Your opinion about this

[Capmaster]

SatStorm,

I think you handled it well. Occasionally we get people here who can speak but can't hear. I was involved in a thread one guy started where he posed as someone asking a question about how come his new CRT monitor plays movies better than his TV. Folks replied with their honest take on it, but this guy wouldn't accept anything anyone said. The thread quickly degenerated.

I think he started the thread because he wanted to brag about his new toy, and had nobody else to tell all about it. An odd reason to post, but, hey, there are a lot of odd people (don't say it .... ).

There are people here that don't want to hear any dissent from their opinion. They are right, you are wrong, and they want to beat you over the head with it. It's unrealistic to think that everyone who comes here has honest motives and is seeking legitimate help with their problem. Naked Geek comes to mind. Some people come here to sell stuff, some come just to argue and flame. Maybe this pacheco is one of the latter. Maybe the guy with the CRT was another. Sometimes you can't win and have to write off the thread, and that means "lockdown"

[Joe89]

The thing you have to realize about programmers is they normally don't know huge amounts about video. They worry too much about the science, but video is a mix of science and art.

I do not think this was meant to be applied universally to every programmer. Smurf did say "normally"...I'm sure there are programmers who are video experts. Just because you may know of 5 dogs that can drive a car doesn't mean all dogs can drive cars

As far as the kvcd issue, I've never heard of it. I've actually only burned one VCD ever and I just did it, so I could say I've done one. I only produce DVDs.

Satstorm, having quickly skimmed the thread, I think as long as the thread is on topic then heated debate is alright. The flaming was minor. I see it kind of like the Naked Geek situation. The original statement came under heavy scrutiny and NG did not defend his media very well or very intelligently, and just resorted to name calling and superior knowledge to dismiss the arguements he couldn't answer completely. I see this in a similar manner. If kvcd is that good, and the templates are that great, then the creator shoud be able to defend his stance or materials effectively...which he did not.

Should the thread have been locked? Well that is subjective and doesn't really concern me either way....besides you're a moderator...those are your decisions to make...that's why they pay you the big bucks

You know nothing of the naked geek situation other than the BS you have been told. Naked Geek did nothing but defend his company, all his answers to the questions asked were exemplorary. In fact Naked Geek is the only user I have seen on here in a very long time who seemed honest and actually knew wtf he was talking about. You seem to be mistaking "Cut off from the forum for no reason thus removing his ability to defend himself" with "dimissing arguments".

It is funny how you all talk about him when he is unable to respond. Why don't you all just grow the hell up and quit the Naked Geek bashing already. I can't believe Baldrick has allowed this to go on for 5 months now, he needs a serious dose of ethics. As do the rest of you. If you want to comment on a situation, get your facts right.

Joe89

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[Joe89]

There was absolutely no call for the bash on Lordsmurf. And I'm not saying that just because he has 4000 posts or because it was a newbie that bashed him. It was easily in violation of the AUP. So warning = yes. As for the locking, I don't know. If I were a mod, I'd probably want the other mods to let me know that they were going to unlock something I locked. Just so it appeared we were all on the same page. Sorry, it's that "military" thing coming out in me again....

*edit* Aw crap... I posted in "Off Topic." Does this mean I'm a post whore now like Indolikaa and Northcat?

*edit* and Capmaster....

And what about the countless bashes LordSmurf is responsible for in the past? Not to mention some of the other post whores here (Indolikaa, FulciLives, Capmaster) to name but a few, they seem to do nothing but bash other people. If anyone needs removing from this forum, it is them. Biggest example of hipocracy I have ever seen.

Joe89

[Capmaster]

And what about the countless bashes LordSmurf is responsible for in the past? Not to mention some of the other post whores here (Indolikaa, FulciLives, Capmaster) to name but a few, they seem to do nothing but bash other people. If anyone needs removing from this forum, it is them. Biggest example of hipocracy I have ever seen.

Joe89

Joe89
Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2004
Posts: 9

Well, if it isn't Naked Geek's defense attorney

Your comments are no doubt based on your long and noble membership here. It's good that someone with experience feels qualified and obligated to speak up about what's wrong with so many of us here.

It's just too bad that "time of day joined" isn't listed along with the date joined in the avatar box so you get full credit for all the minutes spent here and so that we can fully appreciate your venerable stature

[SatStorm]

Don't Hijack my threat mr Joe89. I suggest you open a new thread about this case.
The next hijack gonna be a warning for you....

[flaninacupboard]

You know nothing of the naked geek situation other than the BS you have been told. Naked Geek blahblahblah"dimissing arguments".

It is funny blahblahblah As do the rest of you. If you want to comment on a situation, get your facts right.

Joe89

OK, CMC dye discs never worked in my dvd player. ritek g04 ones work fine EVERY time. that's not an opinion, that is a fact, which is indeed straight. if his product were good the forum would have posts from people like indo and lordsmurf saying "i've canned my TY's, these NG's are great!"

i'm sorry to continue his petty argument sat, it seems all the religous weirdoes are out this month....

[Cobra]

all his answers to the questions asked were exemplorary

How skillfully he avoided my question - was he actually associated with Naked Geek Networks?

Baldrick can do whatever he likes with users here, and he has given his mods the authority to do so as well. This is his site, and I think a lot of users forget this. The banning of Naked Geek is not a subject for debate. It happened because the owner of this site wanted it to happen.

If some stranger were in your house or on your property causing disruption, you'd want to kick them out. Same thing.

Back to SatStorm's topic - locking a thread isn't the end of the world. There are always PMs, and if you think a thread has been wrongly locked down - contact the mod and give them a good reason to reverse their actions! They aren't psychic, are they?

Cobra

[indolikaa]

First off, I will address the SatStorm/vitualis issue.

I do not have a problem with the way either moderator handled the thread. Had I been SatStorm, I too would have locked it and issued a formal warning. The thread was headed right for a meltdown. Had I been online, I'd have jumped in and try to beat SatStorm to the punch.

By allowing a short cooling-off period, vitualis was able to unlock the thread and let everybody know, in a very subtle way, that the posters were on notice to behave.


Now, it's time for an Indolikaa Special.

You know nothing of the naked geek situation other than the BS you have been told. Naked Geek did nothing but defend his company, all his answers to the questions asked were exemplorary. In fact Naked Geek is the only user I have seen on here in a very long time who seemed honest and actually knew wtf he was talking about. You seem to be mistaking "Cut off from the forum for no reason thus removing his ability to defend himself" with "dimissing arguments".

It is funny how you all talk about him when he is unable to respond. Why don't you all just grow the hell up and quit the Naked Geek bashing already. I can't believe Baldrick has allowed this to go on for 5 months now, he needs a serious dose of ethics. As do the rest of you. If you want to comment on a situation, get your facts right.

Joe89

Listen up, *******!

YOU need to get YOUR facts straight regarding the Naked Geek situation.

Unless you are Mr. Hanff himself, you don't know shit about the Naked Geek situation compared to me. I was neck deep in the mess Mr. Hanff created when he couldn't back up his claims with solid facts. To this day, we are still waiting for a BLER report on the overall quality of his media. I have yet to see it here or anywhere else.

I spent several days dealing with inflammatory and threatening e-mails from Mr. Hanff and his posse, all because I refused to allow him to let one of my questions go unanswered. And until he tells me where he got his university degree in Organic Chemistry from, he is nothing more than a man who promises you the world but hasn't a shred of evidence to back his claim.

Mr. Hanff was removed for instigating a near-riot, spilling his disillusion into other threads, and IP spamming. His little post accusing someone here of conducting a DoS attack on his servers elevated his stupidity from ambivalent ignorance to breaking the law! Funny how the problem was traced to a database problem and not a DoS attack? Mr. Hanff doesn't know a DoS from his own A-S-S. He didn't need me or anybody else to prove that. But he wanted to be an *******, and I was more than happy to oblige.

As for suggesting Baldrick needs to get a dose of ethics? That's the ultimate example of the pot calling the kettle black, Mr. Joe.

Or is your name really Mr. Hanff, and you're just too chickenshit to admit it?

And what about the countless bashes LordSmurf is responsible for in the past? Not to mention some of the other post whores here (Indolikaa, FulciLives, Capmaster) to name but a few, they seem to do nothing but bash other people. If anyone needs removing from this forum, it is them. Biggest example of hipocracy I have ever seen.

Oh, I see.

I have survived 3,839 posts on this forum without a formal warning. I believe LordSmurf has surpassed my own personal record, as will Capmaster in time, no doubt. Do you really think any of us could've reached such stratospheric post numbers by simply bashing people nonstop, and get away with it? What, do you think the moderators are that ignorant, or are you assuming we big-time Post-Whores strike fear in the heart of any Staff member who dares cross our path?

You need a reality check, Joe.

Let's see, you have 9 posts to your name. Have any of them been helpful to any of the other members around here? Or was your sole purpose in joining this forum to take the opportunity to defend you and your Organic Chemists from the ridicule they so richly deserve?

I belong here as much as the next person. Maybe I'm not the expert on digital video, and that limits my contributions. So I give in other ways. I write the Newbies 101 seminars and the FOX News specials to make people laugh, including myself. If that's the best I can offer the community, well, I'd like to think that several hundred comic posts count for something around here.

Unlike your personal attacks, Joe. Which serve no purpose other than to arouse hatred and contempt.

And because I have a tremendous amount of respect for Baldrick and the work he's done to provide us with this community, let me just take the opportunity to express how I truly feel about you calling him an unethical person.

PISS OFF!!!

[northcat_8]

You know nothing of the naked geek situation other than the BS you have been told. Naked Geek did nothing but defend his company, all his answers to the questions asked were exemplorary. In fact Naked Geek is the only user I have seen on here in a very long time who seemed honest and actually knew wtf he was talking about. You seem to be mistaking "Cut off from the forum for no reason thus removing his ability to defend himself" with "dimissing arguments".

It is funny how you all talk about him when he is unable to respond. Why don't you all just grow the hell up and quit the Naked Geek bashing already. I can't believe Baldrick has allowed this to go on for 5 months now, he needs a serious dose of ethics. As do the rest of you. If you want to comment on a situation, get your facts right.

I was active in the Naked Geek threads, I didn't hear, I read it as it was written. I'm not here to debate this with you, I bad mouthed him when he was here to defend himself. You need to keep it straight, I never say anything behind someone's back that I wouldn't or haven't said to his face.

I used NG as an example because of the similarities of the 2 arguements. The guy with the kvcd templates is proud of his work as was NG, but when criticisms came, rather than give answers the poster tried to bullshit the forum users, got a "I know more than you" complex and just started name calling. This is entirely the wrong crowd to take that kind of attitude with and is why NG met with the resistance he did. When the NG media was comprable to Princo quality and was backed up by data from DVDinfopro, NG went off. Hey, if his media had came out comprable to Ritek or TY then his correspondence with the members here would have been different. But it didn't and then he went "Organic Chemist" on us and that was absolutely the wrong way to go.

As for your attitude with me... I don't accept criticism from someone who is not smart enough to read and comprehend the paragraph I wrote, and to understand that it was a comparison rather than a criticism of NG.

It's not like I care what you think anyway. You might as well save yourself the frustration and get over it, I piss off more important people than you everyday.

[tekkieman]

Now, it's time for an Indolikaa Special.

........

Listen up, *******!

..........
PISS OFF!!!

Go Indo.. Go Indo..Go Indo...

[northcat_8]

Indo makes friends so easily

I think it is his mild mannered, patient, loving disposition...

[Rookie64]

oh lookie...someone is lost and found their way into the wrong thread


Joe89 =

would someone be kind enough to escort our new lost friend to the door?

<insert Doors music here>

You're lost little girl
You're lost little girl
You're lost
Tell me who
Are you?

[SatStorm]

And as the Hippies said "express your deepest thoughs the most aggressive way you can"

indolikaa, are you a Hippy by any chance?

[indolikaa]

And as the Hippies said "express your deepest thoughs the most aggressive way you can"

indolikaa, are you a Hippy by any chance?

Now that made me laugh.

Redneck is a much more accurate description.

Now if you will forgive me? But my laughter has been taken to new levels, though, by the following PM I received from Joe89 this afternoon. Shall we?

Where the hell do you get off? You received no threatening emails from naked geek whatsoever, I know this for a fact. You are blatantly lying. Also NakedGeek did absolutely no fake posts/different ip accounts or any of that bullshit you are stating. Again I know this for a fact.

Also, the media did prove to be as good as ritek and has continued to do so over and over and over again, out performing ritek over and over and over again. Non of you idiots tried the media, non of you idiots had any place to comment on his media.

NakedGeek broke no rules on this site whatsoever. As for the DoS attack, Mr Hanff has worked in the IT industry his entire adult life, he has forgotten more about computers than you will ever know, he was a lecturer at university ffs. The site was indeed attacked, the person who attacked the site lost their job as a result of it, there was also a database error (which was caused by another attack).

You know jack shit about this situation, you just jump in feet first as usual spouting a lot of crap and drivvle. Grow the hell up you moron.

Joe89

And I fully expect you to copy and paste this to a forum or mod, I don't give a shit if you do.

First and foremost, let's get something straight right now. Indolikaa Khan is not a moron. Indolikaa Khan is an *******. We've been over this before on many prior occassions. I do wish newbies like yourself would do your homework before trying to insult me?

Thank your for the permission up front to copy and paste this to the general forum. Although I don't feel it is necessary to cut and paste to a moderator. They are always welcome to read any PMs that might be found in my Message Box. I, for one, never have anything to hide around here.

Unlike you, it would appear.

As a 3rd party, you certainly know an awful lot about Naked Geek's activities here on this forum. You claim I never received any threatening e-mails, you claim that no shred of evidence exists that Naked Geek. In fact, you've taken it upon yourself to crucify me for things you have absolutely no knowledge of, and you have chosen to do so in private communication because you obviously have no backbone!

While I can't speak for all the idiots here, this particular idiot never bothered to try Naked Geek media because Naked Geek never bothered to post any verifiable test results from independent testing laboratories. I noticed that his nice little thread was locked on fukrulez.com, with a promise from the Administrator/Moderator named Gringo that the thread would be unlocked when Gringo had a chance to test the media himself.

That thread has never been unlocked. Nor did Gringo ever bother to follow-up on his promise to bring the Internet community up to speed on his own personal test results of the Naked Geek media. I wonder why?

And to this date, I've seen no scientific evidence that Naked Geek media is in any way superior to Ritek. Now I am quite willing to take the opinions of those who use the media at face value. But, you are suggesting that I take the word of a bunch of newbies, who only signed on here to defend Mr. Hanff, over people like BJ_M, and Flaystus, and LordSmurf, and FulciLives, and many others who have burned thousands of DVDs. I'd like to also add these people have spent many hundreds of hours posting on this forum, and others, providing other people with helpful information and education on how to make a DVD! What have you and your cronies done here lately, Mr. Joe?

I read every single post of the 'Defenders of Mr. Hanff' and not only were all of them new members with little credibility to their name, they posted only to defend Mr. Hanff and inflate his ego. I ask you, Mr. Joe, can you name the member that posted the Naked Geek results on this forum? Did you look at those results? Do you remember what disturbed1 said in regards to those results?

To put it bluntly, they sucked Naked Geek ass.

You may call me a liar all you want. That's the offensive game plan I'd expect from someone who just got his ass kicked in front of 82,000+ members and God-only-knows how many visitors who read these forums. You'd have been better served to lick your wounds, or demonstrate your honor by engaging me in a public forum. You didn't do your homework, Mr. Joe, or you'd known how I react to inflammatory PMs.

You seem to know for certain that Mr. Hanff was in no way involved in any of these 'accusations' I've made against him. If that is the case, perhaps you'd like to enlighten us as to why Mr. Hanff was banned, and who performed the honors?

I know the story. Do you? I doubt it.

[VCDHunter]

Non of you idiots tried the media, non of you idiots had any place to comment on his media.

Are you French ? Otherwise, idiot, it's none.

[Cobra]

Can someone confirm that "Naked Geek" is actually associated with Naked Geek Networks?

I asked him during that particular war to confirm that he was who he said he was, maybe by e-mailing me personally from NGN or by changing the NGN website in a subtle but confirmable fashion. He ignored this - this screams to me that whoever it was was not associated with NGN.

He could, however, simply have avoided my question so he didn't lose face. It was bad either way - Naked Geek could either expose himself as a fraud or tear the company reputation to shreds.

This question still stands.

Cobra

[indolikaa]

I submit to you Exhibit A, the first return by Google.com if you search the term "Naked Geek Networks"

VideoHelp.com :: View topic - Now Wait a Minute...
... Like the return of Naked Geek Networks to videohelp.com. _________________ "Nuclear
war is the continuation of politics through more efficient means." ...
www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=221080 - 63k - Cached - Similar pages

The discourse on nuclear war strikes a similarity with another member here, does it not?

I would also like to submit Exhibit B, the sixth return by Google.com if you search the term "Naked Geek Networks"

Resume of Paul-Andrew Joseph Miseiko
... Work Experience, 2004 - 2004, Naked Geek Networks Ltd, Lancashire, Britain. ... Alexander
Hanff, paladine@naked-geek.net. Naked Geek Networks Ltd, Entrepreneur. ...
resume.teardrop.ca/ - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

I would like to now submit Exhibit C, the eighth return by Google.com if you search the term "Naked Geek Networks"

Audio, Video, Visual Products & Equipments importers,Audio, Video ...
... NAKED GEEK NETWORKS ALEXANDER JOHN HANFF 26 PROSPECT STREET, LA13BJ LANCASTER
UNITED KINGDOM, Dvd-R, Computer Peripherals, Hardware, Computer, Computer ...
www.trade-india.com/.../Consumer_Electronics/ Audio_Video_Visual_Products_and_Equipments/ - 56k - Cached - Similar pages

Can someone confirm that "Naked Geek" is actually associated with Naked Geek Networks?

I asked him during that particular war to confirm that he was who he said he was, maybe by e-mailing me personally from NGN or by changing the NGN website in a subtle but confirmable fashion. He ignored this - this screams to me that whoever it was was not associated with NGN.

He could, however, simply have avoided my question so he didn't lose face. It was bad either way - Naked Geek could either expose himself as a fraud or tear the company reputation to shreds.

This question still stands.

Cobra

Write him a letter. Couldn't hurt.

No, I think this was NGN himself. I read some of the shite he posted on his webpage, and the similarities in grammar and tone were remarkable.

[DereX888]

:yawn: gimme some Naked Geekess...

[tekkieman]

So, what exactly is the record for the shortest membership before a ban?

[fmctm1sw]

I guess I missed all this Naked Geek stuff...

[lordsmurf]

The thing you have to realize about programmers is they normally don't know huge amounts about video. They worry too much about the science, but video is a mix of science and art.

I do not think this was meant to be applied universally to every programmer. Smurf did say "normally"...I'm sure there are programmers who are video experts. Just because you may know of 5 dogs that can drive a car doesn't mean all dogs can drive cars

Bingo. I word things carefully.

[flaninacupboard]

It is funny how you all talk about him when he is unable to respond. Why don't you all just grow the hell up and quit the Naked Geek bashing already. I can't believe Baldrick has allowed this to go on for 5 months now, he needs a serious dose of ethics. As do the rest of you. If you want to comment on a situation, get your facts right.

Joe89

We have determined that a previous user account of yours was banned. It is our policy that bans must be lifted by a Moderator or Administrator before that user can return to the forums. Circumventing this requirement constitutes a breach of forum rules and so this account has now also been banned.
/ Moderator adam

Woooooooooo! couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.

Anyone live near lancaster? bit of a trip for me but it'd be nice to pay him a visit, just like the p-p-p-powerbook!

[Cobra]

Have car, will drive.

[flaninacupboard]

sweet! we could meet up near dudley and hit him with a double whammy!

[Will Hay]

sweet! we could meet up near dudley and hit him with a double whammy!

But why would you want to do this?
Are you really suggesting you turn up at this guys door and discuss some childish behaviour that happened on a internet forum?

Will

[Hardcoreruss]

sweet! we could meet up near dudley and hit him with a double whammy!

But why would you want to do this?
Are you really suggesting you turn up at this guys door and discuss some childish behaviour that happened on a internet forum?

Will

I agree.

Missed all this naked geek stuff and am now passing the working day by reading all about it, top stuff but people are getting a little silly in my opinion.

[flaninacupboard]

that's exactly what i'm suggesting. hey, perhaps we could take a computer and test some of his media!
Where's that graphic, normal person + internet anonymity = loud mouth bastard. not so anonymous when a beefy cobra is on your doorstep!

[Cobra]

I thought the and the would be enough to indicate that I was joking!

I wouldn't waste my time with him - what's he done to me anyway? He caused a minor disruption on this board, that's all. Where there is a community, you get individuals who cause trouble.

The mods have dealt with it. He's not a problem any more, so I don't care.

Cobra

[flaninacupboard]

I thought the and the would be enough to indicate that I was joking!

Spoilsport.

[indolikaa]

The mods have dealt with it. He's not a problem any more, so I don't care.

Hardly! You should see my e-mail this morning!

He's just been junk-mailed! Now, somebody pass me a