scope recommendations

[BJ_M]

i think something like this would make a good hunting weapon -- fill your tag with one shot





what is a G90 ? , i know the Biathlon-7-4 which you can order directly from LEGION Ltd. - in russia (who also make a lot of other things including the above)

http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/weapon.shtml

[Guest]

i think something like this would make a good hunting weapon -- fill your tag with one shot





what is a G90 ? , i know the Biathlon-7-4 which you can order directly from LEGION Ltd. - in russia (who also make a lot of other things including the above)

http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/weapon.shtml

I dont hunt.The guys at the gun club would not like what I would do to the targets with that.

[Capmaster]

Ideal for home defense Great when those third-world countries show up at your front door with an armed division 8)

[rallynavvie]

The G90 is really just the military MSG90 with a different trigger group. It's the sniper version of the venerable H&K G3 assault rifle, and often mistaken for a modified HK91 here in the States

I've modified it with a trigger stop from a PSG-1 (the variant most people know of), changed out the scope several times, and cryo-treated the barrel at Diversified Cryogenics (a local company, which was handy for me, they also did my brake rotors). Lovely gun but only a 7.62 and it's starting to feel old. I can fetch a pretty penny for it though, probably as much as a used PSG-1 with the way it's rigged. Who wants a PSG-1 anyway, it ejects empties 30 feet away making a bitch to police your brass and it weighs in at something like 20 lbs. Still probably $5k short on a trade-up to a rifle chambered for the .338 Lapua.

Anyone know if there is a .338 rifle not manufactured by Accuracy International?

[Capmaster]

Anyone here play around with varmint calibers? I've wanted a 7mm magnum or a .22-250 but I've gotten mixed reviews from fellow shooters.
I tried a 7mm once at the range and the guy who owned it had the trigger honed to a 0.5 lb. pull. The only trigger I've tried that was touchier was an electric trigger on a .22 Olympic rifle

[BJ_M]

i got a old Model 70 Winchester .220 swift still in perfect shape with a nice Leupold on it (i like Leupold scopes for in the field - as well as B&L) ..

thats the extent of "varmint" that i have ... .220 swift is still , i believe, one of the best , fastest factory loads around i understand.

[Capmaster]

i got a old Model 70 Winchester .220 swift still in perfect shape with a nice Leupold on it (i like Leupold scopes for in the field - as well as B&L) ..

thats the extent of "varmint" that i have ... .220 swift is still , i believe, one of the best , fastest factory loads around i understand.

Yep. The .220 Swift is a classic varmint round. Insanely high muzzle velocities 8)

[rallynavvie]

I don't know if I'd consider the 7mm mag a varminter, that's more of a big game rifle. the 22-250 is and maybe something like the 25-06. I'd also consider the 5.56 guns to be varminters when configured properly. The .220 is a great round, but all the varmin calibers are just too small for my taste. I like rounds you can hear tear through the air

The 7-4 I had was a .5 pull. My favorite part about that gun was the thumb bolt. I do the same thing with the G90 in that it is semi-automatic but it can fire without ejecting the round so that you have to work the action again to chamber another round. It gives me another chance to do the famous HK slap

[Capmaster]

I don't know if I'd consider the 7mm mag a varminter, that's more of a big game rifle

I'm not so sure I'd call a .28 caliber rifle a "Big game" rifle. I think more of some of the fine hand-made British double-barrels like the .750 Nitro, .500 Nitro, or the .458 Win mag when someone mentions "big game". That's just me though

[rallynavvie]

Well there really isn't a "medium game" category so whitetail deer are considered big game. The .270 has been a mainstay of deer hunting and I'd probably make that the line between varmint rifles and large game rifles. It also has plenty of knockdown for larger game like brown bear and such. Hell my dad was out hunting moose with us with his 25-06.

I pretty much draw the line at larger calibers over .45 because at that point they'll start losing range unless you've got a cartridge behind it that makes the throw on a bolt become an Olympic sport of its own. I think the .375 is about as big a bore as I want to go for hunting rifles. The .338 is one of the best balances sharpshooter rounds for marksman rifles.

[Doramius]

Here's something that'll make you laugh. Try using rubber slugs to shoot rabbit. You will split your sides and have tears at the eyes. And you'll still have the rabbit on your plate.

I've also targeted golf balls off of tees while laying on the ground. Clean it up and give it to someone for a real golf game. You'll be rolling on the green with laughter. You need to be about 4'-6' away from the ball to make sure the bullet will go through cleanly. You'll also need several balls incase the first bunch start showing warps or visible holes in the shell.

[Guest]

Wanna real challange.Gi hunting with snap caps.

[Capmaster]

Wanna real challange.Gi hunting with snap caps.

Those little white things you throw on the ground that we can buy for the 4th?

[Guest]

no silly
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jhtml?id=00069192207...rch&hasJS=true

[Capmaster]

no silly
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jhtml?id=00069192207...rch&hasJS=true

DUHHHHH!!!! I knew what those are <considers the increased incidence of these brain farts lately mildly disturbing>

[BJ_M]

Well there really isn't a "medium game" category so whitetail deer are considered big game. The .270 has been a mainstay of deer hunting and I'd probably make that the line between varmint rifles and large game rifles. It also has plenty of knockdown for larger game like brown bear and such. Hell my dad was out hunting moose with us with his 25-06.

I pretty much draw the line at larger calibers over .45 because at that point they'll start losing range unless you've got a cartridge behind it that makes the throw on a bolt become an Olympic sport of its own. I think the .375 is about as big a bore as I want to go for hunting rifles. The .338 is one of the best balances sharpshooter rounds for marksman rifles.

yes - 270 is fine for most anything in north america and 7mm mag is well used also from deer to moose to bear, i have a friend use a 303 for deer and a 300 weatherby for moose. Prob. the most used is still the 30-30 for about anything (i have a 1954 model 94 in still very prime condition that i first started hunting with, and i will start my son on also as it is a very safe rifle to use in terms of how to set the safety) ..
i bet more bear, deer, and moose have been shot with a 30-30 than anything else ... 308 of course is extremly popular and so is the 44-40 seen more than you would expect ..

i use a 30-06 for moose and bear and my mini 30 with an aimdot for deer now .. Big bore stuff like larger than 300mag is not needed in north american in the lower 48 and lower canada -- in fact dangerous in many areas like lower michigan except maybe for elk higher up.

i got a old 25-20 (from about 1917) .. if the rounds were not so expensive - it makes a fun little varmint rifle .. we got a 32-20 also somewhere in the family.

[Capmaster]

I'll bet the 30-30 is the most common rifle in N. America. It's a great learning rifle for kids because the recoil is so manageable. It doesn't cause youngsters to develop trigger jerk as much as a 30-06 would.

[Doramius]

no silly
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jhtml?id=00069192207...rch&hasJS=true

I thought about getting these instead of the blanks I have. These are just the blasting/priming caps though, aren't they? No actual charge of gun powder. When I thought about getting these I didn't realize they didn't make noise like a regular blank. When I found out, I decided not to get them.

[thor300]

I had a 30-30 once, one of these cheap American made combis (savage i think), with a 20/3" on bottom and the rifle on top, external **** with a selector for which barrel to fire. What a piece of shit, AND i didnt like the caliber. Very bad for long range and too powerful for short range small game. All the ammo was made for tube magazines, except for the Norma ones, couldnt find anything else that worked, the american made ammo had too thin jacket, kinda varmint-like expansion.

[Capmaster]

I had a 30-30 once, one of these cheap American made combis (savage i think), with a 20/3" on bottom and the rifle on top, external **** with a selector for which barrel to fire. What a piece of shit, AND i didnt like the caliber. Very bad for long range and too powerful for short range small game. All the ammo was made for tube magazines, except for the Norma ones, couldnt find anything else that worked, the american made ammo had too thin jacket, kinda varmint-like expansion.

You've gotta reload if you're a serious shooter. Else you will go broke in a hurry!
Some of my reloads. Aren't they priiidy?

[Doramius]

I agree to that. My .22 rifle has a 15 loader along the bottom of the barrel, so I can have 16 shots total having one breech loaded into the barrel. When I go target shooting with it, the gun goes empty in about 30-45 seconds. This is with bolt action too. I get 2 500round boxes at Wal-Mart and will use both boxes completely in one afternoon. Back east, I used to get in trouble at a friends house because we had a huge pile of brass casings just sitting off to the side of the area we shot from. WE cleaned most of it up one day and turned them in to a recycling center. I think we got about $15 for all of the casings. After that, when my friends and I went shooting, we'd lay out a tarp to catch the casings and then pour them into 5 gall. buckets to take to the recycling plant.

[thor300]

I dont see the need for reloading for handgun for my use, my S&W M59 like the military ammo and works perfect with the cheapest ammo from Jugoslavia and Chech Republic. The only time i really wanted to reload myself was when i had that 30-30, since it was obviously impossible to get full metal jackets for it.
If i get a reloader i like to get a Mauser M98 long action and fit it with a thick .243Win barrel and re-chamber it to .243-06, sounds like a nice wildcat.
http://www.udarrell.com/243-06_95sst.html

[Doramius]

I dont see the need for reloading for handgun for my use, my S&W M59 like the military ammo and works perfect with the cheapest ammo from Jugoslavia and Chech Republic. The only time i really wanted to reload myself was when i had that 30-30, since it was obviously impossible to get full metal jackets for it.
If i get a reloader i like to get a Mauser M98 long action and fit it with a thick .243Win barrel and re-chamber it to .243-06, sounds like a nice wildcat.
http://www.udarrell.com/243-06_95sst.html

Sounds good, but are you small enough to fit in a car trunk the next time you go to Washington DC?

I still find no use for handguns, so I don't carry any or look for them. Anything someone can get with a handgun hunting, I can get with my rifle just as easily. If there is a burglary in my house, my 10 gauge has sheer intimidation factor. One fire of a BLANK round will have a suspect s**t his pants, let alone have him give up.

Here's a picture of a similar Remington 10 gauge. Mine looks close, but mine is also an older model.

[thor300]

Cool gun. I once bought a cheap NEF (New England Firearms) 10/3.5" single barrel just for the fun of it, 30" barrel and stuff, SO heavy. Very solid thing, but the rounds was damn expensive. It was no problem to use 12 gauge ammo i found out after a while, so could have some fun with it after all.
Edit: When i think of it, maybe the barrel was 32".

[rallynavvie]

The only 30-30 I ever experienced was my dad's old deer rifle, a Winchester lever-action. That thing kicked like a mule. I'm amazed I never got scope eye firing that thing. We also have a WWI era 30-40 Krag that I inherited from my dad that I use whenever I go rifle hunting with them. I love that crazy box-feed magazine, sometimes rounds go in and sometimes they don't. Fantastic gun when there is one chambered though, and the history behind it is neat. It was my great-grandfather's gun when he was in the Great War. Apparently they're collector's items now. Very cool gun 8)

I reload all my .375 rounds, mostly because I actually save a lot and also because I get supplies from the Federal plant only 10 minutes from me. Federal makes the best loads anyway, I use pretty much a strict diet of their rounds in all the rifles I've owned.

I have to say, of all the firearms makers in the world, H&K is my favorite. If anyone ever asks me which rifle I'd recommend to them for a pseudo-assault rifle I tell them to find an HK91, or even a CETME or FAL clone. MP5s are the absolute shit for subs. I've fired quite a few different H&K models as well as a fuckton of other makes and models and am always impressed by their quality. My first sidearm was a boxed set of WW2 issue Colt 1911 .45s and I loved them, but I've also got a Mk23 USP .45 and wouldn't look at any other handgun other than maybe the new Walther. Just wanted to put my shameless plug in for my fav maker. Now get me that damned GMG I've always wanted to play with!

[Capmaster]

Federal makes the best loads anyway, I use pretty much a strict diet of their rounds in all the rifles I've owned.

True enough for their center-fire ammo. Their rimfire is crap though. Remington and Winchester own that market because their ammo is within spec. for max. bullet diameter.

[rallynavvie]

WTF is rimfire!

[Capmaster]

WTF is rimfire!

Aahhh ...a purist huh?

[gitreel]

I think I would rather shoot a 300 mangum.

[Capmaster]

I think I would rather shoot a 300 mangum.

.308 for me. Superb ballistics and a long reach