The HouseWife's Role

[tekkieman]

Now we just need to talk her into the class photo. Anything would brighten up that group of mugshots!

[Capmaster]

Seriously, do you have a pic you'd want to post, babyboo? I'd like to add it to the class photo and dispel any myths that this is a men's only club

[thayne]

LOL...Not Likely!

Where's your sense of adventure? Come on! I triple dog dare ya....

[Doramius]

Can't do nudes, but we can do pasties and thongs in prettiest woman. Unless you look like Mimi from Drew Carey, then it goes in it's own thread. Either way, Northcat will want to give you a Pearl Necklace.

[thayne]

Doramius

As a presidential candidate I say NUDES ARE OKAY! and Required by all females posting in OT....

[Capmaster]

Now aren't you glad you spoke up, Babyboo?

[Doramius]

Doramius

As a presidential candidate I say NUDES ARE OKAY! and Required by all females posting in OT....

I never said they weren't okay. Moderators tend to yellow card items that our 13-17 year old site visitors might tell their parents about, who would in turn send some stupid letter to the government and have the site shut down. Remember, there's always the Politik Forum. Pasties and thongs will do here. Maybe later web cams will be allowed. Then we'll all know what Northcat really does when he's online. (though some of us are afraid to know)

[northcat_8]

Psssstttttt.....Cap? don't let her know I asked but....is she hot?

Does it matter? You ain't getting any anyway, LMAO!

RWA Handbook Rule 1.3-2a of the revised whoring code reads:
Every "no" is 2 shots from a "maybe" and every maybe is 2 shots from a "hell yea, why not".

Don't tell me "I can't"...that is the fastest way to motivate Northcat.

[northcat_8]

Babyboo, I apologize for some of my fellow posters...Thayne and Doramius...the only contact they have with women are the pictures that came in their wallets.

It would be nice if you submitted a picture of yourself to capmaster (unless you are a sheep) for the class photo...that photo could use a bright spot in there somewhere.

By the way, knowing that in your time here you have to have read some posts of...questionable humor....and were not offended. I have to tell you that not only am I amazed that you are still here, I am also impressed.

[tekkieman]

Someone cut northcat off!

[Grimey]

Well he's right, it would be nice to have a picture of a female in that class photo. just to prove that there actually is at least one female member on this forum.

[northcat_8]

Hey hey hey....no cutting off the alcohol supply...I am just hitting my stride. Just wait until I get really lit, I'm not nearly as tactful and shy as I usually am.

That will have to wait for a later date though, it's already 1:19 am here in eastern time zone, I will be going to bed here shortly.

[tekkieman]

Well he's right, it would be nice to have a picture of a female in that class photo. just to prove that there actually is at least one female member on this forum.

I said that 8 hours ago!

Now we just need to talk her into the class photo. Anything would brighten up that group of mugshots!

[Capmaster]

I think Babyboo is showing good judgment and doesn't want to be associated with this group.

[tenders]

well i admit i didn't read through all the posts, but my opinion is that the wife/mother should stay home and look after the children/house. guess i'm old fashioned. the world these days has become very complicated with respect to 2 parent working families.

less work hours...more pay

[northcat_8]

well i admit i didn't read through all the posts, but my opinion is that the wife/mother should stay home and look after the children/house. guess i'm old fashioned. the world these days has become very complicated with respect to 2 parent working families.

less work hours...more pay

I agree. Since the chase for the almighty dollar began, values and morals have seen a serious reduction.

I had a kid who was struggling. Speaking with his parents, I found out that they both work 2nd shift. (3:00pm - 12:00am). He goes to school from 8 am - 3 pm, so he only sees his parents on the weekends. When she asked me what I thought, I told her. I told her that she either needed to change shifts or change jobs. A 13-14 year old kid, while they are old enough to stay at home by themselves, are not yet old enough to raise themselves.

It is a sad state of affairs and is only going to get worse.

[Capmaster]

Not only do our children suffer from our current economy, but consumers suffer too. Big-ticket items like houses and new cars are priced for two incomes, not just one like in the past. Add in the outrageous wages the unions demand for basically unskilled labor, and you have a grocery-getter priced at $24,000

[gmatov]

Cap,

Good analysis. 24 grand a year for a peon. What a ripoff.

My son in law is a "grocery getter" in a regional warehouse. All he has to do is pick, pack, and shrinkwrap 20 tonnes or so of geoceries to be delivered to the store in the AM. For this, he should be paid 160 bucks per shift, nay, 200 bucks, as they are on 4 10 hour days.

I know, you know a thousand people who would do this for 5 bucks an hour. Well, why aren't they there doing it?

Them what condemn the Unions for elevating wages never consider that without the same Unions, you, too, could be making 5 bucks an hour.

If you can't move to a Union shop next door, why would the shop you work at now ever increase wages? "Ain't no where for you to go to get more money, you gotta stay here."

Employers hate it when any shop gets unionized. They have to pay more to keep their present employees, and maybe a premium to keep those left from asking for a Union election for the rest.

13 % of the workforce Unionized, how can they be the ones causing the cost of living to rise at the rate it has? Mebbe with more allowed to donate to their preferred parties campaign coffers, the more responsive the representatives would be, not beholden to big business, nor trial lawyers, nor the medical profession. Or, in the present case, big business AND big oil.

Cheers,

George

[MeDiCo_BrUjO]

[Ripper2860]

George,

I believe the Capmaster is referring to a car when he says "grocery getter". We typically refer to a basic "no frills" economy car as a "grocery getter". Virtually all automotive workers are Union.

However, you are correct. Unfortunately, Unions are also a factor in sending many jobs overseas. Sometimes in protecting the workers, Unions make the product being manufactured less viable in a global economy as it is priced beyond competitors products.

I really don't know where I fall on this issue, as I can see all sides -- the worker; the consumer; and the shareholder. It is a very complex and difficult issue.

[Capmaster]

Ripper2860 - you are correct. I was referring to small economy cars

[flaninacupboard]

Not only do our children suffer from our current economy, but consumers suffer too. Big-ticket items like houses and new cars are priced for two incomes, not just one like in the past. Add in the outrageous wages the unions demand for basically unskilled labor, and you have a grocery-getter priced at $24,000

You hit the nail there Cap, i have spoken about this in RL, that women joining the workforce doubled the number of jobs, and halved the wages. I can't afford a home on my own, i -need- another persons income to afford it. it's all screwed up if you ask me, as is (knows he is about to be smacked upside the head) maternity leave. i see having a baby as similar to going travelling. it's a lifestyle choice, i see no reason for your job to be held open, you still receive wages and your company pay a temp to fill your post. if you -choose- to have a baby you -choose- to leave your job. seems simple.

[Doramius]

This is starting to get political, if that happens we'll have to move this to politik, but it's a good thread.

Unions have a good point and understanding, but if they are truly going to ask for better privleges, pay and conditions then they need to be more strict on who they allow into the unions. If they are fighting for better pay, it better be because they are all college graduates who have been working for over 2 years and can't get anything more than $35k a year. GED only people shouldn't be sucking the pay and jobs from people who've actually spent time and money to learn a profession. I also don't think a Burger flipper should earn almost $30k a year when there are teachers who earn $27k a year. I also think trade school degrees would be a nice addition to standard education degrees when coming into the workforce as it may give some students on hand experience. Granted that's what an intern is, but I feel degree backing in physical production would be a definite plus for skill reference. Internship sometimes means squat to companies.

[tekkieman]

They have technical trade schools in many places. I had 4 years of electronics training instead of high school. Still had to complete all the requirements of high school, plus 3 hours a day of related math and science. Did that for two weeks, then two weeks of 8 hour days, 3 in the classroom, 5 in the shop. Rotate back to the academic cycle in two weeks.

[Doramius]

They have technical trade schools in many places. I had 4 years of electronics training instead of high school. Still had to complete all the requirements of high school, plus 3 hours a day of related math and science. Did that for two weeks, then two weeks of 8 hour days, 3 in the classroom, 5 in the shop. Rotate back to the academic cycle in two weeks.

I have a trade school degree in electronics too. I did 2 years while I was in high school. I got both a Regents Diploma for academics as well as my Trade Diploma. Then it was off to college to learn 101 different ways of drinking alcohol. I think Cap dropped Modern Drinking 101 because it interfered with Advanced Vinyl Studies 214. Besides it was only an elective for a major in Farm Animals.

[tekkieman]

The trade school route was great! I entered the industry a year before graduation, and remained in it until age 31, when I opted to switch to software development, then started college. Didn't do much drinking though. Kinda hard to keep up working full time and going to school full time. Plus with a mortgage to pay....

Would have been easier right out of high school, but I don't think I would appreciate it as much.

I think cap was just dissapointed when he found out what Animal Husbandry 418 was really all about!

[Doramius]

He stuck with it though. He's got his 'BA' in Goats and Sheep.

[tekkieman]

...He's got his 'BA' in Goats and Sheep.

That's not what he has in goats and sheep!

[Doramius]

...He's got his 'BA' in Goats and Sheep.

That's not what he has in goats and sheep!

No, what you're talking about he has in vinyl.

[Capmaster]

He stuck with it though. He's got his 'BA' in Goats and Sheep.

How does everyone else end up in a great college except me?

I study my ass off getting my sheepskin (NPI) in electrical engineering, and now I find out I could have cruised through the Goats and Sheep cirriculum, and gotten a job at Steve Irwin's Australia Zoo in Beerwah, "taking care of" sheep 1 or 2 hours a day and mugging for the Animal Planet cameras the rest of the time