DOOM 3 is on its way

[spiderman2k1]

I was just think again. I really do not think it's worth upgrading until PCI express come's out. If you are going to upgrade do it for cheep. Right now I have a AMD 1.8 and I can get a 2.4 or 2.6 for 50 to 70 dollars. And a video card for $100.00 or so. Then do a bigger upgrade next year when PCI express is already out.

[ViRaL1]

It's out but it's still fairly expensive for a good mobo and video card.

[chas0039]

Anyone taking bets on how long before the first patch is out?

[satviewer2000]

I can tell you right now that Doom III has been a tremendous disappointment for me. I run a P4-2.4GHz with 64M nVidia card and have 1.5Gigs of RAM. I can run Unreal II, Far Cry, Max Payne 2, Hitman Contracts, Quake III, and any other FPS game at 1024x768 or better resolution with almost every setting turned on and the action is smooth.

Well, with Doom III, even running at 640x480 and almost every setting turned to "low end machine", the game still drags, is choppy, and is just barely playable. It's also so dark that even with gamma set to max, and my monitor set to max brightness, I can barely make out what's going on.

I think I'll just put this away for a year or two, wait for my P5-4.0GHz machine with 512 Meg videocard and then try it again. I will bet that 80% of users who buy the game will be just as disappointed as I was.

[lacywest]

I might just wake until Doom 3 for X-box. Then i do not have toi go out and buy new video card new CPU and other stuff. I my is AMPD 1.8XP not bad but not top of the line. I also heard far cry is a killer game. I like PC game's but one thing I hate upgrading and install window's. ANd setting driver's.

Dude ... are you feeling okay ?? ... your spelling is terrible ... I had to read each sentence and reassemble the words ... to figure out what you were saying.

I caught your drift ... tho.

[lacywest]

I was just thing again. I really do not think it's worth upgrading until PCI express come's out. If you are going to upgrade do it for cheep. Right now I hae a AMD 1.8 and I can get a 22.4 or 2.6 for 50 to 70 dollars. And a video card for $100.00 or so. Then do a bigger upgrade next year when PCI express is already out.

What is PCI express ???

[dosun]

I can tell you right now that Doom III has been a tremendous disappointment for me. I run a P4-2.4GHz with 64M nVidia card and have 1.5Gigs of RAM. I can run Unreal II, Far Cry, Max Payne 2, Hitman Contracts, Quake III, and any other FPS game at 1024x768 or better resolution with almost every setting turned on and the action is smooth.

I think its your video card. You mind explaining what type of 64m nvidia video card it is? If you spend 200 on an Ati 9800, you'd see significant improvements. If you want a free boast right now, just oc your processor. P4's oc quite easily.

[HAMP]

lacywest Wrote:

Dude ... are you feeling okay ?? ... your spelling is terrible

hahahaha, I tried and got a headache myself but I think I got it!!

satviewer2000 Wrote:

Well, with Doom III, even running at 640x480 and almost every setting turned to "low end machine", the game still drags, is choppy, and is just barely playable

I have mine set to 1024x768, and mine runs real smooth, not choppy at all. You are right the game is rather dark, but I havn't messed with any gamma settings I just figured thats how they wanted it to look, to have a nice scare to the game, I only play it at night with all the lights turned out to get a good feel for the game!

Only thing that had me about the game is, when I got to a locked locker and it said to visit a webpage(cant think of the name), I was guessing it was a silly little something.com just in the game, but they really wanted you to visit that webpage to get the code to open that locker, What if someone didnt have internet connection

[IAIHMB]

Anyone taking bets on how long before the first patch is out?

I know of 3 fixes that are already out:
-CD Key Generator
-No CD Patch
-Online Server Crack

This is one of the only times I am a fan of piracy. I think of it as try before you buy, and I will be buying this game. I like the idea of demos, but the Painkiller demo was nothing like the game.

As for the game, it is great, but there is one thing I don't understand. Far Cry and Doom 3 are suppose to be a part of the next generation of games. Far cry is older than Doom 3, but I can use higher settings on Doom 3 than I can Far Cry.

[spiderman2k1]

"lacywest" I wrote the pst at 3AM was not think that well. I have over 1000 post the spelling is fine in those post.

PCI EXPRESS there going back to PCI and dropping AGP. Why with PCI you can install two video card's with PCI. Like in the old day's with with Voodoo 2. People would install to 3DFX card's. Making one card draw half the screen and the other card drawing the other half of the screen.

[yoda313]

Hello,

[quote] spiderman2k1-
I might just wait until Doom 3 for X-box. Then i do not have to go out and buy a new video card new CPU and other stuff.
[quote]

Ditto here. I know my amd 850mhz AIN'T gonna cut it. I'll upgrade my pc sometime soon but that's why I bought the xbox, so I don't have to just for games
Kevin

[spiderman2k1]

Ditto here. I know my amd 850mhz AIN'T gonna cut it. I'll upgrade my pc sometime soon but that's why I bought the xbox, so I don't have to just for games smile.gif
Kevin

"yoda313" you have to [quote] for it to be high light in white. let me know if you want to play on xbox live.

[Treebeard]

"lacywest" I wrote the pst at 3AM was not think that well. I have over 1000 post the spelling is fine in those post.

PCI EXPRESS there going back to PCI and dropping AGP. Why with PCI you can install two video card's with PCI. Like in the old day's with with Voodoo 2. People would install to 3DFX card's. Making one card draw half the screen and the other card drawing the other half of the screen.

Info about two video cards on PCI Express
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040628/index.html

[yoda313]

Hello,
spiderman2k1- Thanks for the quote tip. I was deleting things and it got messed up. Sorry, I don't have broadband - another upgrade I'd like to do in the future.
Kevin

[spiderman2k1]

"Treebeard" look's cool the only thing I do not like about it is that these card's take up to much space on the mother board. Those coolling fan's are huge. If PC gaming get to the point where it need's two video card's to run high end game's this is not good but if the extra video card give little extra jump then PC gaming will be fine. Just do not see some people giving up PCI slot's. That are not hard core gamer's.

[Treebeard]

Doom 3 is Reviewed.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/doom3/review.html

[offline]

PCI Express and SLI is just more of the same hype we have
all seen before with "MMX", "AGP" and "SLI" capable Voodoo2.

[ViRaL1]

Are you saying SLI with the old Voodoo cards was just hype?

[offline]

Are you saying SLI with the old Voodoo cards was just hype?

Mostly yes. I ran two Voodoo 2's with 16 meg each at SLI. Apart from being
able to run a couple of games at 1024x768 and a few fps increase
in Quake there was nothing to speak of in terms of the real world
performance. Similar story between AGP 1x and 8x.

[dun4cheap]

Well I have not tried the Doom3 yet, it looks appealing though. As for the PCI Express, I would definately wait for this technology. The bandwidth increase for future generation cards will be worth the wait. Plus the new abilities to video edit Hidef Video using the pci express has been long waited for.

[ViRaL1]

Speaking of PCI Express, isn't it funny how the PC industry flip flops back and forth with technology? First, serial ports were fast, then parallel ports were faster, then came USB a serial bus that's even faster. Now Serial ATA is faster than parallel ATA. SATA is ready for more improvements, will parallel ATA have an upgrade, or a second coming? ISA was slow, but PCI was faster, then PCI wasn't fast enough so Intel created AGP, then AGP wasn't fast enough, so they went to PCI Express. Where's Super Enhanced High Speed, Quad Data Rate Microchannel when we need it?

[yoda313]

Hello,

ViRaL1-Where's Super Enhanced High Speed, Quad Data Rate Microchannel when we need it?

Cute! Guess I'm not alone when it comes to not being able to keep up with the latest stuff (ie pricey). Oh well, the good thing is the midrange stuff that's perfectly fine gets dirt cheap when the big stuff rolls out
Kevin

[spiderman2k1]

One of the reason Doom 3 need's so much power. ID know's they need a very strong engine so they can sell it to other companies that want to make game's. ID is also working on a brand new title. This Doom 3 engine will last a good four more years before ID make's a new engine. Any new game's that use Doom 3 engine. Will take One and half or twice the hit on your CPU and Video card.

[FulciLives]

Are you saying SLI with the old Voodoo cards was just hype?

Mostly yes. I ran two Voodoo 2's with 16 meg each at SLI. Apart from being
able to run a couple of games at 1024x768 and a few fps increase
in Quake there was nothing to speak of in terms of the real world
performance. Similar story between AGP 1x and 8x.

I had two Voodoo 2 cards in SLI on a PII 233Mhz I think it was and I noticed a big improvement when playing QUAKE II for instance.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[offline]

I had two Voodoo 2 cards in SLI on a PII 233Mhz I think it was and I noticed a big improvement when playing QUAKE II for instance.

You would have. The PII 233 was a dog, slower in Q2 than
the p1 200 MMX. This is similar to the "real world" speed disparity
seen between the high end p3 and the early P4 cpu's.

Anyone wonder why Intel change their speed index prior to
every new generation cpu and AMD change their reference
points when allocating +Mhz ratings?

[Nilfennasion]

If they do bring out Doom 3 on the X-Box, it will be the first time since Halo that there has been a game worth playing on the damned thing. I gave up in frustration and sold my X-Box simply because I got sick of waiting for a game to come out that didn't feel rigged or boring. If there were a second-hand place of decent quality near where I live, I'd go buy a PS2 and the Resident Evil series.

[spiderman2k1]

"Nilfennasion" Resident Evil is really for Gamecub capcom is make almost all the Resident Evil for Gamecub only

[dosun]

"Nilfennasion" Resident Evil is really for Gamecub capcom is make almost all the Resident Evil for Gamecub only

Actually PS2 has the majority of the Resident Evil games.

[FulciLives]

"Nilfennasion" Resident Evil is really for Gamecub capcom is make almost all the Resident Evil for Gamecub only

Actually PS2 has the majority of the Resident Evil games.

Nintendo GAMECUBE has:

1.) RESIDENT EVIL 1 with retooled ubber awesome graphics ... exclusive to GAMECUBE. Totally blows away the PSOne version.
2.) RESIDENT EVIL 0 with same ubber awesome graphics engine as above ... exclusive to GAMECUBE.
3.) RESIDENT EVIL 2 and RESIDENT EVIL 3 with higher quality graphics than the PSOne versions ... basically a port of the DREAMCAST versions. No enhanced PS2 versions of these titles.
4.) The next official RESIDENT EVIL game in the series proper will be exclusive to GAMECUBE.

So really the only thing the PS2 and GAMECUBE share is that both have RESIDENT EVIL 4 in about the same level of quality (DREAMCAST port version).

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Capmaster]

Got the PC version of Doom3 this week and was immediately disappointed. It's a bloated resource hog. Granted the graphics are superb, but even the lowest quality setting is too taxing. I would have liked to see 2 settings below the current lowest setting.

And ...why didn't they build in game pad support? Not everybody uses the mouse and keyboard And Gravis game pads have been out for, what, 10 years? So far I can't find any way to use my Gamepad Pro with it.

I uninstalled it the day after I got it :P Nice try ID Software, but definitely disappointing after waiting 10 years for the next Doom installment