Im having trouble

[Antitrust19]

ok first of all i bought this barebone kit from www.tigerdirect.com to play around with. It came with the case,motherboard -socket A, cd-rom drive, keyboard mouse and speakers. I already had a HDD and some DDR RAM. so i put the thing together......like this........I put the HDD in on master, i put the ram in properly.. i put the cpu in and the fan in properly and i plugged everything up. the only problem is when i turn the computer on the fan spins and HDD spins so i know its getting power but nothing is showing up on screen. the only thing i can think off is i got the wrong cpu. this is the exact cpu i got. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=495330. Any ideas i would appreciate since im stuck right now. Thanks, Scott

[gitreel]

I need more info than just the cpu. What motherboard are you using? What ram are you using? Were you using an antistatic wristband? Were you properly grounded. If not, you might have fried something. The ram might not work with the motherboard. The motherboard might be defective. The power supply might be bad.

Do you see what I am getting at? Just the cpu info is not helpful.

[indolikaa]

Some information on your video card would be helpful, too...

[Antitrust19]

ok YES i believe i grounded myself out pretty good, i worked on a kitchen table and no carpet or anything and i have 256 DDR SDRAM, and i dont have a video card in it.


motherboard im using..... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=50369&sku=S450-2031

[Antitrust19]

Oh yeah the powersupply isnt bad cause then the fan wouldnt run or the HDD so im still clueless

[indolikaa]

What bus speed is your DDR RAM?

And did you hook-up the case speaker to your motherboard? The speaker gives what are called POST beeps if there are any POST hardware errors. If there is an error, you will get a beep in a specific pattern...

[Antitrust19]

I dont even have a clue as to what my ram is ...i bought it so long ago its not funny and what kind of patten of beeps should i be listening 2?

[gitreel]

and i dont have a video card in it.

That is why.... You are not getting anything on the screen

[indolikaa]

If you don't know your DDR RAM's bus speed, you've got problems. The bus speed has to match at least the minimum bus speed your motherboard runs. In your case, you have a VIA KT400 Northbridge, which means your DDR RAM has to be able to run at a bus speed of 266 or 333 MHz.

You also have to make sure your processor's FSB matches the FSB setting on your motherboard. Your processor has a Thoroughbred core, so you need to set your motherboard's FSB at 266 MHz.

The RAM is your sticking point. If you don't know the MHz of the RAM and it's not capable of 266MHz, your board won't boot. However, because you're not getting ANY video, I suspect your FSB isn't set to match your processor.

[gitreel]

Indo,

The reason he has no video, is because he doesn't have a video card in the system.

[Antitrust19]

So how do i find out what ram to get and what to set my bus to?

[kyemeng]

Not sure if these links will help.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10296930~mode=flat

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=1345237

[gitreel]

You could look on the ram stick itself. Alot of times, it will say on the board.

[Antitrust19]

Dude i dont need a video card in my system it taken care of by my motherboard....i dont need a graphics card

[mastersmurfie]

and i dont have a video card in it.

what's your monitor hooked to?

[gitreel]

Dude i dont need a video card in my system it taken care of by my motherboard....i dont need a graphics card

Then you have on-board video. It is integrated on the motherboard.

[indolikaa]

Indo,

The reason he has no video, is because he doesn't have a video card in the system.

He's got a Soyo K7VME board, which has an onboard UniChrome GFX video chipset that shares 32MB of the system memory. The default setting for that mainboard is 'Enabled' and sharing 32MB.

It's the worst onboard GPU I've ever come across. I'd rather run a PCI graphics card on that board than use the onboard video. An Apollo SavageIX chipset would be more stable.

So how do i find out what ram to get and what to set my bus to?

You need to purchase/acquire DDR 266MHz (aka DDR PC2100) to run with this mainboard.

As for setting your bus, you need to read the manual on that one. You need to determine if the mainboard automatically detects and presets the processor bus speed, voltages, multipliers and such.

[stiltman]

and i dont have a video card in it.

That is why.... You are not getting anything on the screen

OK I just pissed my shorts

[stiltman]

and i dont have a video card in it.

That is why.... You are not getting anything on the screen

OK I just pissed my shorts

OK, I used my sons wet wipes to clean myself up


DAMN IT TO HELLLL, just pissed myself again!!!!

[gitreel]

and i dont have a video card in it.

That is why.... You are not getting anything on the screen

OK I just pissed my shorts

OK, I used my sons wet wipes to clean myself up


DAMN IT TO HELLLL, just pissed myself again!!!!

Yeah funny aint it. It is integrated on the board, and he says he doesn't have a videocard. If there was truly no videocard, there would be no way to hook your monitor up.

[Antitrust19]

Ok first of all i would like to say that i never said it wasnt onboard i said i dont have a video card/graphics card i thought you would understand that it was built onboard cause i did plug it up you dumbass and anyway i bought some new ram and i still get nothing from my system. i bought the right ram i know.

[stiltman]

Ok first of all i would like to say that i never said it wasnt onboard i said i dont have a video card/graphics card i thought you would understand that it was built onboard cause i did plug it up you dumbass and anyway i bought some new ram and i still get nothing from my system. i bought the right ram i know.

What I would do. Take everything off the motherboard except the processor and the power supply (I would probable lay the motherboard on a piece of foam covered with a antistatic bag. hook up the monitor. make sure the jumper for the BIOS battery is closed. turn on the power supply. Do you get the BIOS screen on the monitor?

Did you change any jumpers on the motherboard from what it originally shipped with? Usually any jumpers are preset if the processor is shipped with the motherboard in a barebones kit.

Back before jumperless MBs, I would say the jumpers are set wrong if it wont post with just the processor. If it does post but doesn't once it's installed in the case, I would look for a MB short or grounding problem

[Antitrust19]

OK man ill try that out for size

[gitreel]

Ok first of all i would like to say that i never said it wasnt onboard i said i dont have a video card/graphics card i thought you would understand that it was built onboard cause i did plug it up you dumbass and anyway i bought some new ram and i still get nothing from my system. i bought the right ram i know.

Whatever.

Let's recap...shall we?

You originally only described the cpu with no other details.


I was originally trying to help. The first thing to do is always eliminate the obvious. You said you had no graphics card. That is what prompted me to say that was why you had no output in the first place. You made an erroneous statement to begin with.

I have heard lots of stuff like a persons computer would not come on when the power was off in their apartment, and a persons internet connection not working because his phone was disconnected.

You do have a graphics card. If you did not have one, you would not be able to connect your monitor.

How many computers have you built?

I am not the dumbass when you don't even know what your bus speed is or what parts you have.

I unlike you am not going to resort to name calling.

I only build, repair, and troubleshoot computers. What the hell do I know?