Problem Converting PAL to NTSC, One that works!

[BCAESE]

I tried IFOEdit, with this software you adjust and convert the IFO and BUP files. (From your How To Link)

I compiled my PAL Movie with DVDLab, then coverted the IFO & BUP files with IFOedit.

When I put in my NTSC ONLY Toshiba DVD player it worked

I used DVD Patcher but that did not work at all.

The only problem is the picture. It is showing in double. In the IFOEdit patch process I configured the settings to 720x480 4:3 and Letterbox, maybe 352x480 will show a better picture. The other thing is the picture, it's not smooth there is a slight jump every couple seconds.

Thank God for DVD-RW

I was wondering if anyone knows a way to fix the picture and the slight jumping? Or even a better Patch method.

I tried converting with TPMGEnc, DVD2AVI & BeSweetGUI and I was stumped by the TPMGEnc Wizard, it would not except my .d2v file, I got a dll file error and the judging step would not proceed.

I borrowed a friends DVD-R and tried it in my Toshiba SD 1700 and it works fine! I know it is possible to play DVD-R's on my DVD player. Is there a way find out how that DVD-R was configured??

I am open to any suggestions!!

[BCAESE]

WOW ,THIS FORUM IS GREAT!!

NOBODY REPLIES!!!!

[FulciLives]

Your method is really nothing more than a "trick" that mostly doesn't work that well although it does depend on the source and perhaps more importantly the DVD player playing back the disc.

In short very few people find this method acceptable.

To get a proper PAL to NTSC conversion you need to re-encode adjusting for the frame size and frame rate. This often also requires that the audio be adjusted as well.

Or you can use the "easy" method and buy a DVD player (such as a Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 model) that is region free and will convert PAL to NTSC on playback. This can actually look really good though again not all DVD players do the conversion as well as others.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[BCAESE]

Thank you for the quick response

Over the weekend I spent hours reseaching on the net. I suceeded with TMPGEnc and BeSweet.

My player now plays the picture with no jumping, but it still shows a double picture.

Do you know how to fix that It could be my DVD Player but like said, it does play DVD-R's because I played my friends and it played fine.

Is there anything to fix the double picture

[Faithful Follower]

When you saying you succeeded, which method did you use. the patch method or the actual conversion?

[BCAESE]

I converted the FPS of the video with TMPGEnc and converted the audio with BeSweet. Mux audio an video together and I have a great NTSC mpeg.

It plays on my DVD player it just shows a double picture.

How do you fix that

[Faithful Follower]

What bitrate do you use?
Under the advance tab of TMPGEncPlus, have you check the box says DO NOT FRAME RATE CONVERSION ?
Did you convert it to 23.976 or to 29.97?
I know you followed the guides, but can you give me more details of what you did? To solve your problem, will need to pinpoint your process step by step, maybe you missed something along the way.

edit

P.S. Was the doubling images constantly thru out the film?

[FulciLives]

What the hell does a double picture mean?

Post some pics.

Also answer the questions that Faithful Follower posted specifically did you check mark DO NOT FRAME RATE CONVERSION and was your PAL source PROGRESSIVE or INTERLACED to begin with?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[BCAESE]

OK

Yes, I did check do not frame rate conversion.

I did not use the TMPGEnc Wizard because it won't accept .d2v files made from DVDAVI.

I input my m2v file which I demuxed with TMPGEnc, I input my new audio file from BeSweetGUI.

Check the settings, made sure there was 3:2 pulldown.
Hit Start. Voila! my new Mpeg in NTSC 480x480

In TMPGEncPlus in the bottom bar is says the fps is 23.976

When I'm in the authouring process using DVDLab my new mpeg shows fps=29.97

When it is played in my DVD player the audio is in sync the picture is clear, it just shows a double picture, meaning it shows the whole movie 3/4 of the screen and then the other half the same picture is playing simutaneously, therefore there is a vertical line 3/4 across the screen
and the same picture is playing.
The double images are consistent throughout the movie.

I don't have a digital camera so I can't post any pics.

Maybe the frame size needs to be adjusted in TMPGEnc

[Josef K]

I don't have a digital camera so I can't post any pics.

How does it look when you play it on your PC? If it still has the same problem then just Print Screen it so we can all take a look.

[Faithful Follower]

Thats because you probably have an older model player?
My brother's older DVD player plays SVCD ( on CD )fine, but when he tried playing an SVCD-DVD, it shows the exact same thing you mentioned. Two screens side by side.

edit:

Maybe DVDLab didn't do a good job on the header patching?
Try SVCD2DVD instead.

[FulciLives]

Well 480x480 is not a DVD compliant resolution so why you chose that as your re-encode resolution for a DVD is beyond me.

No wonder you had picture problems!

You should have done either 720x480 or 352x480

Again I still don't see much information about the source as in PROGRESSIVE or INTERLACED or what resolution it was to begin with etc.

TMPGEnc works with DVD2AVI and vice versa. Either your environmental properties are badly set up in TMPGEnc or you have one of the "buggy" versions of DVD2AVI.

The best version of DVD2AVI right now can be found here:

http://neuron2.net/fixd2v/decodefix.html

SOAP BOX TIME

All this running around could be cut down if people posting questions gave EXACTING details on the source and the programs and steps they are taking etc.

This shouldn't have taken this many posts in this thread to figure out the problem was making a DVD with an incorrect unsupported resolution ESPECIALLY since the user re-encoded the source!

A big waste of time.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[BCAESE]

It plays perfect on my PC. I tried it on my friends dvd player and it works fine.

DVD Lab is set at 720x480.
I don't use TMPGEnc Wizard and DVD2AVI because the quality of the picture gets worse squares show up and disappear on the sides of the screen. Maybe I do have a bug version. I don't use DVD2AVI and it works fine. No jumping picture. Is that not the purpose of DVD2AVI?
Correct me if I am wrong.

The original file was PAL 480x576.
As I am newbie I don't know how to check of the original file is interlaced or progressive

Bitrate = 2520kbs set in TMPGEnc
Interlaced in TMPGEnc

hope this helps

[duhmez]

Just because it plays fine on your friends does not mean it is correct. Mine for example will lplay 480x480 dvd's, but many won't. its still not complaint. Reencode to 352x480 and it wil be fine.