Rip speed fluctuates 0x - 2.0x max

[jimmalenko]

I have noticed fluctuations in rip speed at times just because of the disc itself - Star Wars Clone Wars only got to 3X I think because of the complexity of the encryption. I did it in smartripper and it appeared to need to decrypt about 60% of the blocks, whereas most other DVDs only have about 30-40% of encrypted blocks.

I gather that you have had this speed limitation on all DVDs you have tried to rip, or have you not progressed passed this particular one as yet ?

[daamon]

pop CSS crack method onto "I/O Key Excahnge" and try ripping the same title. if it fails your drive is for some reason resorting to brute force ripping, which is slow. if it works and you're still seeing slow speeds it may just be the drive is 2x locked.

Tried that - Same title, everything. Still doesn't go beyond 2.0x. Cheers anyway...

You never have told us who makes your DVD-ROM...

It's a "Relisys"...

First thoughts: bad disc or cheap ROM

It's been the same with every disc (all 15 of them). Following on from my reply to Gurm - it cost £27.61 from eBuyer.com (UK based), so I don't know if that's a cheap ROM or "not the best"...

I gather that you have had this speed limitation on all DVDs you have tried to rip, or have you not progressed passed this particular one as yet ?

Yes - 2.0x on all the different films and TV series.

My conclusion is that, as a few of you have said, the drive is locked to a 2.0x rip speed.

Thank you all for your help and input. I shall make sure I get a LiteOn (166 is it?) when I get to Oz.

Cheers and much appreciated, Daamon.

[jimmalenko]

I shall make sure I get a LiteOn (166 is it?) when I get to Oz.

I've got two...

The first one just says DVD-ROM DRIVE on it and is model XJ-HD166S, manufactured April 2003.

The second one says LITE-ON IT CORP on it and is model SOHD-167T, manufactured March 2004.

Both are excellent performance wise, both were listed as a LiteOn 16X DVD-ROM, but I'm sure the first one must be a rebadge or something...

[daamon]

Hi jimmalenko,

Cheers for the details - much appreciated...

[Gurm]

Actually the first one probably ISN'T a rebadge.

Lite-On is selling a lot of drives as JLMS now, or not even labeled as to a manufacturer.

Any 166 or 167 is a fine drive. Newer is almost always better with Lite-On, but they're functionally much the same drive.

As stated previously, the 166, while an excellent all-around drive, suffers from some limitations:

1. Mediocre Dual-Layer rip speed. Earlier today I ripped "Along Came Polly". It took about 15 minutes. Bleh. My old Hitachi GD-8000 only took 7 minutes to rip a dual-layer disc.

2. Purposely limited DVD +/- R/RW reading. Burnt discs are limited in the firmware to 8x on this drive. There are, of course, patched firmwares that up this limit to 12/14x (and even one that goes to 16x but I'm a little leery of it).

3. Audio Extraction speed is not as good as Plextor or Pioneer... but still just fine, ripping an entire audio CD in about 4 minutes.

- Gurm

[daamon]

@ Gurm - Thanks for the additional info, all useful stuff.

Do you have any recommendations beyond the LiteOn (based on your "1, 2 & 3" above)?

I can't see a section for DVD ROMS on the left, I'll have a look around to see if I can find what they come under...

Thanks.