Do you believe extraterrestrial life is possible?

[Capmaster]

I want someone to mount a serious, thorough, well-funded search of Mount Ararat. Any wood remains are organic and can therefore be carbon-14 dated easily.

[hech54]

I personally think "we" are someone's Science Experiment gone wrong. They stuck us here and occasionally do some flyovers to laugh at our lack of progress OR our progress in the wrong direction.
If that were the case....that would prove Evolutionists, Creationists and all of the other "ists" WRONG....and I'd have a huge smile on my face...

[smearbrick1]

Living in the US, you can't help being jealous of people in places like Europe. So much history from so long ago. My god, there are cathedrals built in the 1300's or something like that... oldest buildings in the US are mostly only about 300 years old or close to it. And the middle east, Africa, and Asia... just to see some of things built by the hands of men thousands of years ago... must be breathtaking.

[Capmaster]

Living in the US, you can't help being jealous of people in places like Europe. So much history from so long ago. My god, there are cathedrals built in the 1300's or something like that... oldest buildings in the US are mostly only about 300 years old or close to it.

Generally true, but not always.

There's a town 30 miles west of us that's been continuously inhabited since 1150AD:

http://www.puebloofacoma.org/index2.htm

[yoda313]

Hello,

Those are theories...it's easier said than done

Still many unanswered questions though....and they have no proof that wood was available around there at that time.

That's the whole point behind science - theories. Until irrefutable evidence surfaces (such as Caps idea to hunt for wood fragments), we have to base our knowledge on best guesses. These are formed by trial and error and common knowledge of ancient practices.

Theories are constantly being proved wrong or correct all the time. Like the PBS special on how they think they found the location of the actual biblical flood. These historical events are continuosly proved correct or refuted. That's the true nature of science, keep searching for the answer.

Until time travel is invented and proven acceptable we'll never know for certain (only places with a decipherable written language can be understood - except any writings have biases and exaggerations so true historical facts often have SOME errors in them).

Kevin

[smearbrick1]

Dammit!!! I hate mysteries!

[yoda313]

Dammit!!! I hate mysteries!

Hello,
Then what are you doing in this thread? Hmm???
Kevin

[smearbrick1]

I was being facetious.

[yoda313]

Hello,

got it!

Kevin

[Doramius]

If you go to the Myan and Aztec areas you can see buildings and areas that date back earlier than Greece and Rome. There are some human remains that date back possibly during the time of the egyptians. Odd thing is that the ancient societies of great knowledge and wisdom created pyramid-like structures, too. And they also had very similar worship styles.

[Capmaster]

If you go to the Myan and Aztec areas you can see buildings and areas that date back earlier than Greece and Rome. There are some human remains that date back possibly during the time of the egyptians. Odd thing is that the ancient societies of great knowledge and wisdom created pyramid-like structures, too. And they also had very similar worship styles.

Similar structures, but the Mayans used their pyramids as temples, where the Egyptians used theirs as mausoleums.

[Doramius]

Some yes, but they have found burial temples in south America, too. What's fascinating is that the people in South America seemed to have developed faster and smarter than their counterparts across the oceans. However, as time passed they got into a rut without change and progress just stopped, and at that time their overseas counterparts were building boats and canons to cross the sea and still everything the natives owned while single handedly destroying the entire civilization. We better be worried if history repeats itself.

[Capmaster]

What was really sad to me when I was there was the pitiful condition of the Egyptian economy, infrastructure, unemployment, etc.

Egypt led the world in technology, had the first written language, and a history that predates any other. That is until ......the mid 600's AD. Then they started a long stagnation that continues today.

I see several parallels when I watch DS9 and they cover Bajoran history.

[flaninacupboard]

What are you saying? star trek writers simply rip off stories and cultures from real life to emiblish their universe?

I suppose Egypt doesn't have the resources required to fuel an industrial revolution, leaving them stunted as an agricultural people.

[Doramius]

But they knew how to irrigate and cultivate. They did it for thousands of years. Even the Roman's had a huge empire that did extremely well and was greatly advanced. What the heck happened? There was a primary focus that ended up being lost in sight as time passed and the nations crumble while the retards start breeding and take over. I mean look at Rome, Greece, China, Egypt, Mongolia & India. At some point in history, all of these countries had huge impacts on the world technical, mental, and even physical evolution. But they are not considered very advanced societies in today's standards. They aren't at the bottom end, but you'd think such a prospering economy would stick. Even Japan had fallen back for a long time until they decided to kick up on technology. They had to borrow practically all of it at the beginning, but they grew to be known as a technical inovation country and are on the high end of development these days.

[ViRaL1]

Funny to think that it's just a city now.

[MOVIEGEEK]

To think we are the only life in the universe would be ignorant,just as thinking the world is flat or that earth is the center of the universe.
'Cosmos' by Carl Sagan and 'The Measure Of The Universe' by Isaac Asimov are good reads.

[Capmaster]

We only need to gaze out at the heavens to realize how ignorant we are.

Dave Barry used to write in my favorite newspaper. One of my favorite lines of his describes the quandry most non-technical people find themselves in with something as benign as a VCR. Dave is describing the events after opening up his new VCR box and spreading the contents on the floor:

".....I gazed at the owner's manual with the same level of comprehension as a shrimp examining a nuclear submarine."

I feel we are the shrimp as we peer through our primitive telescopes.

[NamPla]

I feel we are the shrimp as we peer through our primitive telescopes.

True. And shrimp are pretty much universally food for everything on this godforsaken planet of ours.

So what does that make us?

We're FOOD for the GODS!

Time to revolt, folks!

[NamPla]

I want someone to mount a serious, thorough, well-funded search of Mount Ararat. Any wood remains are organic and can therefore be carbon-14 dated easily.

BTW, that's been done already & those "wooden" remains (actually just a lump in the ground) have been disproven as remnants of "Noah's Ark". A scientist in Australia took all Christian Churches to court about it, actually - (you gotta google it yourself, sorry) - saying that they are misleading kids etc.

Anyway, Noah's Ark didn't land on Mount Ararat, HA! "Ararat" in ancient times meant something completely different to the Turkish "Mount Ararat" of today.