External HDD storage

[ViRaL1]

Firewire 800 = 100MB/s (theoretical) which is TECHNICALLY less than ATA133. But on the other hand it doesn't have the same overhead as ATA. Not to mention you'd have to be sure you found an enclosuer with a FW800 to ATA133 bridge vs. ATA100. Even then you'd be pushing it. From results I've seen, more people come close to maxing out FW400 than ATA100 or ATA133.

[rallynavvie]

FireWire is in Mbps. Capitalize one letter and it means something totally different, eh? So 1394a is 400 Mbps (not MB/s) and 1394b is 800 Mbps. You can strain the your PCI bus with 1394b if used on a 32-bit PCI slot. I can't recall how to do the math but a 33 Mhz 32-bit PCI slot doesn't have the bandwidth for an 800 Mbps card running all out.

[mujahid7ia]

You know they developed a standard for this:

i think

MiB, mb
GiB, gb

or something

is it still confusion about 1000 bytes or 1024 bytes in a KB?? or should i say KiB?

[ViRaL1]

The standard 32-bit 33MHz PCI bus has a maximum bandwidth of 133MB/sec. That's shared for all devices connected to the PCI bus, including a SCSI PCI card and any other installed PCI cards. Server/Workstation boards come with multiple and higher-bandwidth PCI buses.

PCI32 33MHz = 133MB/s
PCI32 66MHz = 266MB/s
PCI64 33MHz = 266MB/s
PCI64 66MHz = 533MB/s
PCI-X 133MHz = 1066MB/s

full article... http://www.pcvsconsole.com/hank/answer.php?file=512

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Side note: another question from the same site...

Question
I bought a Ge-Force FX 5700LE. My HP computer doesn't have a AGP but I noticed my motherboard has room for installing a AGP slot. Can I get a AGP slot by itself or do I need a whole new Motherboard.

Please Help Me.
Answer
An AGP slot cannot be added to a motherboard. To install an AGP video card, a new motherboard with an AGP slot is required.

There are two recommended solutions.
Buy a new computer with an AGP slot.
Buy a new motherboard with an AGP slot.
The alternative is to suffer with your current video performance.

[ofbarea]

I just order this external enclosure. What do you think?

PLUMAX 3.5" & 5.25" IDE TO USB 2.0 & FIREWIRE EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE ENCLOSURE (OXFORD 911) (PM-525C2-PTS)

It looks OK. Just remember that older Oxford 911 cases will not support disk over 120 GB (With the exception of Maxtor 160 GB). There are some newer 911 cases that support disk over 120 GB, but this fact will be advertised everywhere. Check the firmware of the device. The latest Oxford 911 firmware that I have found is version V3.8 (dated 22-JUL-2003). Please read about it in here:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=691487

Cheap cases tend to have crappy fans. Over time they usually sound like a blender or fail. Even so Small fans are cheaper than the difference in price of more expensive cases.

[stiltman]

I just order this external enclosure. What do you think?

PLUMAX 3.5" & 5.25" IDE TO USB 2.0 & FIREWIRE EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE ENCLOSURE (OXFORD 911) (PM-525C2-PTS)

It looks OK. Just remember that older Oxford 911 cases will not support disk over 120 GB (With the exception of Maxtor 160 GB). There are some newer 911 cases that support disk over 120 GB, but this fact will be advertised everywhere. Check the firmware of the device. The latest Oxford 911 firmware that I have found is version V3.8 (dated 22-JUL-2003). Please read about it in here:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=691487

Cheap cases tend to have crappy fans. Over time they usually sound like a blender or fail. Even so Small fans are cheaper than the difference in price of more expensive cases.

Thanks!

From the link (the picture)
Oxford Semi OXFW911-TQ-A FireWire/IDE bridge
Supports up to 250GB Hard Drives
Supports up to UDMA/133
No Max Hard Drive RPM
Supports High Speed CD-RW & DVD/RW Drives

[ViRaL1]

It's interesting when I see 'supports up to 250GB' in reference to a drive controller. I was under the impression that the next step above 137GB was like 4TB. So it SHOULD support as large a drive as you can afford to put in there.

(go with a 400GB :P )

[stiltman]

It's interesting when I see 'supports up to 250GB' in reference to a drive controller. I was under the impression that the next step above 137GB was like 4TB. So it SHOULD support as large a drive as you can afford to put in there.

(go with a 400GB :P )

Yep I was thinking the same thing. If it can support 250gb, why not 300gb?

Think I'll send them an email

[ViRaL1]

Just so you know, as far as 300GB drives go you have your choice of either Serial ATA (need a different enclosure) or 5400RPM (and 2MB cache I believe). 400GB Hitachi on the other hand is offered in ATA100 or Serial ATA. The bad part is I could never find them on PriceWatch or PriceGrabber, only with Google.

[stiltman]

Just so you know, as far as 300GB drives go you have your choice of either Serial ATA (need a different enclosure) or 5400RPM (and 2MB cache I believe). 400GB Hitachi on the other hand is offered in ATA100 or Serial ATA. The bad part is I could never find them on PriceWatch or PriceGrabber, only with Google.

250gb should be fine for awhile

Current system
(2) intenal Seagate 160gb
(1) external Maxtor 160gb


730gb
I think I need to finish my video editing projects that are on my system now, before I buy anymore storage

I still haven't finished my wedding/honeymoon videos and they take up about 100gb. Been almost a year that they've been on my computer


:edit: come to think about it. When I got this computer 2 years ago, it only came with a 40gb drive

Whole crap load of upgrade to it since then

[ViRaL1]

When it comes to storage, too much is never enough!

[Madz]

I bought one of the ByteCC ME-320U2 enclosures from Newegg a few days ago. Have a spare WD 80GB "SE" drive laying around and no spare IDE hookups inside my case. Just going to be used for extra junk storage (downloads, etc.) so USB 2.0 is fine for me.

[mike1061]

Look at this link, does it help? This looked good to me.
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10328658&adid=17051&dcaid=17051
Thanks Mike

[ofbarea]

Oxford 911 chipset was designed to support ATA-5 devices. That’s why older cases do not support disk over 120GB.

Latest Oxford 911 cases have hardware mods that allow the use of bigger disks, but since the implementation is not originally designed for ATA-6 it may not support huge devices.

Read the following link for more details:
http://www.wiebetech.com/pressreleases/ATA6firewire.htm

[mike1061]

Sorry about the above link (wrong one). I can't find the one I saw before. Here are links to another one that looked good to me. You don't need a case for this just plug it in.

http://www.buy.com/prod/Western_Digital_Special_Edition_200GB_200GB_External_Firewire_.../10346119.html

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=101220-9

Thanks Mike