12 hours per dvd disk?

[tintytinyme]

hi!

any one knows how to configure the settings for burning a dvd with 12 hours of movie or more?

i have a friend did it, i have not get a chance to get the disk yet, otherwise i would know. just curious if anyone one know?

i now can record a dvd at 7 hr and 10 minutes per disk.

doubling can be still troublematic for me right now! help please anyone!!!

thanks in advance if any expert can share!!!

[indolikaa]

Are you talking about a DVD with 12 hours of video that will play on a regular DVD player?

You could probably squeeze that much out of a DVD+R DL disc, but a single-layer DVD±R disc? Not with a bitrate that would be viewable without seizure medicine nearby.

Unless you're talking about KDVD...

[DVD_Ripper]

Maybe at 320x240 or smaller Windows Media Files at 15 fps.... I convert MPEGS down to WMV files for playback on my PPC ... ain't gonna play 'em on a DVD player though... PC only.

[tintytinyme]

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sorry for not knowing kdvd, but my friend is burning a dvd from what we regularly used dvd from curcuit city, and the image is still very clear just like regular VCD's 95% of quality as i was told.

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more comments?

when i get the specification i will post here!

[Treebeard]

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sorry for not knowing kdvd, but my friend is burning a dvd from what we regularly used dvd from curcuit city, and the image is still very clear just like regular VCD's 95% of quality as i was told.

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more comments?

when i get the specification i will post here!

very clear like VCD's??? that the first time I heard that a VCD was very clear, maybe on a 5" TV.

Either you limits of acceptability are extremely low or you watched the disc while on some sort of drug.

if it looks like a VCD then your just wasting time and money on dvd-r's

[DaveS]

nfw you're putting 12 hours onto a single layer 4.7gig dvd to watch on a tv...

what settings are you using for 7 hours?

[Treebeard]

nfw you're putting 12 hours onto a single layer 4.7gig dvd to watch on a tv...

what settings are you using for 7 hours?

you can put 7.2hrs of VCD on DVD. But whats the point!!! if you have a DVD burner your just wasting its capability by making VCD quality crap.

[Sam Ontario]

hi!

any one knows how to configure the settings for burning a dvd with 12 hours of movie or more?

i have a friend did it, i have not get a chance to get the disk yet, otherwise i would know. just curious if anyone one know?

i now can record a dvd at 7 hr and 10 minutes per disk.

doubling can be still troublematic for me right now! help please anyone!!!

thanks in advance if any expert can share!!!

In China, they have put something like over 40 episodes (each has about 30 minutes) on one DVD disc. The DVD disc is only playable on PC using RealOne or Winodw Media Player etc. But I also heard that some DVD players in China can play them, I am not sure. I have quite a few such discs brought back from a friend who has recently been in China.

Edit: I have "SEEN" quite a few such discs ......

[Treebeard]

In China, they have put something like over 40 episodes (each has about 30 minutes) on one DVD disc. The DVD disc is only playable on PC using RealOne or Winodw Media Player etc. But I also heard that some DVD players in China can play them, I am not sure. I have quite a few such discs brought back from a friend who has recently been in China.

Way to go, support piracy!! :P :P

[DaveS]

if you have a DVD burner your just wasting its capability by making VCD quality crap.

that's my opinion .. but hey, if you can get 40 episodes on one disk....now I know why you could only watch it on a pc

[DaveS]

In China, they have put something like over 40 episodes (each has about 30 minutes) on one DVD disc. The DVD disc is only playable on PC using RealOne or Winodw Media Player etc. But I also heard that some DVD players in China can play them, I am not sure. I have quite a few such discs brought back from a friend who has recently been in China.

Way to go, support piracy!! :P :P

you know, if you go downtown in nyc (John st & broadway for all you feds out there), you can get just about any current dvd you want for $10...3 for $25...these guys put there wares (or should I say warez) on a table for all to see almost as if they have vendor permits...I can't figure out why these guys are not cold busted...I have no doubt that there are sweatshop cloning of DVD's going on to feed these guys disks to sell...it's really odd....

[edit: sorry, going OT]

[lenti_75]

what's the point of burning DVD as VCD....????????

unless is a DL, just can't go more than 6 hrs....IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT...


some people are just stupid.....

[Treebeard]

what's the point of burning DVD as VCD....????????

unless is a DL, just can't go more than 6 hrs....IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT...


some people are just stupid.....

Do your math again, you can put 7.28hrs of VCD on 1 DVD-+r media.

but yes it is pointless

[Suntan]

@All
To all you flamers, did you ever stop to think that there are some people on this planet that think backing up a DVD is stupid?

Point being, stop trying to compete with each other to see who can come up with the best insult because somebody wants to cram a lot of video on one DVD. If you can give him pointers then do so, but stop telling him what he is trying is "wrong".

@tintinyme,

If you were to encode with MPEG4 (Xvid for example) at a resolution of 320x240 with Ogg Vorbis 2 channel audio, you could easily get down to about 400MB per hour. The picture quality will be soft, but if you were to watch it on, say a 27" or less TV it wouldn't be too bad. As for the posts above I don't need to add that the quality will not be the same as the source. Also, you will probably need to use a PC to play it back as I am not aware of any settop players that would be able to play this.

-Suntan

[Thomas Davie]

Strictly speaking this does not answer the original poster's question because I am referring to divx, but yes, it is quite possible to get *good* quality video of ~7 hours on a DVD and be able to watch it on a TV (eg, the Phillips DVP642).

But yeah, when I first started making DVDs, I was obsessed with getting as much as I could on a DVD (and I am aware of KVCD and KDVD), and I really didn't see the difference (literally because I was going from VCDs on a CDR to VCDs on a DVD.

For what it's worth; don't bother with more than 4 hours on a DVD unless you're going to go to DivX or Xvid (my opinion only).

Tom

[Sam Ontario]

Do your math again, you can put 7.28hrs of VCD on 1 DVD-+r media.

but yes it is pointless

8VCDs backup in one DVD. Save space and preserve the original VCDs. VCDs are more prompt to damage than DVDs.

[Bearbegr]

what's the point of burning DVD as VCD....????????

unless is a DL, just can't go more than 6 hrs....IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT...


some people are just stupid.....

Do your math again, you can put 7.28hrs of VCD on 1 DVD-+r media.

but yes it is pointless

The point is, that you want to put tv shows on them! If I have a season of shows, I can fit an entire season and still have room on 2 DVDs! Quality is Great for what it is! Plus its way easier! Some people do not have the money to buy dvds all year long. DVD media is not the cheapest, and I can eaither put 4 episodes on it, or 16... Hmm... let me think...

[Sam Ontario]

In China, they have put something like over 40 episodes (each has about 30 minutes) on one DVD disc. The DVD disc is only playable on PC using RealOne or Winodw Media Player etc. But I also heard that some DVD players in China can play them, I am not sure. I have quite a few such discs brought back from a friend who has recently been in China.

Way to go, support piracy!! :P :P

These episodes are TV series! I don't know if you consider recording TV series as piracy. If it is then I trust those who own a VCR or DVD recorder must also supporting piracy.

[Treebeard]

In China, they have put something like over 40 episodes (each has about 30 minutes) on one DVD disc. The DVD disc is only playable on PC using RealOne or Winodw Media Player etc. But I also heard that some DVD players in China can play them, I am not sure. I have quite a few such discs brought back from a friend who has recently been in China.

Way to go, support piracy!! :P :P

These episodes are TV series! I don't know if you consider recording TV series as piracy. If it is then I trust those who own a VCR or DVD recorder must also supporting piracy.

Its piracy when it gets sold to others. Its not if you keeping it in you own collection. Im just razzing you, not flaming you 8)

[tintytinyme]

even though this is going nowhere, but i want to make it clear.

vcd can be very clear too. on a 40 inch television. i am sorry for tht it is truth.

when the vcd is very clear, the converted 7 hour on the dvd will be as clear. well, i understand there's 10x the BETTER quality on a dvd. but if you have vcd and converting to dvd, will it have dvd quality? i do not think so.

the reason i want to have 12 hours on a disc is because i am a store owner, by putting 12 hours on one dvd disk, that would make a sries of movie that in chinese onto one or two dvd Rs, that way i can sell by series and make a owlful lot of money, while the cost is even lower. and the quality is not worse than the original from vcd.
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i understand some of you think vcd is at a crap quality, but it is not if you have the source vcd from original movie factory. if you do buy copy and editing rights, i am pretty sure MOST of the movie you getting at this year on vcd is crystal clear, last year is very clear, and the year before, is still clear, before that not sure.

now, this dvd is not played on pc only, it does play on more than 60% of all dvd players, however, some of the dvd player manufactorer is picky on these dvds because many pc burned dvd-Rs would ruin the drive. so by making it unplayable on these machine is simply one way to protect their machine, in another word, they do not have the capability to make a compatible while lasting machine. its micro technology, so it take time nd money to achieve it.

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now does anyone know the setting for it? the 12 hour on a disk.
i have not get the word from my friend yet! but its on the way!
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by saying selling and on business, that means selling to a lot people, not just couple costumer. that's what a business to achieve. so at least you guys got to trust me it can be kept crystal clear as original when compress from VCD to DVD.

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reason for get a vcd to dvd is not becaue they can gave a better quality but a spacy and collective storage. i do not think you wouldl ike to keep 500 of siries of movie at home, if oyu can keep these 500 dieries of movie onto like 500 dvd movies that would be nice, but if kept like a big box for each one sirie of movie that would be very anoying!!!

[richdvd]

vcd can be very clear too. on a 40 inch television. i am sorry for tht it is truth

LOL...how good are your eyes?

[DaveS]

even though this is going nowhere, but i want to make it clear.

vcd can be very clear too. on a 40 inch television. i am sorry for tht it is truth.

when the vcd is very clear, the converted 7 hour on the dvd will be as clear. well, i understand there's 10x the BETTER quality on a dvd. but if you have vcd and converting to dvd, will it have dvd quality? i do not think so.

the reason i want to have 12 hours on a disc is because i am a store owner, by putting 12 hours on one dvd disk, that would make a sries of movie that in chinese onto one or two dvd Rs, that way i can sell by series and make a owlful lot of money, while the cost is even lower. and the quality is not worse than the original from vcd.
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i understand some of you think vcd is at a crap quality, but it is not if you have the source vcd from original movie factory. if you do buy copy and editing rights, i am pretty sure MOST of the movie you getting at this year on vcd is crystal clear, last year is very clear, and the year before, is still clear, before that not sure.

now, this dvd is not played on pc only, it does play on more than 60% of all dvd players, however, some of the dvd player manufactorer is picky on these dvds because many pc burned dvd-Rs would ruin the drive. so by making it unplayable on these machine is simply one way to protect their machine, in another word, they do not have the capability to make a compatible while lasting machine. its micro technology, so it take time nd money to achieve it.

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now does anyone know the setting for it? the 12 hour on a disk.
i have not get the word from my friend yet! but its on the way!
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by saying selling and on business, that means selling to a lot people, not just couple costumer. that's what a business to achieve. so at least you guys got to trust me it can be kept crystal clear as original when compress from VCD to DVD.

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reason for get a vcd to dvd is not becaue they can gave a better quality but a spacy and collective storage. i do not think you wouldl ike to keep 500 of siries of movie at home, if oyu can keep these 500 dieries of movie onto like 500 dvd movies that would be nice, but if kept like a big box for each one sirie of movie that would be very anoying!!!

just wondering, what country are you in?

[johns0]

To get 12 hours of video on a dvd set bitrate to 700kbps with audio at 128kb,use 352x240/288 variable bitrate at mpg2.

[lordsmurf]

MPEG-2 VBR, but it'll look like crap.

[johns0]

Very true but instead of giving every reason not to do it just give what was asked and let the original poster see with his/her own eyes on the end results.

[seinman]

With my 13" TV and very poor (20-700 without glasses, not quite 20-20 with glasses) eyesight, VCD and DVD look pretty much identical. I've made DVDs at very low bitrates/resolutions, fitting about 8 hours on, and it looked fine to me. On my new (32") TV, though, I can very easily see the quality difference, so I stopped making those and therefore forgot exactly what settings I used. But it certainly can be done.

[daredevil]

to get 12 hours on a dvd, you have to play with tmpeg and try to do the best template you can, I suggest to encode 320*288 or 320*240 (pal or ntsc), mpeg vbr and also the soun bitrate less than 224 Khz(most of the time I encode at 96Khz wich is enough for most of the movies), I have put 7 movies on one dvd (quite good quality but quality is something very personal) with a template I have created.
And it plays on standalone dvd players.

[tintytinyme]

any other settings? cause the setting like that is not gonna gave a clear image, of course i know that.

well for the dimension it will be 768*5++, it have to be, otherwise most of the video pix is gone. (that i would understand why you guys saying is not clear)

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i am at USA, in new york city, flushing, one of the most active area in ny.
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so wht do you guys converting videos for? web sharing or personal collection? or hehe, selling?
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i will try that setting first even though i know it won't gave me the resualt i wanted beside it fit the time

[Garibaldi]

The only way I know, which DOES WORK!!! to put alot of video on a DVD is with TMPGENC. Personally I've only put 12 hour long episodes on a disk, but its not acually 12 hours because I cut the commercials so it figures out to about 42 minutes an episode. The way you do it is in TMPGENC, select the template for DVD NTSC Low resolution. Set the video bitrate of the file to 1800. That is what I used and it allows you to get 12 42 minute episodes on a disk. I'm sure if you lowered the video bitrate even more you could fit more on. I don't have a problem with 1800 bitrate because I'm backing up my VHS and 8 mm tapes which don't have great quality anyway. I hope this helps..

[Capmaster]

One thing you're going to have trying to squeeze anything more than about 2-1/2 hours onto a DVD - MPEG artifacts. It'll depend no how sensitive your eye is to that. For example, my wife is diabolically efficient in pointing out the subtle artifacts in my captures. It may only be leaves in a tree having apparent motion.

On the other hand, I will tolerate much more than she will before I declare something "unwatchable". It's a subjective call and there is no "right" maximum amount of compression. It depends on the subject matter and your personal perception.