DVD Writer recommendation

[chobo321321]

A 100 pack of DVD-R e3works from futureshop worked extremely well for me (not 1 coaster), and I use a pioneer 107-d drive

[zleepy]

Just a warning about DVD+Rs, I haven't been able to burn DVD+R with DVD Shrink in my Pioneer 107. I get an error when DVD Shrink is about to close the disc.

Change your burning app.

D'Shrink does not burn discs.
It uses Nero, Decrytper or some other one you have installed.

[RabidDog]

Has anyone, ever, actually burned out a dvd_writer?? How many hours use would it be getting to do this? even a "pro" pirate wouldnt use a drive this much? the only way I see this happening is someone who plays a game (addictively) and the game access's the drive on a regular basis

[sacajaweeda]

I burned out once back when I was in high school. But we didn't even have DVDs back then. Heck CDs had only been out for a couple years. All we had was a boombox, a stack of cassette tapes and a big ass bag of weed.

[chewie8008]

I was lookin at DVD-Roms, to see if I might be better off w/ a faster one... I have the one that came in my PC, that I assume isn't very fast. But I see some on pricewatch for like $29...lol What is a realistic price for a pretty good DVD ROM?

[chas0039]

If you are looking for a fast reader for DVD rips check out this site:

http://codeguys.rpc1.org/firmwares.html

to make sure you get one that will have a hacked firmware available to remove the factory speed limit or check elsewhere to make sure if the one you want has no limit on reads (most do).

I have had great sucess with the Liteon 167T and you can do a lot worse than NewEgg.com.

[chas0039]

Has anyone, ever, actually burned out a dvd_writer?? How many hours use would it be getting to do this? even a "pro" pirate wouldnt use a drive this much? the only way I see this happening is someone who plays a game (addictively) and the game access's the drive on a regular basis

Some other site had a guy who had gone through quite a few and his general opinion was that they tend to last 15,000 hours or so.

[chewie8008]

I have had great sucess with the Liteon 169T and you can do a lot worse than NewEgg.com.

Why can't I find this one anywhere? Did you mean 167T??? I have looked everywhere I know to look and have seen no mention of the 169T...

Would I be able to tell a big difference between the rip speed of my OEM DVDROM and say, the 167T?

[chas0039]

I have had great sucess with the Liteon 169T and you can do a lot worse than NewEgg.com.

Why can't I find this one anywhere? Did you mean 167T??? I have looked everywhere I know to look and have seen no mention of the 169T...

Would I be able to tell a big difference between the rip speed of my OEM DVDROM and say, the 167T?

Very sorry!! my mistake. I meant the 167T. As to the difference it depends on the drive you have. All I can tell you is that most drives are limited to 5-6X and the unlimited ones are at 8X. The firmware hack mentioned above allows me to read a DL disc up to 10X and a SL disc at around 13X. The only real improvement is to go from 8X to 10X as the Liteon 167T is already unlimited. Given that they all run around $30 it was an obvious choice.

[chewie8008]

Ok cool. Well, i'm wondering approx. how long it takes to RIP a disc w/ the 167T. Cause i've ripped one w/ my OEM and it takes around 1hr to 1hr 15ish...

This is what I was looking at...

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?DEPA=0&description=27-131-118&CMP=OTC-pr...ATT=DVD+Drives

[chewie8008]

Well, I got the 107D today. Soon as I got it I installed it then realized I had just replaced the OEM DVD ROM w/ the DVD RW instead of the CDRW. So then I took the 107D back out, pulled out the CDRW and replaced it w/ the 107D. Then put the OEM DVD ROM back in it's original spot. I made sure not to get any wires/plugs mixed up. And then of course, I boot it up and it says that something may have not been installed properly and may not work. To no suprise, I go to the drives, and 3.5A is the only drive listed...

Any ideas what the problem could be? I couldn't figure out why there are 3 power plugs for the drives. There were the two plugs that were in the original drives(labeled, P4 and P5), but then there was one extra plug that was never plugged into anything(labeled P2). So I just went ahead and used the original plugs and left the one unplugged.

I know when I originally installed it in place of the DVDROM it was working properly. Because I booted up the computer and everything was going good. Then I realized I had switched out the wrong one. And so I switched them out, same way I did before and of course it won't work.

Hit me back, thanks guys! I'm going to try to reboot and if that doesn't work, i'm going to open it back up for the 3rd time and check everything.

[chas0039]

Ok cool. Well, i'm wondering approx. how long it takes to RIP a disc w/ the 167T. Cause i've ripped one w/ my OEM and it takes around 1hr to 1hr 15ish...

This is what I was looking at...

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?DEPA=0&description=27-131-118&CMP=OTC-pr...ATT=DVD+Drives

It depends on the size and your computer but I get through most in about 12-14 minutes. Also that is the correct drive in your link and you will need the firmware update from here: http://codeguys.rpc1.org/firmwares.html

You want the "9S15" patch. Make sure you are comfortable flashing firmware as it voids your warranty and can render your drive unusable if you make an error.

As to your install problems: anyone here will need to know what computer system you have and what version of windows you are using. I would say this. You don't need to have all your power connectors hooked up. There can be extras. You should install everything back where it was first and make sure that works. You most likely need to get into your BIOS setup screen so that it can identify your new hardware first and then it should transmit that information to Windows. Windows needs no special drivers to work with an optical drive so it would seem to me that your BIOS is the culprit. When you get to the BIOS screen they are different so you want to look at what is connected to the IDE connections and get the bios to recognize the new drives and then save and re-boot.

[chewie8008]

It's a Compaq Presio 6010 AMD Athlon 1600 1.4Ghz 224MB

I went into Bios and it seems to have the Pioneer listed like it's working. Whenever it boots up, it takes a really really long time at the boot up screen. Then when I get to my desktop I get like 4 messages saying my printer has been found as new hardware. Then it comes up saying that it can't find some file for the printer...which i'm not even trying to use the printer, so i'm not sure what's up w/ that. Guess i'll pull them both back out tonight when I get off work and see if it'll work like it was originally setup. I actually took some pictures of how I have them hooked up(which, I don't see how they could be hooked up wrong because, there is only like 4 frickin wires). So if that could help...

Thanks

[chas0039]

It's a Compaq Presio 6010 AMD Athlon 1600 1.4Ghz 224MB

I went into Bios and it seems to have the Pioneer listed like it's working. Whenever it boots up, it takes a really really long time at the boot up screen. Then when I get to my desktop I get like 4 messages saying my printer has been found as new hardware. Then it comes up saying that it can't find some file for the printer...which i'm not even trying to use the printer, so i'm not sure what's up w/ that. Guess i'll pull them both back out tonight when I get off work and see if it'll work like it was originally setup. I actually took some pictures of how I have them hooked up(which, I don't see how they could be hooked up wrong because, there is only like 4 frickin wires). So if that could help...

Thanks

Which version of Windows do you have? Also I have seen long boot times when there is some hardware conflict so make sure you have your IDE cable connected correctly and make sure the drive at the end is set for "master" and the next one on the chain set for "slave". Your BIOS should have an auto setting for IDE connections and this should allow you to automatically detect new hardware so my guess is the jumpers on the drive are wrong. Also, the general opinion here seems to be to set the Pioneer at the end as Master.

One last thing before you spend more money on the Liteon 167T. The Pioneer, even with the limiter will rip at 6X which translates into about 17-19 minutes. If this isn't fast enough for you you need the Liteon. Also with your rip times it makes me think that you might need to check your drive settings in the device manager and make sure that "enable DMA" is checked. This will be different depending on what version of Windows you have.

[chewie8008]

Sorry, I completely forgot...I have XP. Yeah, I talked to my friend(who recently had installed a DVDRW) and he was telling me about the Master/CS/Slave thing. However, he has his set on Cable Select(but also has a different DVDRW), so he told me to set it to that(which I just did like 5 minutes ago) and it detected the hardware. But now it still says there is a problem w/ the hardware. I'm not sure how I could have the IDE hooked up wrong...it just plugs straight in... I guess i'm gonna open it back up and try setting the Pioneer to Master instead of Cable Select.

About the Liteon, someone told me(or maybe I misunderstood) that you can burn the writer up quick by using it to rip and burn. But I also see in this post about it taking a ridiculous amount of use to burn one up. So I think 17-19 mins is fine w/ me. I'll check the device manager for DMA.

Thanks!!!

[budz]

make sure you use a good 40 or 80 pin ide cable to hook up your drive. you may want to try another ide cable to hook up the drive.

[chewie8008]

Geez, i'm a moron, NM. LOL

I used DVD Shrink the write the disc Then after I posted this I remembered that someone had mentioned something about not using it to write, lol.

Someone suggested using DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter to make backups. If DVD Decrypter is used to rip the files to the HD, what is DVD Shrink for?

Can someone just recommend a good free prog to burn the discs? I looked here, but am uncertain of the reliability of them...

https://www.videohelp.com/tools?s=16#16

Thanks guys...

BTW, I got the setup working. Set the 107D to Master and the DVDROM to Slave.

[chewie8008]

Cmon, I know you guys have programs, just give me a name. I am goin crazy over here. First I find out that Shink doesn't work, then find out Nero doesn't work w/o 'nerovisio' wtfever that is. Now I go and download a random burner from the tools section 'burnatonce' and find out it doesn't burn DVD+R, which is of course, what I have. I don't want to waste any more DVDR's and can't keep DLing nonworking burners, I am on dialup and it takes 20 frickin mins to DL 4MB. Then I check DVD Decrypter and it won't work either, or maybe i'm doin something wrong. It looks like you can burn them, but then when I try to select the files to burn, it's like the formats are supported...

I'd appreciate all help guys. I'm about to resort to DVDX or whatever it's called.

[chobo321321]

Use Nero Burning Rom v 6.0.0.2.3 (buy it or get it of p2p). As for the third plug on the DVD drive it's what pioneer uses to test the drive, and is useless to you, so don't worry about it.

Some other Burning programs (not free ones) are:

Roxio
and Thats all I can think of... sorry

I've been using nero for about half a year, and have had no problems with the 107D, and the version I mentioned. If you haven't tried it give it a shot.

[b]***Oh, and don't forget to update your firmware on the 107D (THere is a night and day difference)***

I think I'm using firmware 1.16, or higher

One more tip If possible put your DVD burner on an IDE channel by itself, and set it as master. Otherwise, pair it up with another DVD or CD drive, and set it to master.

[chewie8008]

Guess i'm using DVD X Rescue. Cause apparently there aren't any others that don't cost $$$. I've been looking for 2 @#$%^#$^@#$%#$ hours and there is a catch to every single one of them. Either it costs, or doesn't burn DVDRs, or doesn't burn DVD-Rs or has to have this and that program to run w/ which costs.

Tried p2p, picked up a nice little virus, that's about it. One shtty day.

[chobo321321]

Sorry to hear that

[budz]

Someone suggested using DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter to make backups. If DVD Decrypter is used to rip the files to the HD, what is DVD Shrink for?

DVD SHRINK is used to compress a dual layer dvd which is a DVD9 so it can fit on a single layer dvd which is a DVD5. Download a trial version of NERO BURN. If you bought a OEM PIONEER 107D drive it should have come with a NERO BURN CD that can only work with that specific drive.

chobo321321 wrote:

Use Nero Burning Rom v 6.0.0.2.3 (buy it or get it of p2p). As for the third plug on the DVD drive it's what pioneer uses to test the drive, and is useless to you, so don't worry about it.

using a p2p would be considered talking about warez. best you read the forum rules.

[chewie8008]

Couldn't find a link to get the trial version of Nero. I bought an OEM 107D, but received no such disc. I was just about to DL the trial version of clonecd. I'll check again for the Nero link..

Thanks.

Sorry about the p2p talk.

[budz]

here's a link for a download trial version for NERO BURN.

http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/Nero-6-Ultra-Edition/3000-2646-10300178.html?tag=lst-0-1

[chewie8008]

Ok, got it all working. I just DL'd the trial version of CloneCD, which seems like a pretty cool program.

I didn't see where to 'enable DMA'. The only thing I found was under like IDE controllers it was already set to 'Transfer Mode: DMA if available'. So I assume that's what you were talking about.

I appreciate everyone's help and think I have the very basics down. Good enough to make the backups anyways.

Thanks again!!!

[chewie8008]

You guys heard of K Hypermedia DVD+R? That's the first ones I bought(friend got them at OfficeMax). Just got them for a temp fix until I could order a large pack of 100 or so. But i've been using them and have made 12 backups and not a single error... They're $9.99 for 25, so x4 to make it 100 DVD+R for like $43. I'm thinking of just buying them again...

I never did find how to enable DMA...