author using TMPGenc DVD author. I cap at full D1 then resize to half D1 in procoder(vhs only) svhs i encode full D1. ...did I miss anything? that is the process i have to go thru for each tape. so you can see why im trying to cut some time out of the process...thanx again for all your help and not flaming me...

I cap VHS and TV to DV using a VCR hooked up to an ADVC-100. I then frameserve to TMPGEnc Plus using the following script:

LoadPlugin("Convolution3d.dll")
avisource("D:\scene0001.avi")
SeparateFields()
odd=SelectOdd.Convolution3D (1, 8, 16, 8, 8, 2.8, 0) 
evn=SelectEven.Convolution3D (1, 8, 16, 8, 8, 2.8, 0) 
Interleave(evn,odd)
Weave()
ConvertToRGB(interlaced=true)

What it does:

LoadPlugin("Convolution3d.dll")
Loads the convolution3d dll. You need to put this in your windows\system32 folder. Convolution3d is a noise removal filter. It cleans up VHS pretty well. There are a couple of different "strengths" of filtering you can apply, but the values I've listed are generally regarded as appropriate for VHS.

avisource("D:\scene0001.avi")
Designates our input file.

SeparateFields()
odd=SelectOdd.Convolution3D (1, 8, 16, 8, 8, 2.8, 0)
evn=SelectEven.Convolution3D (1, 8, 16, 8, 8, 2.8, 0)
Interleave(evn,odd)
Weave()
This separates the fields, applies the noise reduction filter to them, then merges the fields back together.

ConvertToRGB(interlaced=true)
TMPGEnc needs RGB colorspace.

You can also use VirtualDubMod to insert cropping points directly into the script if you need to do any editing.