Flaskmpeg OR DVD2AVI

[Henke]

Which way of the two is best to use when making vcd/svcd with Tmpgenc. Iv'e tried both, and with Flaskmpeg and aviplugin i get subtitles. Can i get that with DVD2AVI, or is the quality better with Flask so i should stay with that?

[joel]

DVDx is the best IMO
LSX Encoder is the best speed/quality encoder IMO

[Henke]

Iv'e tried ligos-encoder once, but i didn't think it was "good quality".

[joel]

Sorry should have stated I only do SVCDs these days...

I found it to be worse quality for doing VCDs than the Panasonic Encoder, but it seems to work real well for VBR SVCDs for me, can fit 40 minutes of video on an 650MB CDR and the quality is VERY GOOD, use average minimum BR of 1700 and an average maximum of 2100... And using DVDx it encodes directly off the DVD at 10fps so a 40minute segment takes about 1.5 hours to encode.... (I use a 100MB RAM Buffer to avoid damaging the DVD drive by encoding directly off it).

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[Henke]

Once (as a test) I did an avi-file (using Flask)with a bitrate of 3000 in low-motion and then converted that to vcd using tmpgenc and a standard vcd-template. The result of this was an movie with less blockiness than when i got direct from dvd using flask/avisynth and tmpgenc. Strange in my opinion as it involves two encodings. Anyone got an idea why?

[joel]

This might be more of a second question stemming from Henke's last question but does AVIsynth create an AVI stream that is fed to TMPGEnc to convert to MPEG, IF THIS IS SO, then maybe Henke got a better quality MPEG as TMPGenc had a better quality input to convert to MPEG....

Garbage in - Garbage out????

[Henke]

i'm not sure i follow you but shouldn't:
Flaskmpeg(using output avisynt)-tmpgenc-.mpgfile

be better than:

flaskmpeg-.avi file(bitrate3000)-tmpgenc-mpgfile

Yes this actually is more like a second question, i agree.

[Shabubu]

Avisynth is a frameserver, so basically it pretends to be an avi, when an encoder asks to see a frame, avisynth runs over to your true file, gets the frame, does all the filter stuff you want it to, then says "Here You Go ". It's nicer than vdub cause you don't have to run Vdub in the background, it works in YUV so is faster for most MPEG stuff, and the filters do a better job. This is in reply to joel's post

[joel]

OK explain more, flask is decoding the VOB file correct and it is 'serving' (for lack of better word) an AVI stream to TMPGenc, my guess is that this AVI stream is of lower quality than the one you created....