Sampling rates different and cannot merge avi files

[venomm]

Hi, I am really stuck here and I hope someone can help?
I have searched many posts on the forum, but cannot find the exact answer I am looking for:
I want to join together/merge 2 avi files to make one file. However, the 2 avi files I've got have 2 different sampling rates (according to my Joiner program). I attempted to alter the format of both to an MPEG 2 and then tried to merge them to no avail.
The CBR of 1 is 2000kbps and the other one is quite a lot higher than this - according to TMPEGEnc Plus.
Is there an EASY way - I am VERY much a learner here - to change one of the files, or both, to the same Sampling rate so I can merge the two files, please? Both avi files play well on their own, but seem incompatible when I alter the format and then try to merge them into one.
Regards, V

[flaninacupboard]

download Gspot, and put each file in. put up screenshots of the results, then we can have a look at it.

[venomm]

Sorry, I've never taken a screenshot before in my life - how do I take a screenshot of the GSpot window, please?

[flaninacupboard]

hold alt and press Print Screen (above the insert/home/puge up keys) open paint or photoshop and hit edit-paste. do any editing, save. then follow instructions when posting to include the image.

[Roderz]

In this situation I dont join the avi files
Just set up the encoder to encode to mpeg2 add to each project to batch list and encode to 1 file
I use MainConcept for this but pretty I'm sure TMPEGEnc has this option aswell

[venomm]

Hi, thanks, Roderz, I am currently encoding both avi's to a batch list - will this merge the 2 avi's into one - or will I have to do this seperately, please?
Is this an easier way to encode and then merge files than using a commercial "Joiner" - if so, is it any good for joining 2 halves a film together, for example?

As for the screenshot - my keyboard won't let me "Printscreen" with the Alt key at the moment, so I've downloaded an upgrade to the keyboard's software but cannot yet restart the PC as my Mainconcept is working. Once this is finished I'll have another go, flaninacupboard. Cheers, V

[Roderz]

If you follow the guide in the link on my sig for main concept it should give you one mpeg file
Exactly what I'm doing as I type.

[venomm]

EXCELLENT!! I have now managed to merge and convert the files using Mainconcept - never even knew it could do that!! Thanks, Roderz, I had to re-convert from MPEG 2 to DVD in order for it to be burnt to a DVD disc, but no prob's.
Thanks for your help and flaninacupboard for the initial suggestions - still not got round to a screenshot, either.

The guide, by the way, is now cut and pasted into my PC!!
All the best, V

PS The Midlands ain't so bad - it's got me too!!

[Roderz]

Glad to here you got it sorted,
Using this method I never get any audio sync issues either, provided I save audio to wav 1st using vdub and do the same thing with mainconcept on the audio to get 1 mp2 file.

PS The Midlands ain't so bad

Depends if your stuck in the sticks or not 8)

[flaninacupboard]

PS The Midlands ain't so bad

Depends if your stuck in the sticks or not 8)

Bleuch, tell me about it....

[venomm]

Do you have a Guide to using VDUB and then Mainconcept to fiddle with the audio, please? Virtualdub is a new prog to me; and when you say save the audio to wav do you mean rip it with vdub and/or Mainconcept then do some other stuff with them? I ask this because when I've separated them befor they have never really got back in sinc again!

What are you doing to the audio files, please? Do you use virtualdub and THEN Mainconcept with them?
I am SO confused - must be all the coal dust!!

Cheers, V

[Roderz]

Well this is how I do it

if gspot says its mp3 audio then
Open Virtualdub load your avi,
goto Audio menu select 'Full processing mode'
Audio menu select compression - NONE pcm (top 1)
Audio menu select conversion - select 48K if it's 44.1K
File menu - save wav

if gspot says its ac3 audio then
Open Virtualdub load your avi,
goto Audio menu select 'direct stream copy'
File menu - save wav
run file through ac3fix

[venomm]

Here I am again - by the way, excellent Guides you have written, I've printed them all off, cheers - and I have yet another question:

I have now managed to get an avi file which is out of sync BEFORE I Author it and make it into my DVD. Will your above guide re: audio re-sync it so the audio and video files are back insync, please?

I will have to have the saying: "The more I do, the less I know and the more problems I create as a consequence!!"
Keep going, M8, don't give up on me yet.
Best wishes,
V