Having some fun with fraud!!

[beavereater]

Some recent posts I've read here, and on a couple other forums, about scammers beings scammed!! I just got this in the mail and was wondering if the good people at videohelp wanted to have some fun:

FROM: THE LOTTERY COORDINATOR,
INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT


DEAR SIR/MADAM,

RESULTS FOR THIRD CATEGORY DRAWS

PROTEA GAMES SOUTH AFRICA wishes to inform you of the
results of It'S Promotional draws held on the 3RD JULY
2004. We are happy to officially inform you that you
have emerged a winner under our Third Category Draws,
which is part of our promotional draws.


Participants
were selected through a computer ballot system drawn
from 40,000 names/email addresses of individuals and
companies from Africa, America, Asia, Australia,
Canada, Europe, Middle East, and New Zealand as part
of our International Promotions Program.

You/Your company, attached to ticket number 01-87-436,
with serial number 61-217 drew the lucky numbers 06,
08, 28, 29, 36, 44, 47 (31) and consequently won in the
Third Category.

You have therefore been awarded a lump sum pay out of
US$2,500,000.00 (Two Million Five Hundred Thousand
United States Dollars) in cash, which is the winning
payout for Third Category winners. This is from the
total prize money of US$12,500,000.00 shared between 5
international winners in the Third category.


CONGRATULATIONS!


Your fund is now deposited with INTERSCOPE FINANCE
GROUP insured in your name. In your best interest and
also to avoid mix up of numbers and names of any kind,
we request that you keep the entire details of your
award strictly from public notice until the process of
transferring your claims has been completed, and your
funds remitted to your account. This is part of our
security protocol to avoid double claiming or
unscrupulous acts by participants/nonparticipants of
this program.

We also wish to bring to your notice our end of year
(2004) high stakes where you stand a chance of winning
up to US$10.5 Million, we hope that with a part of
your prize you will participate.

Please contact your claims agent immediately, to begin
your claims process;

MR. PAUL PRESCOTT,
FOREIGN DEPARTMENT MANAGER,
INTERSCOPE FINANCE GROUP.
TEL/FAX: +27 828675346
EMAIL: pprescott2@ifgsouthafrica.com



For due processing and remittance of your prize money
to a designated account of your choice.

Remember, you must contact your claim agent not later
than one week. After this date, all funds will
be returned as unclaimed.

NOTE: For easy reference and identification, Find
below your reference and Batch numbers, remember to
quote these numbers in every one of your
correspondence with your claims agent.

REFERENCE NUMBER: PG3-B2
BATCH NUMBER: GBH-2


Congratulations once again from all our staff and
thank you for being part of our promotions program.


Sincerely,

LOTTERY COORDINATOR
PROTEA GAMES SOUTH AFRICA
65 Everson Street,
Linden - 2104,
Johannesburg,
South Africa.
TEL/FAX: +27 823622669


N.B. Any breach of confidentiality on the part of the
winners will result to disqualification. Please do not
reply to this mail. Contact your claims agent.(TERMS
AND CONDITIONS APPLY)

[DVD_Ripper]

Would you want to go into a bank and create an new account with no ties to any other account.

Call the company and provide them the account number and bank number and see what happens....

They can't get your SS number from the bank. The only thing they would have would be a empty account.... could they then open other accounts charging to that account? not sure....

Beaver... do it

[tweedledee]

What they do is to try and get you to pay a "fee" for something like tax, or service. This fee starts off small and if they think you're hooked they add further fees and charges till they think you have gone as far as you can go, then they pull the money and run. Most people gullible enough to respond to the email will pay some money if they think a few million will result.

[DVD_Ripper]

What they do is to try and get you to pay a "fee" for something like tax, or service. This fee starts off small and if they think you're hooked they add further fees and charges till they think you have gone as far as you can go, then they pull the money and run. Most people gullible enough to respond to the email will pay some money if they think a few million will result.

Wow... excellent scam... I guess I would drop off within the first 10 minutes then.

[tekkieman]

I would refer them back to their own words:

....we hope that with a part of
your prize you will participate.

Why yes! Once my $2.5M is transferred, less fees which you may deduct from the 2.5M, and I have cleared it from this temporary account, I would be more than happy.....

For the large list of countries in the email, why would they be dealing in U.S. dollars?

[The village idiot]

Contact them and see if the email is real Then find out if there is a free net/email to fax service in that area, and contact them that way too

Then anyone that wants to can flood 2 sources, just for fun Image coming in to your scam office and finding that the fax machine has spit out 500 pages that say: "YOU SUCK GOAT DICK!" that can't be traced. Maybe a black page with white letters would be best. See if they have a website that can be looked at

[beavereater]

I opened an new email account, under a womens name. I figure chicks are more gulibal (SP?) Anyway, I meant to save the message so I could post it, but I forgot to. I will from now on though. I planned to be more funny abou it!! At this point they just know I am interested, and I requested more info on how to get the winnings that would make my life so much easier...

However, in future emails, I plan to give in that I am actually a female porn star in Japan, in my early 50s and that the film industry is tough after all my hard HARD work. Anyway, if you have any ideas from here on in how to get things going to make this fun, just let me know.

As far as getting an account, if I get an answer, I will go to the bank across the street and set something up. Then, make sure I am safe MONEY WISE on this end. See what happens.

Anyway, Ive see a couple different people do the same thing, one with an APPLE PC scam, the other with a similar financial thing. Just wanna have my own day to day fun. Anybody wanna enjoy with me, please give tips.

[thecoalman]

Is this the apple pc scam your talking about http://69.93.112.102/~pbook/ If so that was one of the funnies things I ever read on the internet.

Let me think for awhile maybe I can come up with some ideas, would be quite fun. Scamming the scammer.

[thecoalman]

Here's the whois info on ifgsouthafrica.com Anyone ion Cali? Could be bogus info,

Edit: Probably is I just did a name search, only one result for california in San Diego and only 10 nationwide. This info is supposed to be correct, if not that's grounds for loss of registration. You could file a complaint with MS since the are the registrar. May have to do it through ICANN or somewhere else. Anyway loss of a name isn't going to mean anything anyway.

Registration Service Provided By: Microsoft
Contact: pdbeta@microsoft.com
Visit: http://support.msn.com/contactus.aspx?pk=PersonalAddress

Domain name: IFGSOUTHAFRICA.COM

Registrant Contact:
Williams Hober
Williams Hober (admin@ifgsouthafrica.com)
+1.8184152822
Fax: none
3172 kttirigde street
North Hollywood, CA 91304
US

Administrative Contact:
Williams Hober
Williams Hober (admin@ifgsouthafrica.com)
+1.8184152822
Fax: none
3172 kttirigde street
North Hollywood, CA 91304
US

Technical Contact:
NOC MSN
NOC MSN (MSN-PA-TECH@msn.com)
+1.4258828080
Fax: none
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052
US

Billing Contact:
NOC MSN
NOC MSN (MSN-PA-BILL@MSN.COM)
+1.4258828080
Fax: none
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
pdomns1.msn.com
pdomns2.msn.com

Creation date: 25 Jul 2004 13:08:22
Expiration date: 25 Jul 2005 13:08:22

[handyguy]

Funny. ALthough we don't need all that info,
Registrant Contact:
Williams Hober
Williams Hober (admin@ifgsouthafrica.com)
+1.8184152822
Fax: none
3172 kttirigde street
North Hollywood, CA 91304
US

Would suffice. Guy is so cheap he did not pay so that his personal info was private.

[thecoalman]

Would suffice. Guy is so cheap he did not pay so that his personal info was private.

Well like I said it's probably bogus info, Mr. Hober may even be a victim. The only thing you need to register a website is a credit card.

Beavereater,

Do you still have the original e-mail. Maybe someone could decipher the header if it wasn't faked.

[thayne]

If this idiot is really in the US, just contact the FBI and they will go after him....

[beavereater]

I do still have the original info...just let me know where to send it. I will keep everyone posted if there is a reply. If you want the original message, just tell me where to forward it!!

[thecoalman]

Email me the message but as an attacment don't forward it. My address is up top of the posts. I can look I know a little but not much.

[DVD_Ripper]

Is this the apple pc scam your talking about http://69.93.112.102/~pbook/ If so that was one of the funnies things I ever read on the internet.

Let me think for awhile maybe I can come up with some ideas, would be quite fun. Scamming the scammer.

That was some awesome reading

[Treebeard]

Is this the apple pc scam your talking about http://69.93.112.102/~pbook/ If so that was one of the funnies things I ever read on the internet.

Let me think for awhile maybe I can come up with some ideas, would be quite fun. Scamming the scammer.

That was some awesome reading

Was very long but well worth the laughs.

[thecoalman]

[quote="DVD_Ripper"
That was some awesome reading
[/quote]

Yep, I read the netire thing and was wishing there was more. Could you imagine the look on the guys face when he got it!

[DVD_Ripper]

Is this the apple pc scam your talking about http://69.93.112.102/~pbook/ If so that was one of the funnies things I ever read on the internet.

Let me think for awhile maybe I can come up with some ideas, would be quite fun. Scamming the scammer.

That was some awesome reading

Was very long but well worth the laughs.

You wonder how many 'trusting' people get ripped off every single day from slime balls like the one we read about .... ore the ones in this thread.... Beaver... kick their asses...

[devinemi83]

Why would someone fall for this? Common sense would say if it was a real lottery that they would take the "fees" or taxes OUT OF the winnings, not pay them before hand. Thats like when they have lottos here in the US and you win 100Million, saying you have to come up with 25Mil to pay off the taxes on it before you could claim it. LOL

[thayne]

You guys won't believe this one!

I guy I work with has been chatting with some chick from africa. She want's to come here to visit him. Anyway, I don't really understand the reasoning, but she had her father (who is in Germany) mail my buddy a cashiers check for $4800. She wants him to cash it and wire her the money so she can buy a plane ticket. I shit you not, he got the check today, went down to the bank and cashed it! It's real! I saw the check and the cash!

He says he's going to send her the money, but he could easily just keep it!

[tekkieman]

This oughtta get interesting.......

[thayne]

I'm dumb founded. It just doesn't make sense to me at all. I don't really see an angle for a scam, as she sent him the money.....

Maybe she's a gazillionair and is just testing his character?
Maybe she's using him to launder money?
Maybe she's just naive?

Who knows....

[tweedledee]

Maybe setting him up for a sting.

[stiltman]

Maybe setting him up for a sting.

Using 4800 of her own money? I think not!
Scamming the guy who sent him the check? Bullseye

[devinemi83]

I'm dumb founded. It just doesn't make sense to me at all. I don't really see an angle for a scam, as she sent him the money.....

Maybe she's a gazillionair and is just testing his character?
Maybe she's using him to launder money?
Maybe she's just naive?

Who knows....

I know theres an ebay scam like this.


You sell an item for 500.00 but the buyer sends a check for 1000.00 by mistake, you are asked to please send a check back for the overpayments(sounds cool right?) and that will correct the error. Well the check they send you takes a while to clear and while you wait they get a good 500.00 check from you. But after about a week you get told by the bank "The checks no good". Then you are out 500.00 and the item.

[thayne]

I'm dumb founded. It just doesn't make sense to me at all. I don't really see an angle for a scam, as she sent him the money.....

Maybe she's a gazillionair and is just testing his character?
Maybe she's using him to launder money?
Maybe she's just naive?

Who knows....

I know theres an ebay scam like this.


You sell an item for 500.00 but the buyer sends a check for 1000.00 by mistake, you are asked to please send a check back for the overpayments(sounds cool right?) and that will correct the error. Well the check they send you takes a while to clear and while you wait they get a good 500.00 check from you. But after about a week you get told by the bank "The checks no good". Then you are out 500.00 and the item.

He thought the same thing, but it's a casheris check made out by a US bank, his bank called that bank and varifed the check was real....

[thayne]

Maybe setting him up for a sting.

Using 4800 of her own money? I think not!
Scamming the guy who sent him the check? Bullseye

Hmm, now that's possible. Man, I don't know how this guy gets involved in shit. It's always something!

[devinemi83]

Well, either your friend lucked out in a major way or he has a backdoor santa to watch out for.

[tweedledee]

Using 4800 of her own money? I think not!
Scamming the guy who sent him the check? Bullseye

That's why they call them CON tricks Con is short for confidence. They build up confidence then comes the sting. BTW they can afford to lose the odd $4000.[/b]

[thayne]

I told him to hold the money for at least 10 days just in case it is a bad check, even though they called and validated it

Okay, now I just found out the bank didn't actually validate it because the issuing bank was already closed when he cashed it....

Sounds fishy to me! He made a xerox of the check and is going to call the bank himself in the morning. The number on the check matches the number on their website, but that doesn't mean the check is real....