SP2 and divx not getting along

[smearbrick1]

I don't think the last couple of posters are getting the point at all. When you install SP2, it overlays SP1. Ok... Now, when said installation (the full windows installation) becomes corrupted due to drive malfunction, elves, hurricanes... whatever it would then be necessary to reinstall from your original windows disc (unless you had something like Ghost, or Drive Image). Anyway, you would then have to install, from your original disc, Windows XP (if SP1 was integrated, it would install also). After starting up and getting your net connections and everything... you would then have to redownload SP2 to update your PC. SP2 does not magically replace SP1 on your Windows XP SP1 disc, nor does it spit out a totally new install disc after you have upgraded to SP2. To avoid having to download SP2 again after a clean install, wait until after the full SP2 has been released and download the full install from the MS Website. I did this for SP4 under Windows 2000 and do not have to wait for it download everytime I format and install Windows 2000 on a PC. I automatically have the SP4 update on a disc.

Now, as far as SP2 being a death sentence for your PC... that's just ******* stupid. I assume in saying this, that you have several of the listed programs that would be affected? Have you checked for workarounds for the listed programs; I believe there have been many posted for those programs. Also, if a specific piece of software is having issue with SP2, don't you think it would be in the software publisher's best interest to have these issues corrected as most of the world runs on Windows XP?

My advice, shut off automatic updates and wait for the full release of SP2. By then, most of the compatibility issues between MS and other Software companies will have been rectified.

Stop bitching about DIVX not working under SP2! There's a workaround isn't there? Stop assuming that MS is purposely putting incompatibility issues in their service packs just to undermine your ability to use DIVX.

[gitreel]

Why would you want to install sp1 over sp2?

That would be stupid.

[chicola]

I don't think the last couple of posters are getting the point at all.

I think you're the one who did not get it, yet.

shut off automatic updates and wait for the full release of SP2

BTW, how much "full" can it it get???????

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=049C9DBE-3B8E-...5-9E368D3CDB5A

[gitreel]

I am not bitching.

I am a competent tech/admin and I know what I am doing.

There was a known imcompatibility and I was just pointing that out.

Ok....get a grip.

[chicola]

gitreel,

I'm answering to smearbrick1, not you.

I agree with everything you expressed earlier. I also see no reason to rollback.

Friends??

[gitreel]

yeah

I just get the feeling that smearbrick was saying I was bitching.

[gitreel]

Smearbrick,

Since when is reporting the news considered bitching?

[smearbrick1]

I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone. Maybe bitching was an extreme term, but you must admit there is alot of ...um...bitching about Service Pack incompatibilities. Also, my point about the Full service pack release:
The whole of SP2 has yet to be released. Am I not correct? I believe so. Anyway, by the time the whole Service Pack has been released, these glitches should be sorted out. I was simply stating that if you waited until then to upgrade to SP2, you may not experience the aforementioned problems.

On to the installing SP2 over SP1 issue...
Someone implied (maybe I read too deep into the message) that they were worried about having to do a clean install of Windows XP from their current windows disc. Several posts that followed indicated that there would be no issue as you already had SP2. This is not true. If you format, reinstall from a Windows XP Sp1 disc, you will NOT have SP2. You will then have to re-download the whole of SP2. I then suggested, to avoid this, download SP2 independant of Windows Update, store it on a CDR, then reinstall when necessary.

[gitreel]

First of all, it is out. This is the full release. You should do more research.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=049C9DBE-3B8E-...5-9E368D3CDB5A

If you burn it to cd-r the first time, there is no redownloading involved.

Second of all, there are a bunch of companies that are holding off on installing because of incompatibilities. There are now 200 incompatibilities.

I tested it on 4 computers and I experienced no problems. I was just reporting what I had read.

If you would take your head out of your arse, you would realize that.

Reporting is not bitching. By reporting what I read, I may be able to help someone else who is having problems.

Grow up.

[richdvd]

Works fine for me!
Been using SP2 for a few weeks now.

[proxyx99]

@ smearbrick

First of all, cut down on the adjectives. There's no place for F-words here. Need help with replacement ...? How about a dictionary, huh?

and gtreel...

Seems like you both try to come across as experts yet you either did not read my posts or didn't get them. The case with downloadable updates is that you apply them after the initial install. If you need to repair Windows you need to rerun setup (you know a better way?). If SP2 was already installed you would end up with XP SP1 if you had it (like me) integrated (getrrel . "Why would you want to install sp1 over sp2? "), If you try to respond read the original post first.
In order to fix WinXP with SP2 patch you would need to either run setup over SP2 or uninstall SP2, rerun setup and reapply SP2. You follow me?
If you have ever tried SP uninstall you know that inevitably leads to problems. I was just drawing a typical scenario. For those who have 1 or 2 applications installed experimenting may not be a problem. In worst case scenario they can reinstall. This is not an option for me. Can't afford spending few days on fixing up my PC. That is why I'd rather have XP SP2 integrated and run it as an upgrade over the one I have now. You see the difference (?) or do I need to explain it further.
I know what I'm saying, trust me, I'm quite good with this stuff... 8)

@flaystus

SP2 replaces SP1, there would be no reason to rerun it. Doing so would likely CAUSE problems.I was just playing with

Didn't I say XP SP1 (which is (was) a CURRENT WinXP OFFICIAL release) not XP with SP1 (downloadable) update, duh... Where did you get that from that one would like to install SP1 before SP2 ???
Same applies to other posters blindly following Flaysus'es mistaken notion without reading the original post.

That is why I responded how I responded, with a joke about throwing away my installation disk!

So, SP2 in its current form is not for me. You guys seem to have too much time to waste.

[gitreel]

proxyx

Do a system restore instead of repairing.

Easier and quicker.

That would take you back to before you ever installed sp2.

[chicola]

proxyx99,

I still think that SP2 with DEP disabled should be better than SP1.

But, i'll not put money on it...

[gitreel]

There are few processors that can even take advantage of DEP.

Both intel and amd got caught with their pants down, so to speak.

[proxyx99]

proxyx

Do a system restore instead of repairing.

Easier and quicker.

That would take you back to before you ever installed sp2.

system restore as an idea is excellent but the execution of it is just a disaster. SR is by far the No.1 source of file system corruption in XP (plus AV has huge issues with it, read why (if you need). Turned it off long time ago. Btw. have you ever seen "unable to restore" msg due to whatever... (?). That seems to be quite freq. part of Restore routine You are an optimist, I'm just realistic about the whole thing.

[chicola]

Yep, gitreel.

And, remember my mouse right-click problem:
MS recommends that you disable DEP app by app. For that, one has to know which is the troublesome app.

But when the problem is the system hanging everytime i right-click on my mouse, i am completely blind on how to find out which is the app hanging the system... So, there goes DEP!

But SP2 stays!! It must! The only way I'm taking it out is with the release of SP3!

[gitreel]

Yes,

I have seen that and it was because of Norton Antivirus. I have fixed that issue though. SR works perfect for me.

[chicola]

I don't have Norton...

On SR, I go with proxyx99. I have it disable to improve performance but, the only time I used it, it worked perfectly.

[gitreel]

It wasn't really Norton's fault.

I did not have it configured right.