Shaky DVD!!! haaalppp!!!!

[haznut]

ok here´s the prob.
I captured PAL DV, and converted it to DVD NTSC with TMPGenc Plus.

Everything is ok when i play it on the pc, but when i play it in a DVD player, the image freezes 2 or 3 times every second....looks shaky too.
Anybody knows why´s this happening? Am i missing any step before encoding to DVD NTSC from DV PAL?

Thanx

[cona812]

Check the GOP structur. GOP length should not be longer then 15 frames. Maybe that helps.

[haznut]

thanx cona...gonna try that...i have to encode a lot b4 burning to dvd so i let you know how it went.

i was thinking also using canopus procoder instead of TMPGenc to see if this still happens.....

Thanx again!!!

[RottenFoxBreath]

thats what happens when you change from PAL to NTSC.
the jerking is sort of normal for PAL to NTSC conversions,try making a PAL conversion instead.
youve changed it from 25fps to 29fps,what your seeing is the other 4 frames.
particularly noticable on panning scenes,etc.
you could always try to make an NTSC conversion but at 23 fps,instead of 29.

[haznut]

Thanx Fox for your reply..
The reason i converted DV PAL to DVD NTSC is because my DVD player does not support pal, tho it says that it does (Philips DVP-642).

The weird thing is.....out of 5 video segments, the first 20 seconds of the first one doesn´t shakes.....
And is it ok to encode to 23fps ntsc for DVD? would´t that be like making a XVCD? (the tweaking)?

Thanx again

[cona812]

At what bitrate have you encoded? Maybe only the bitrate is too high.

[haznut]

The bitrate was 6000 CBR......

All the forums i read says that you have to first change the fps before enconding pal to ntsc....so i guess that´s the problem maybe.....
weird thing is, as i quoted before, one of the converted videos does not play jerky....
The other weird thing is that my set top dvd says "plays both pal and ntsc"...but pal video appears b&w (my TV has pal and ntsc). The DVD is Philips DVP-642k

oh...another thing....the converted video that plays jerky on the set top DVD, plays excellent on the pc

thanx again for your help

[Liquidant]

I seem to have the same problem only thing is i'm not converting from PAL to NTSC. it's not noticable on the MPG file I made but after I add it to the DVD which is made in DVD arcitect 2.0 and burn the dvd i get this sort of motion blur from the camera as it pans round. could it be better to encoded with VBR or is it the program thats causing the problems. The MPG file was made using Vegas 5

[haznut]

Phew....finally i got this thing to play smoothly.

RottenFoxBreath you were right.
Here´s what i did, maybe it´ll help someone in the future:

1- DV PAL to DV NTSC conversion with Canopus Procoder 2 (excellent quality).

2- DV NTSC to DVD NTSC with TMPGEnc (could have done that with procoder also....but TMPGEnc is more customizable.

That´s it....this is the best quality u will get using software conversion.

adiu and thanx all.

[Polux Flux]

I did the conversion from PAL to NTSC with IFOedit (The Patch Method) In the computer worked fine but in my set top DVD it was shaky...

Now I'm downloading Procover v.2... Hope it works..

[Garibaldi]

I have had a very very similar problem. I would capture my video with capture software bundled with my capture card. The software, moviestar, allowed you to capture, edit, and then render the video. So I did that & burned several dvds. Each of them had shaky video. It turns out that two things were wrong, first the encoder in moviemaker is no good (obviously not hte case for you) and that the video bitrate was too high. The computer could read it fine because the hdd has around 7200 rpms but a dvd is slower. What I would recommend doing is lowering the bitrate when rendering in TMPGENC to around 5500 to 3500. For some of my vhs and 8mm tapes I have even gone as low as 1800 because the original video isn't superb anyway. For the videos you already have rendered, you don't have to run them through TMPGENC again, just download dvd patcher. It lets you change the bitrate without rerendering.