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  1. Being THAT much overweight is a disease with physical
    causes, just like cancer or any other disease. You
    just don't know any better.

    Here is a bit of history of interest:

    People in tropical and semi tropical
    environments were considered lazy for centuries. Many medical
    and anthropological studies confirmed that people from certain
    parts of Africa and South America, especially those who were
    black skinned, were lazy and bone idle.

    When presented with
    a fair days labor, it was said, these people often complained and
    made poor efforts. Psychologists and psychiatrists came up with
    a title for this so-called malingerers syndrome. They called
    it malaria - a Latin derived term for malingerer.
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    no, being that fat means you eat more than you burn off. you want to sit on your ass all day, fine, but if you eat more than one normal meal a day you will put on weight. if you eat more than that you obviously have no self control, it's not like people can convert the air into calories, in order to carry that much fat you MUST have put a lot of food in you. it has nothing to do with "glandular problems" or "slow metabolism" you just eat too damn much.
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  3. What I said. You just don't know.

    You have no clue about the endocrine system, the
    role of the hypothalamus, ATP bioautonomics, psychological, cultural
    and other enviromental factors in obesity.

    You have no idea that 300 genes (so far) have been linked with obesity.
    You have never heard of insulin resistance syndrome, the
    role of hormones (like ghrelin or leptin), peptides, and other
    biochemicals such as cholecystokinin ? Homeostasis is a
    poofter standing still in your book!

    You even dismiss hypothyroidism, polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS), and Cushings Disease as causes of obesity!!

    Your argument is :
    no, being that fat means you eat more than you burn off
    and that:

    weight is controlled by two things
    1) how much you eat
    2) how much you exercise.
    You even go on to make gross assumptions about her character.

    At a bar or at a night out with friends, such views would be
    the norm. But as part of a logical debate? I don't think so.
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    ok, enlighten me. in order to gain (i'm going to visually guess) 140 pounds of fat, you need to put that much food in your body, right? where else can it come from?
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  5. LMAO

    You can't eat 140 pounds in food to gain 140 pounds in
    body fat.

    Let's forget the mechanics of someone elses obesity. Lets look at
    your psychological issues behind the obvious hatred and disgust
    you feel for that female in the photo.
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    Then enlighten me, where did the 140lbs of fat come from?
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  7. Originally Posted by offline
    Being THAT much overweight is a disease with physical
    causes, just like cancer or any other disease.

    Disagree. Jared throws that hypothesis right out the window.
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    Originally Posted by offline
    Being THAT much overweight is a disease with physical
    causes, just like cancer or any other disease. You
    just don't know any better.

    Here is a bit of history of interest:

    People in tropical and semi tropical
    environments were considered lazy for centuries. Many medical
    and anthropological studies confirmed that people from certain
    parts of Africa and South America, especially those who were
    black skinned, were lazy and bone idle.

    When presented with
    a fair days labor, it was said, these people often complained and
    made poor efforts. Psychologists and psychiatrists came up with
    a title for this so-called malingerers syndrome. They called
    it malaria - a Latin derived term for malingerer.
    So when you put them in chains, raped their women, and killed their children indiscriminately, forbade them to learn their culture and history, they should have shown some character and shucked, grinned, jived and tote that barge and not complained?
    Hello.
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  9. Originally Posted by Tommyknocker
    Originally Posted by offline
    Being THAT much overweight is a disease with physical
    causes, just like cancer or any other disease. You
    just don't know any better.

    Here is a bit of history of interest:

    People in tropical and semi tropical
    environments were considered lazy for centuries. Many medical
    and anthropological studies confirmed that people from certain
    parts of Africa and South America, especially those who were
    black skinned, were lazy and bone idle.

    When presented with
    a fair days labor, it was said, these people often complained and
    made poor efforts. Psychologists and psychiatrists came up with
    a title for this so-called malingerers syndrome. They called
    it malaria - a Latin derived term for malingerer.
    So when you put them in chains, raped their women, and killed their children indiscriminately, forbade them to learn their culture and history, they should have shown some character and shucked, grinned, jived and tote that barge and not complained?
    You started your quote with "So when you..." like we were there????
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    Originally Posted by DVD_Ripper
    Originally Posted by Tommyknocker
    Originally Posted by offline
    Being THAT much overweight is a disease with physical
    causes, just like cancer or any other disease. You
    just don't know any better.

    Here is a bit of history of interest:

    People in tropical and semi tropical
    environments were considered lazy for centuries. Many medical
    and anthropological studies confirmed that people from certain
    parts of Africa and South America, especially those who were
    black skinned, were lazy and bone idle.

    When presented with
    a fair days labor, it was said, these people often complained and
    made poor efforts. Psychologists and psychiatrists came up with
    a title for this so-called malingerers syndrome. They called
    it malaria - a Latin derived term for malingerer.
    So when you put them in chains, raped their women, and killed their children indiscriminately, forbade them to learn their culture and history, they should have shown some character and shucked, grinned, jived and tote that barge and not complained?
    You started your quote with "So when you..." like we were there????
    And I'm not up on my Australian history. Did they have a slavery problem as well?
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  11. @ indolikaa

    Jared ?

    @ flaninacupboard

    What do you want me to say? Food??
    Oh no.. I've discredited my entire argument :P
    What about discussing the way you feel and why?

    @ TommyKnocker

    So you experienced trauma as a child or young adult
    and may suffer latent gender issues. See a therapist. You will
    never get the attention you so badly seem to crave here.
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    @ indolikaa

    Jared ?
    Jared is the guy in the Subway commercials that lost like 3 tons by eating nothing but Subway sandwiches.

    I recall a joke when Bob and Tom (radio personalities) were talking about how you gain an inch of penis length for every fifty pounds you lose. They were saying that Jared must be swinging!
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    Originally Posted by offline
    @ flaninacupboard

    What do you want me to say? Food??
    Oh no.. I've discredited my entire argument :P
    What about discussing the way you feel and why?
    I'm serious, either she put more food than she needs in her mouth, or..................... what? what is the alternative you're suggesting?
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    The only thing you have to be worried about with a woman that size is if she's got iPods hidden in those rolls. screwing a woman like that is like screwing a vinyl garbage bag filled with pudding. Capmaster might understand where I'm coming from. :P I wonder if Liza Minelli carries an iPod?
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    Originally Posted by offline
    They called
    it malaria - a Latin derived term for malingerer.
    Originally Posted by Dictionary.com
    ma·lar·i·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-lâr-)
    n.
    An infectious disease characterized by cycles of chills, fever, and sweating, caused by a protozoan of the genus Plasmodium in red blood cells, which is transmitted to humans by the bite of an infected female anopheles mosquito.
    Archaic. Bad or foul air; miasma.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    [Italian, from mala aria, bad air : mala, feminine of malo, bad (from Latin malus. See mel-3 in Indo-European Roots) + aria, air (from Latin r, from Greek. See wer-1 in Indo-European Roots).]
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  16. Capmaster,

    Let's look at the etymology behind malaria:

    After 1620, Malaria was described in terms of its advancing symptoms.
    Ague, "a febrile condition in which there are alternating periods of chills, fever, and

    sweating", actually comes from Latin febris acuta "sharp fever" which found its way into

    Middle English as fever agu. The Latin adjective acuta came to be used

    on its own as a noun meaning "fever", and this became ague in medieval French and was

    borrowed into English as ague. Ague was used to describe general sickliness for
    The English as was Malingre for the French. Sýndrome Malingre was the French term
    for the syndrome. Between 1717 and 1767 this was referred to as Malingre's disease
    or Malingerer's disease. I even have a reference to malingerer's disease in a
    1927 medical journal.


    Mal, according to your quote, comes from the Latin malus meaning bad. But Malaria
    was 1st quoted as a specific syndrome by Lancisi who stated he derived the term
    from the French "Malingre" meaning sickly. Going directly to the root word in
    this case is an etymological error.

    There are many cases where the meanings of words change and are not
    generally recorded for reasons of brevity or ignorance. Read The "Surgeon
    of Crowthorn" on the development of the Oxford English Dictionary for
    examples. So between 1620 and 1767 (1767 was when Lancisi's work was well known)
    we have a disease referred to as malingers syndrome by the medical community.

    Ok so lets do a dumb search on linger as we already have your quote
    on "mal"

    Main Entry: lin·ger
    Pronunciation: 'li[ng]-g&r
    Function: verb
    Inflected Form(s): lin·gered; lin·ger·ing /-g(&-)ri[ng]/
    Etymology: Middle English (northern dialect) lengeren to dwell, frequentative of lengen to prolong, from Old English lengan; akin to Old English lang long
    intransitive senses
    1 : to be slow in parting or in quitting something : TARRY
    2 a : to remain alive although gradually dying b : to remain existent although often waning in strength, importance, or influence <lingering doubts>
    3 : to be slow to act : PROCRASTINATE
    4 : to move slowly : SAUNTER
    transitive senses
    1 obsolete : DELAY
    2 : to pass (as a period of time) slowly
    - lin·ger·er /-g&r-&r/ noun
    - lin·ger·ing·ly /-g(&-)ri[ng]-lE/ adverb
    Oh dear, we seem to have a Middle English reference. So what does this mean? Nothing. It is
    yet another etymological spanner in the works - just like your googled dictionary quote.

    What I said about the Latin stands true.
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    I feel so ashamed using dictionary.com now. Damn offline - you've done your research haven't you? I stand corrected
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    What does Latin, or Middle English have to do with iPods?
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    Originally Posted by tekkieman
    What does Latin, or Middle English have to do with iPods?
    It's the classic thread-jack. Get started questioning offline's take on word origins, and awaaaaay we go

    You saw his reply. Many won't scroll up to see what the original post was about. It's a time-honored method
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    Offline has a lot of spare time on his hands. Damn you mechanical masturbation devices. Now man can even be lazy with sex. How slothfull we have become. If I had the energy to get out of my bed and turn off the computer voice dictator, I'd really type some nasty comments to you, but Simpson's are on and the pizza guy just arrived with my internet order. :P


    EDIT - I'll probably just make the wife get it, the same way I made her order the pizza over the internet.
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    I think since flan gave up the argument, offline turned his attention to the next poster. I'd better sneak out of here quick!
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    how many turns of the crank to set the spring did a Model T require if it started on the first try ?
    "Each problem that I solved became a rule which served afterwards to solve other problems." - Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
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  23. Huh... and I was able to pull the lot outa my head at 7 am
    on a rainy Saturday morning with only a spellcheck to assist
    and a quick google for a quote. :P

    Maybe I can assist with Newbies 110 "ThreadJacking; Mastering
    the Art of BS"
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    Originally Posted by offline
    Huh... and I was able to pull the lot outa my head at 7 am
    on a rainy Saturday morning with only a spellcheck to assist
    and a quick google for a quote. :P

    Maybe I can assist with Newbies 110 "ThreadJacking; Mastering
    the Art of BS"
    The professor position may be opening as our resident professor has now missed the scheduled class 3 times in a row!
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    Originally Posted by tekkieman
    I think since flan gave up the argument, offline turned his attention to the next poster. I'd better sneak out of here quick!
    I didn't give up, i'm still waiting for an answer, where did the fat come from? i think she ate too much, offline disagrees, so i'd like him to tell me where the fat came from.

    well, to be honest i don't really care anymore.....
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    Originally Posted by offline
    @ indolikaa

    Jared ?

    @ flaninacupboard

    What do you want me to say? Food??
    Oh no.. I've discredited my entire argument :P
    What about discussing the way you feel and why?

    @ TommyKnocker

    So you experienced trauma as a child or young adult
    and may suffer latent gender issues. See a therapist. You will
    never get the attention you so badly seem to crave here.
    You're supposed to be neutral. Trust me, in my job, I have all the attention I need. I supervise 60 people who work on 720 million dollars worth of some of the most lethal aircraft known to man. I've briefed generals and congresspersons. How dare you presume to tell me anything about me? You better look at those shallow raging bigots who post unflattering pictures of women and guffaw with mindless, tasteless humor. I've seen the pictures of some of them, and looking at them is no day at the beach, either. I'll take my yellow card, now, please.
    Hello.
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    There are times when you hear comments like that, where you just wish you had an iPod in your hand.

    That could be a good ad campaign for the iPod.
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    Originally Posted by Doramius
    There are times when you hear comments like that, where you just wish you had an iPod in your hand.

    That could be a good ad campaign for the iPod.
    Now how would you explain to your doctor how you got your IPod shoved so far up your butt, when you open your mouth he can hear Britney Spears?
    Hello.
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    Originally Posted by Tommyknocker
    You're supposed to be neutral. Trust me, in my job, I have all the attention I need. I supervise 60 people who work on 720 million dollars worth of some of the most lethal aircraft known to man. I've briefed generals and congresspersons. How dare you presume to tell me anything about me? You better look at those shallow raging bigots who post unflattering pictures of women and guffaw with mindless, tasteless humor. I've seen the pictures of some of them, and looking at them is no day at the beach, either. I'll take my yellow card, now, please.
    What's that noise....? someone struggling to nail themself to a cross....?
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    Originally Posted by flaninacupboard
    Originally Posted by Tommyknocker
    You're supposed to be neutral. Trust me, in my job, I have all the attention I need. I supervise 60 people who work on 720 million dollars worth of some of the most lethal aircraft known to man. I've briefed generals and congresspersons. How dare you presume to tell me anything about me? You better look at those shallow raging bigots who post unflattering pictures of women and guffaw with mindless, tasteless humor. I've seen the pictures of some of them, and looking at them is no day at the beach, either. I'll take my yellow card, now, please.
    What's that noise....? someone struggling to nail themself to a cross....?
    What's that noise? Flatulence?
    Hello.
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