max. file size for VCD

[BoNeSaW]

How can I copy a 713mb MPEG,AVI ect to a VCD?
I tried to record and says not enough disc space....
the strange thing is, this file was taken off a VCD already from a 700mb CDR.

Do I have to split the video into 2 files to fit on a 700mb CDR?
Whats the maximum size a file can be to fit to VCD?

[johns0]

https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?howtoselect=3;7#3;7

[jimmalenko]

How can I copy a 713mb MPEG,AVI ect to a VCD?
I tried to record and says not enough disc space....
the strange thing is, this file was taken off a VCD already from a 700mb CDR.

Do I have to split the video into 2 files to fit on a 700mb CDR?
Whats the maximum size a file can be to fit to VCD?

800MB VCD compliant MPEGs will fit on a 700MB CD.

Are you trying to burn using a VCD template or as data ?

[ZippyP.]

Author it, see the first reply.

[RNCSerge]

I was wondering if anyone can explain how 800 mb S/VCD can burn to a 700 mb CD-R? I heard something about Mode 2. Can someone explain in detail? Is it possible to use Mode 2 recording to burn 800 mb of anything on a 700 mb CD-R?

[adam]

https://www.videohelp.com/faq#740

The disk actually holds about 800MB's. It just that with regular data (mode 1) there is additional error correction which takes up space.

Actually it is possible to burn regular data in mode 2. There is a freeware utility called something like "mode2 cd maker," which is mostly used to fit 800MBs of movie (divx, xvid, etc..) onto 1 disk. I don't really see any other point for such a tool. If you are archiving regular data the extra 100MBs is not worth it considering the greater risk of errors and data loss, and the fact that cdrs are so cheap.

[jimmalenko]

https://www.videohelp.com/faq#740

It's good to see that the FAQ provided the answer.

[Nonnv]

Acctually I can tell you even more.
I have in front of me a 700 mb CD with 6 versions of WIN XP, with a total space of 1,5 to 2 gb.
Now, don't ask me you it fit, because the person o copied it to me, dosent no either.

If someone have any ideas ...

dont be silent.

[adam]

Could be using HD-Burn. Its a new feature that lets you record twice as much data onto a cdr.

Packet writing software also lets you fit alot more data onto a disk but I doubt that's what you've got.

If its a full 2 gigs then I'm not sure how you'd fit that much. Don't count out errors on the disk either. Its common for the reported disk size to be much larger then it really is. Select all files on the disk and look at the properties and that should give you its real size.

[Nonnv]

Sorry Adam, i lied to to you

It's 8 win XP with a total of.. are you siting down?

3,87 GB (4.157.020.160 bytes)

Bizarre isn't it?

[Treebeard]

Acctually I can tell you even more.
I have in front of me a 700 mb CD with 6 versions of WIN XP, with a total space of 1,5 to 2 gb.
Now, don't ask me you it fit, because the person o copied it to me, dosent no either.

If someone have any ideas ...

dont be silent.

Sounds like warez material!! Baaaaad !!!

[yoda313]

Hello,

Treebeard-
Nonnv wrote:
Acctually I can tell you even more.
I have in front of me a 700 mb CD with 6 versions of WIN XP, with a total space of 1,5 to 2 gb.
Now, don't ask me you it fit, because the person o copied it to me, dosent no either.

If someone have any ideas ...

dont be silent.



Sounds like warez material!! Baaaaad !!!

Hey treebeard, maybe they just wanted TEST out high compression cd burning!!
Kevin
P.S. You're right, it does sound suspicious.

EDIT ----- COOL! This is my 400th POST!!! I'm getting there

[Nonnv]

Well, I can't really say. But I am almost sure it was made here in Portugal.

But returning to the topic of this discussion - or not :P - When o convert a AVI to MPEG the file, logically, increses it's size.

So my question is: How can I shrik it to fit a 700 mb cd?

Note:
I use TMPGEnc 2.5 to convert it and VCDEasy to make te final SVCD with Chapters

[bugster]

The size of an mpeg file depends on the bitrate and playing time. At the max bitrate of 1150kbps for VCD, you get approx 10Mb/min. So you can fit ~ 80min of VCD video on an 80 minCD. To fit more, lower the bitrate (and degrade the quality).

As for the 3.5Gb on a CD, its quite possible that many of the 'files' that windows sees are actually just links (like shortcuts) to a single file. So if you have one 100Mb file, but 10 links to it, Windows sees 10 files each of 100Mbytes. That could explain what you have.

[Nonnv]

Regarding the birates for a VCD:
I agree with your information, that's absolutly right. BUT, when using TMPGenc in VCD mode, one can not acess the birate option, and when using SVCD option the minimum birate avalible is 1600 kbps.

So, is there a tool out there that can change the birate - this is just because i get a bit fed up on using 2 cd's for a VCD ou SVCD movie :P, and i wonder: if there are AVI's with 700mb and 1.4 gb with similar viewing quality, can it be possible to do the same with a MPEG/VCD and how? :P

Regarding the 3.5 g.b:
I copyed each win into a CDRW and all of those 8 copys work alone :S.
But i see what you mean :P

Thanks

[adam]

TMPGenc, or just about any other encoder for that matter, will let you use as little bitrates as you want. If you use using one of the preset templates then go ahead and load the unlock template also, to make sure everything is editable. If you are using the wizard...don't.

I don't recommend going below 1150k for VCD or 1600k for SVCD anyway. The quality gets pretty terrible pretty fast at these points. Your best bet is to just split your movie on multiple disks or upgrade to dvd-r.

[Nonnv]

LOL
I just saw what you mean. I was being DUMB!

hehehehe. ('8)')

Bye the way, besides TMPGenc, do you know another program that will allow one 8) to add subtitles to a movie when converting to VCD?

[iantri]

1. Dropping VCD bitrate below 1150kbps results in a non-compliant VCD and it may not play in some finicky players..

2. To add (fixed, forced, hard, burnt-in, choose adjective of your choice) subtitles, the easiest way is to probably use VirtualDub -- install VirtualDub, an appropriate subtitle plug-in, open the AVI in VirtualDub, go into the Filter menu and select the subtitle filter, select the subtitle file and make sure that everything is OK, then click Start Frameserver. Open the frameserver file in Tmpgenc and Virtualdub will process and send the video in realtime to Tmpgenc.

[adam]

1. Dropping VCD bitrate below 1150kbps results in a non-compliant VCD and it may not play in some finicky players..

Actually, belive it or not, the specs list 1150kbits as the MAX bitrate for a VCD. You can go as low as you want and still be perfectly compliant, as long as its encoded in CBR.

[Nonnv]

Uhmm that's intresting

Thank's guys you've been great.

I'll do some testing, and later tommorow, I'll give you some of my insights

[jimmalenko]

1. Dropping VCD bitrate below 1150kbps results in a non-compliant VCD and it may not play in some finicky players..

Actually, belive it or not, the specs list 1150kbits as the MAX bitrate for a VCD. You can go as low as you want and still be perfectly compliant, as long as its encoded in CBR.

Probably should add here that if you do change the bitrate to below 1150kbps, make sure that on the System tab you change the Stream Type from MPEG-1 Video-CD to MPEG-1 Video-CD (non-standard).