Prodisc S03 Media Code Alert. (MCC?)

[aanaravs]

i just bought 100 of the white ink jet printable prodiscs. 8X -R and all are MCC. near perfect burns so far on my 812, and 812@832. just my 2 cents.

Guess I had a bad batch

[Tom81]

Strange anamoly....I find with MCC/ Prodisc media that my speed test graphs look better at 4x than at 2x or 1x......... as anyone encountered this with any other media?

[BetaMaster]

Just my two cents worth

I bought some Memorex brand that were Prodisc 03. I have a Lite-on 812S. Most of the discs I burned had errors. This was driving me nuts and I couldn't find a consistent pattern, however:
- The PI scans I did were excellent - the media was in the range of 30 errors at worst, which is well within the maximum of 256.
- Discscans often found isolated errors on the disc, sometimes widely spread.
- Even discs that seemed to have no errors didn't check out correctly - they failed a checksum test I do now to salvage parts of the disc.

My verdict - Prodisc just doesn't get along with some burners, the 812S being one of them. I have read other reviews where others get excellent results.

812S fans will be happy to hear that my ultra-expensive ($1.50 cdn each in packs of 15) TDK brand, Richojpn code are performing splendidly at present - no errors, yet. I will post a review once I get through the spindle.

[jawgee]

The media code for my old Prodiscs is "ProdiscS03". I don't know what the media code is for the Linkyos as I won't receive them until Tuesday of next week.

Thanks,
jawgee

Thanks, I'll check back. If you are able to do Kprobe it would be interesting to see. I can't recall where but someone reported some half decent media. With house brands you never know.

Received my 100pk of white hub printable 4x Linkyos yesterday from Supermediastore. Haven't burned any yet, but I checked the media code in DVDInfoPro & it shows GSC002. Just doing a Google/CD Freaks check shows that these discs seems to scan well:

http://drivel.com.tw/dvd/GSC002-4X-R/

http://club.cdfreaks.com/search.php?searchid=327102

I'm going to try to burn a few of these at 8x on my NEC 2500A tonight & do some CD/DVD Speed checks afterwards.

Thanks,
jawgee

[louv68]

BetaMaster

I had the same problem with them till I upgraded my firmware. Now they burn flawlessly. I haven't had a bad burn with them in months.

[jawgee]

The media code for my old Prodiscs is "ProdiscS03". I don't know what the media code is for the Linkyos as I won't receive them until Tuesday of next week.

Thanks,
jawgee

Thanks, I'll check back. If you are able to do Kprobe it would be interesting to see. I can't recall where but someone reported some half decent media. With house brands you never know.

Received my 100pk of white hub printable 4x Linkyos yesterday from Supermediastore. Haven't burned any yet, but I checked the media code in DVDInfoPro & it shows GSC002. Just doing a Google/CD Freaks check shows that these discs seems to scan well:

http://drivel.com.tw/dvd/GSC002-4X-R/

http://club.cdfreaks.com/search.php?searchid=327102

I'm going to try to burn a few of these at 8x on my NEC 2500A tonight & do some CD/DVD Speed checks afterwards.

Thanks,
jawgee

Just a follow up...I burned a full DVD this morning using the white hub printable 4x Linkyo DVD-Rs I receveid from Supermediastore recently. RecordNow DX 4.6 only wanted to burn it at 6X max, which is OK, but I would like to get it to 8X. I really only lose about 1min or in burning time since my the NEC 2500A doesn't start burning at 8X until somewhere past the 3GB mark (a ballpark guess). I ran a CD/DVD Speed check & the resultant graph was perfect. No wiggles at the end of the DVD - hooray!

I'm going to print on the DVD tonight to see how it looks compared to a ProDisc S03. One thing I noticed right away is that the printable area doesn't extend quite as far to the outer edge of the DVD as the ProDisc S03 & BeAlls. The Linkyos have maybe 2mm less in it's printable diameter than the ProDisc.

Thanks,
jawgee

[jawgee]

A follow up...I burned a full DVD this morning using the white hub printable 4x Linkyo DVD-Rs I receveid from Supermediastore recently. RecordNow DX 4.6 only wanted to burn it at 6X max, which is OK, but I would like to get it to 8X. I really only lose about 1min or in burning time since my the NEC 2500A doesn't start burning at 8X until somewhere past the 3GB mark (a ballpark guess). I ran a CD/DVD Speed check & the resultant graph was perfect. No wiggles at the end of the DVD - hooray!

I'm going to print on the DVD tonight to see how it looks compared to a ProDisc S03. One thing I noticed right away is that the printable area doesn't extend quite as far to the outer edge of the DVD as the ProDisc S03 & BeAlls. The Linkyos have maybe 2mm less in it's printable diameter than the ProDisc.

Thanks,
jawgee

One more follow-up after printing to the Linkyos...the outside printi diameter is a bit thinner than the Prodisc like I mentioned. I used 118mm in the Epson CD Printer software. The inner diameter is a bit thicker (thinner, depending on how you look at it), though, at about 20mm. So, you gain some printing area on the inside of the disc over the Prodisc, but lose some on the outside. Tackiness seemed about the same as the Prodisc, so that's good.

Going to try to upgrade my NEC 2500A's fw to Herrie's 1.07 v2b5 as I'm only running b4 at the moment. I'm doing this to see if it allows me to burn these Linkyos at 8x rather than 6x.

Thanks,
jawgee

[Bix]

Got the blue wrapper, matte silver 4X Prodiscs today. Code is MCC 02RG20. 1 burn down that went fine, 2nd is going now. "Writing LeadIn..." is taking longer than usual (3 Minutes on burn 2), but otherwise they seem okay so far and working as my good ProDisc S03s did. Update to come after a few more burns...

So do we have word on who is making these and with what materials yet (as in could ProDisc be replacing CMC in manufacturing discs for MCC)? So confusing...

[lordsmurf]

I just got in several hundred of the blue-wrapper MCC myself. Can give these a real hard test now.

[noki]

go lordsmurf. please keep us informed. thanks.

[Bix]

Feh 1 disc ok, then 10 w/ write errors...

[Brent212]

Has anyone noticed a difference between the discs with media code MMC 02RG20 and MMC 01RG20 ? I have 100 of the "01" discs, matte finish, from rima.com. I have only burned one so far, and it played fine on my pioneer dvd player. But that thing plays any disc I throw in it, so that doesn't really mean much.

Has anyone taken note of the differences in experiences people seem to be having with these two media codes? Sounds like the "02" discs might not be very reliable, at least the ones that Bix got.

[Bix]

So for kicks I ran the working disc through Nero CD/DVDSpeed's Scandisc to show you all:



And then I put it back in my DMR-E30 which I was playing it in earlier, and it starts freezing. It's playing fine on my PC using WinDVD. Ripping an ISO now, and it's dying, stopped at 9% w/ a read error.

Thoughts?

[jackedup]

I just got in several hundred of the blue-wrapper MCC myself. Can give these a real hard test now.

Are these the Prodisc white inkjet printables? Are they the 4X or 8X?

Please let us know as soon as you have run some tests. I really need to order about 500 and now have no idea what to buy. I really don't want to pay.70 for blanks but don't want a load of garbage either.

Thanks

[samijubal]

Get them from Rima, they are S03s or S04s.

[jackedup]

Get them from Rima, they are S03s or S04s.

I just phoned them and they told me that the current batch of Prodisc is MCC. They are aware that some seem to be S03 and some MCC but the current batch is definitely MCC.

[lordsmurf]

I just got in several hundred of the blue-wrapper MCC myself. Can give these a real hard test now.

Are these the Prodisc white inkjet printables? Are they the 4X or 8X?

Please let us know as soon as you have run some tests. I really need to order about 500 and now have no idea what to buy. I really don't want to pay.70 for blanks but don't want a load of garbage either.

Thanks

PRODISC 4x MCC-coded silver matte from SuperMediaStore.com (about 35 cents each).

Duplicating at 4x is tough enough, 8x on-the-fly is largely impossible, unless you can accept underruns and larger coaster counts. I have no plans to ever get large amounts of 8x media, not unless the hardware learns to catch up. Maybe SATA and 32/64x ROM drives down the road can do it. Then again, I don't have a real need for such things.

[samijubal]

Get them from Rima, they are S03s or S04s.

I just phoned them and they told me that the current batch of Prodisc is MCC. They are aware that some seem to be S03 and some MCC but the current batch is definitely MCC.

I guess I lucked out, I ordered 500 last week and got S04 8X.

[jackedup]

I just got in several hundred of the blue-wrapper MCC myself. Can give these a real hard test now.

Are these the Prodisc white inkjet printables? Are they the 4X or 8X?

Please let us know as soon as you have run some tests. I really need to order about 500 and now have no idea what to buy. I really don't want to pay.70 for blanks but don't want a load of garbage either.

Thanks

PRODISC 4x MCC-coded silver matte from SuperMediaStore.com (about 35 cents each).

Duplicating at 4x is tough enough, 8x on-the-fly is largely impossible, unless you can accept underruns and larger coaster counts. I have no plans to ever get large amounts of 8x media, not unless the hardware learns to catch up. Maybe SATA and 32/64x ROM drives down the road can do it. Then again, I don't have a real need for such things.

Thanks.

I have, well had, no intention of buying 8X media either but if they are the S03 instead of the MCC I would consider buying those and just write them at 4X. I don't need or want to buy 8X either but am concerned about buying the 4X MCC given what seems to be many problems with them.

How do the silvers look when printed? I would think the white background would make them much easier to read but perhaps I am wrong.

Thanks again and sure hope you have some positive feedback later so I can order them with confidence.

[Brent212]

Get them from Rima, they are S03s or S04s.

The two 50 packs I got last week from Rima were Silver Matte 4X, media code MCC 01RG20. The ones from supermediastore seem to be MCC 02RG20, from what I've read on here.

[jackedup]

I just got in several hundred of the blue-wrapper MCC myself. Can give these a real hard test now.

Just wondered if you have anything to report on these disks. I would value your opinion as to whether it is safe to buy the MCC code Prodisc or try to find someone with S03.

Meritline claims they have S03 media

Thanks Smurf

[jackedup]

Just thought I would let you know that Meritline has the 4X DVD-R white inkjet printable Prodisc available in either the S03 or the MCC media code and you can take your choice.

I placed an order yesterday for 500 of the white and they had they shipped yesterday. The service was great as was their responses to my e-mails. I had never dealt with them before but have to say I was certainly very impressed with their service, and the fact that I could get either of the media codes.

Just thought I would let you know for those that may be looking for one or the other code specifically.

[lordsmurf]

Out of the first 50 MCC Prodiscs, it appears I've got two coasters (one freezes at end, one crashed at burn). Nice.

So far, results look promising, what I have come to expect from MCC in the past.

[chas0039]

Well, this is not the Prodisc S03 but here is the latest offering in the Prodisc -R 8X media crapshoot.

You might get any of the following media codes and a few people have been complaining that these media are not what they have come to expect when they have used this media code before.

FUJIFILM03
PRODISCS04
PRODISCF01
MCC02RG20

[jackedup]

Get them from Rima, they are S03s or S04s.

I just phoned them and they told me that the current batch of Prodisc is MCC. They are aware that some seem to be S03 and some MCC but the current batch is definitely MCC.

I guess I lucked out, I ordered 500 last week and got S04 8X.

How have they been working?

Has anyone done a scan on the S04 yet and how did it look?

Thanks

[chas0039]

S04 scans here.


https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=237823&start=30

[jackedup]

S04 scans here.


https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=237823&start=30

Thanks very much.

I actually did find that after my post, but can you interpret the scans for me?

I am pretty new to all of this so would really appreciate if someone would be kind enough to summarize what the scans mean.

Thanks

[TOpclass]

I got 100 disks from rima and they where all MCC. Just got a NC 3500a burner and you can burn at 12x on these disks (prodisk -r 4x). I have skipped chapters on the disks but did not watch the whole movies all the way tho. Also did not test the disk to see if it had any errors.

(what programs can I use to see if the disk has any errors, I do have nero)

[chas0039]

These guys do it better than I can. Also there is a wealth of other scans from which to compare.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=80545

[HyperYagami]

Well, just to write down my own experience in case anyone has the same problem.

Just got my 100 4x Prodisc, all MCC.

My Sony DRU-500A fw 2.0h took quite a bit of time to do lead-in, and the 1st 2 disc ended with "power calibration" at the beginning (nothing was written yet, so the disc were reuseable).

Then upgraded to 2.1A, rebooted, shutted down the PC then restarted, and with the same disc that failed earlier now burning fine, although the lead-in time was still quite long.