Beckham

[rhegedus]

What a tool!

I'll link a clip of his penalty when I get back from work.

Any bets on the number of effigys going to be hanging from lamp-posts?

[Cobra]

It's only a game.

When England lost to France, a French car sitting on the street got completely trashed. People are getting too wound up about football - it's crazy. You'd think we were at war.

Maybe it's different for a football fan. I'm not.

Cobra

[Forum Troll]

Forgive me for being a stupid American, by why do Europeans get so emotional over a soccer match?

[Cobra]

Not all Europeans do. I'm a European!

[Will Hay]

Forgive me for being a stupid American

...you're forgiven

by why do Europeans get so emotional over a soccer match?

Don't know really, I guess it's in our blood.
Up to the age of maturity for a Euro male (anything from 25 to 55, depending on the country) nothing else matters.
Then, responsibility kicks in and people become a little more sensible.

They'll be nothing like the stupidity shown over Beckham like last time, the lad has proved his worth countless times since then and whilst has not had a great tournament is vital to the team, IMHO.
Somewhat interesting that your thread/post didn't mention Vassell, for who's penalty was far worse.
Poor bloody Beckham didn't know about the shitty condition the spot was in.
Shit happens I'm afraid
I'vee gained a little faith recently/last couple of years, don't know why really but to cut a long story short I prayed ten seconds before Lampard scored (prayed for a goal, obv!) and after that felt I'd been answered, I didn't wish to pray again, now that would have been cheating.
Bastard referee
This is his email address if you're interested by the way:
ursmeier@referree.ch
Freely available on the net anyway via the FIFA site, but I mailed him asking for the reasons why he isn't a gardener or a plumber.
I'm waiting on his reply and will keep you informed

When England lost to France, a French car sitting on the street got completely trashed. People are getting too wound up about football - it's crazy. You'd think we were at war.

I despise this kind of behaviour, people who do this (and similar acts) are scum, as you know
Will

[flaninacupboard]

i don't care for football. in a game where a 1-0 result is considered exciting (so that's 89 minutes of "oh, they're up that end, no, the other, the other, no... the other, the other. oh. now the other, that was an ugly punch! the other. the other. now the other" 30 seconds of "they're really close the goal now, yep, he's gonna try. yep, there you go. hooray!" and 30 seconds of "awww, they're all hugging each other and taking their shirts off. isn't that cute?") i am amazed anyone gets rialled up at all. i would prefer to sit and watch nero burn 3 dvds. at least i ave something worthwhile at the end of it!

[Will Hay]

i don't care for football.......i would prefer to sit and watch nero burn 3 dvds.

I can respect anyone who doesn't like footie, but that statement is just plain worrying.
Will

[flaninacupboard]

but you quoted out of context!

at least i have something worthwhile at the end of it!

[DVD_Ripper]

It's only a game.

When England lost to France, a French car sitting on the street got completely trashed. People are getting too wound up about football - it's crazy. You'd think we were at war.

Maybe it's different for a football fan. I'm not.

Cobra

What was it two, three years ago for the Baseball World Series in Toronto. Philadelphia was playing Toronto... Philly sent in the pitcher 'Wild Thing' (can't remember his name) and have gave up the loosing run to a 3 run homerun... The poor bastard didn't even return home to Philly after that game -- I think he moved to Arizona immediately following the game with his family in tow. He would have probably been beat up or his house trashed due to his pitching. It is kinda sad ... since its only a game. A lot of 'red necks' in the USA.

[flaninacupboard]

What was it two, three years ago for the Baseball World Series in Toronto. Philadelphia was playing Toronto... Philly sent in the pitcher 'Wild Thing' (can't remember his name) and have gave up the loosing run to a 3 run homerun... The poor bastard didn't even return home to Philly after that game -- I think he moved to Arizona immediately following the game with his family in tow. He would have probably been beat up or his house trashed due to his pitching. It is kinda sad ... since its only a game. A lot of 'red necks' in the USA.

i thought a homerun was good thing? but you make it sound he did a bad thing...?
i like the way you have have a baseball world series when only americans and canadians play
well, technically not true, we have baseball here. only it's called rounders and it's played by 12 year old girls

[shoozleboy]

What was it two, three years ago for the Baseball World Series in Toronto. Philadelphia was playing Toronto... Philly sent in the pitcher 'Wild Thing' (can't remember his name) and have gave up the loosing run to a 3 run homerun... The poor bastard didn't even return home to Philly after that game -- I think he moved to Arizona immediately following the game with his family in tow. He would have probably been beat up or his house trashed due to his pitching. It is kinda sad ... since its only a game. A lot of 'red necks' in the USA.

Um.... Ripper my friend.... what year do you think this is?

That was 1993 when that happend. His real name was Mitch Williams and he didn't last much longer in his career after that incident. He was a mental case about that whole thing. Phillies were like one out away from taking that series to 7 games and back to Philly for game 7(if I remember correctly) and WHAMMMMO! Joe Carter's 3 run blast just ripped the heart out of we Phillie fans....

But hey, we'll see what happens this year!

But isn't this thread about Beckham?

[Will Hay]

But isn't this thread about Beckham?

Glad I didn't hijack, I'd have had had a yellow by now
Will

[VCDHunter]

Whose idea was it to defend, inside the area, for 85 mins ? A dour England team have been sent packing by an average Portuguese side and the tournament will be better off for it. Rooney aside they are a bunch of over hyped workhorses. Beckham couldn't beat an egg, Owen can trap a ball further than I can kick it and Scholes didn't look like he could pass water let alone a ball.

Still, it's good news for the vendors of plastic patio furniture

[Will Hay]

Whose idea was it to defend, inside the area, for 85 mins ? A dour England team have been sent packing by an average Portuguese side and the tournament will be better off for it. Rooney aside they are a bunch of over hyped workhorses. Beckham couldn't beat an egg, Owen can trap a ball further than I can kick it and Scholes didn't look like he could pass water let alone a ball.

The best analsyis of the game/situation I've read so far.
Will

[indolikaa]

Whose idea was it to defend, inside the area, for 85 mins ? A dour England team have been sent packing by an average Portuguese side and the tournament will be better off for it. Rooney aside they are a bunch of over hyped workhorses. Beckham couldn't beat an egg, Owen can trap a ball further than I can kick it and Scholes didn't look like he could pass water let alone a ball.

Don't hold back, please tell us what you really think of the situation.

Still, it's good news for the vendors of plastic patio furniture

Oh my...

[Desperate Jip]

"IT WASN'T BECKHAMS FAULT...I SAW THE CULPRIT"

HERES THE PROOF

[northcat_8]

Forgive me for being a stupid American, by why do Europeans get so emotional over a soccer match?

Because it is bleedingly boring to watch when someone actually scores not only are they happy for the point but happy just to have the boredom broken.

It's like watching blind kids play basketball.

You also have to remember it is their ONLY sport. They have Cricket and Rugby and god only knows why they all get more excited over sokker than they do rugby...but they do.

[VCDHunter]

You also have to remember it is their ONLY sport. They have Cricket and Rugby and god only knows why they all get more excited over sokker than they do rugby...but they do.

eh ? ONLY sport - but we have rugby and cricket

We also have Tennis (wimbledon on now), two types of rugby (league and union), Ice Hockey, Horse Racing (sport ?), Cheese Rolling and Darts (sport ?) for a start. As for getting excited about Football - aren't you yanks the only ones that don't :P

[Desperate Jip]

As for getting excited about Football - aren't you yanks the only ones that don't

N1 M8 8)

[northcat_8]

You also have to remember it is their ONLY sport. They have Cricket and Rugby and god only knows why they all get more excited over sokker than they do rugby...but they do.

eh ? ONLY sport - but we have rugby and cricket

We also have Tennis (wimbledon on now), two types of rugby (league and union), Ice Hockey, Horse Racing (sport ?), Cheese Rolling and Darts (sport ?) for a start. As for getting excited about Football - aren't you yanks the only ones that don't :P

That didn't take long.

It does seem that we yanks are the only ones who do not. But soccer is very active here in the US. They start at age 4 or 5. I do not count tennis as a sport unless Anna Kournikova is playing. She sucks at tennis but looks great doing it I've tried to play tennis, I'm horrible...I can't get it to land on the court...I always hit line drives

Ice Hockey? Talk to the Canadians about that Eh?

Rugby is cool, love it. I don't know the difference between league and union but I use to play rugby in a rugby league in Dayton. Always a blast. Next best thing to American Football.

Cheese Rolling....you know, I've been meaning to ask some of you guys about that. WTF are you guys doing over there?
Aren't you Chaps the same ones who ride that log down the hill too? or is that the Scotts? Maybe I'm alone here, but those 2 things don't make any sense to me.

[flaninacupboard]

i think the amazing commercial aspect of football has a role in it's weirdness. crisp flavours named after footballers?!
rugby seems more sensible with wage caps and no silly fast food tie ins.

[flaninacupboard]

That didn't take long.

It does seem that we yanks are the only ones who do not. But soccer is very active here in the US. They start at age 4 or 5. I do not count tennis as a sport unless Anna Kournikova is playing. She sucks at tennis but looks great doing it I've tried to play tennis, I'm horrible...I can't get it to land on the court...I always hit line drives

Ice Hockey? Talk to the Canadians about that Eh?

Rugby is cool, love it. I don't know the difference between league and union but I use to play rugby in a rugby league in Dayton. Always a blast. Next best thing to American Football.

Cheese Rolling....you know, I've been meaning to ask some of you guys about that. WTF are you guys doing over there?
Aren't you Chaps the same ones who ride that log down the hill too? or is that the Scotts? Maybe I'm alone here, but those 2 things don't make any sense to me.

cheese rolling, is where you get a cheese (a whole cheese is round) and, um, roll it down a long street.

scots have caber tossing, you toss a big tree as far as you can.

there's also the sport of morris dancing. well, it's a sport for me

[VCDHunter]

That didn't take long.

Rugby is cool, love it. I don't know the difference between league and union but I use to play rugby in a rugby league in Dayton. Always a blast.

If there were 15 on your team you were playing union. What position were you ?

Cheese Rolling....you know, I've been meaning to ask some of you guys about that. WTF are you guys doing over there?
Aren't you Chaps the same ones who ride that log down the hill too? or is that the Scotts? Maybe I'm alone here, but those 2 things don't make any sense to me.

What log ?

[northcat_8]

VCDhunter -
We were not that organized, and we didn't get into the whole X's and O's of it. It was an adult league and we pretty much just filled in where we were needed. I would imagine if you or some of your Englishmen were to have seen us play, you guys would wonder WTF we were doing out there I'm pretty sure we didn't have 15 players though...I can't remember that many names....but I'm sure we had more than 4 people...which is how many names I can remember. I was much younger...early 20's.

@Flan -
We have a TV program over here called "you have to see this" or something like that. I have seen you guys rolling cheese down some big ass hill. Hill or street...that doesn't matter...still seems kind of wierd.


The log I'm talking about is somewhere...not in the US....where a bunch of people sit on a log and they push the log over a hill and it slides down the hill. Several people are hurt every year they do it. It is some kind of a festival type thing, not an actual sport.

[Craig Tucker]

If you watch Beckhams penalty carefully you can definately see the ball move when he plants his standing foot, so I don't blame him for the miss. Did you see the state of the penalty spot after the game, it was in an appauling condition, worse than some of the pitches I have played on of a Sunday morning. And thats saying something.

[flaninacupboard]

@Flan -
We have a TV program over here called "you have to see this" or something like that. I have seen you guys rolling cheese down some big ass hill. Hill or street...that doesn't matter...still seems kind of wierd.


The log I'm talking about is somewhere...not in the US....where a bunch of people sit on a log and they push the log over a hill and it slides down the hill. Several people are hurt every year they do it. It is some kind of a festival type thing, not an actual sport.

the cheese is indeed kinda weird, but a tradition for those communities. hey, we didn't have DVD's back in the fifteenth century, ok?

as for the log riding, it's "Those crazy japanese fools!": http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/8401329.htm

and as for rugger, i'm sure you screwed it up big time It was the only sport i played in school and it was quite good fun, unassuming nerd type screams at opponents while attacking making them run away! i got told if i continued screaming obscenities at them i'd be removed from play!

[Desperate Jip]

If you watch Beckhams penalty carefully you can definately see the ball move when he plants his standing foot

It was like a sand pit m8 wasn't it. Also, I saw on the news that photographers were being chased off the pitch after the game for taking pics of the dreaded spot... Hmm, I ask u.

P.S. If ne feels like sending Mr Urs Meier there heartfelt feelings plz do so here. plz dont send h8 mail, just constructive criticism, (I think the guy could use it)

[rhegedus]

what interesting that your thread/post didn't mention Vassell, for who's penalty was far worse.

In years to come, no one will remember his miss - only Beckham's.

Poor bloody Beckham didn't know about the shitty condition the spot was in.
Shit happens I'm afraid

Yep - I'm with you. It was the same spot that 11 others scored from.

[Phantom Of The Opera]

Whose idea was it to defend, inside the area, for 85 mins ? A dour England team have been sent packing by an average Portuguese side and the tournament will be better off for it.

I'm afraid the words "dull", "uninspiring" etc. apply to all European soccer, with the exception of France (and possibly Holland, but the Dutch are so unpredictable you can never say from one game to the next which Dutch side will show up for the game).

If you want to watch entertaining, exciting soccer, you're wasting your time even thinking about watching European teams play. Go watch Brazil, Argentina, Columbia, Costa Rica, Nigeria or Senegal. Any of these teams will give you your money's worth of artistry and skill. Brazil is my favourite, and I'm not Brazilian.

[northcat_8]

and as for rugger, i'm sure you screwed it up big time It was the only sport i played in school and it was quite good fun, unassuming nerd type screams at opponents while attacking making them run away! i got told if i continued screaming obscenities at them i'd be removed from play!

Playing was a decision based early on a Sunday morning after quite few pints (England reference there ). Some guy mentioned it, we thought it was a good idea, we said "sure". Hell we didn't even know the rules. All I knew going in was the ball has to be passed backwards, you had to down the ball after scoring and you get to hit people. The hitting people is the only reason I wanted to play. It was great fun. After the games we would drink so much beer it should have been criminal...ahhh, memories.