Need help with Avermedia Dvd ezmaker pro pci

[Tperez2]

ah yes ccd charge coupled device if i remember correctly been a few years

[Tperez2]

I have made my first test cap with the aiw 9800 and i see an improvement over the avermedia caps. I have posted the file to shs website and i would like shs and lordsmurf to take a look at it and let me know what they thing if they wouldnt mind.

[FulciLives]

I have made my first test cap with the aiw 9800 and i see an improvement over the avermedia caps. I have posted the file to shs website and i would like shs and lordsmurf to take a look at it and let me know what they thing if they wouldnt mind.

What am I chopped liver? :P

What is the file name of this new file?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Tperez2]

oops . Just blame that on my bad memory for names. the file should be called tperez2 aiw.mpg

[FulciLives]

oops . Just blame that on my bad memory for names. the file should be called tperez2 aiw.mpg

OK I'm going to try and download it now ...

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Tperez2]

Ok let me say that again. I would like anyone who knows more about capturing video then me (that should be just about anyone) to look at the file and let me know what they think. I love this card. I have gotten what i consider good captures from almost all the softwares i have tried.

virtual dub, neo dvd and virtual vcr. the ulead vs had problems but i believe that its because of the verson that came with the avermedia card that was installed before. i was able to capture mpeg2 with the neo dvd eaiser then using the ati software but thats most likely because im more familar with it.

[FulciLives]

I can't see the file SHS needs to post a link to it I think.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[lordsmurf]

I have made my first test cap with the aiw 9800 and i see an improvement over the avermedia caps. I have posted the file to shs website and i would like shs and lordsmurf to take a look at it and let me know what they thing if they wouldnt mind.

Where is it?

@Fulci ... maybe not chopped liver, but some of those horror avatars look like sculpted ground meat ( )

[SHS]

FulciLives I have move it in order for you to see it becuase of that way the FTP is setup ocen a file is upload in the incoming folder that file is automatic hidden and can not be link.
Something I do check all incoming file.
Any way I done move check it out what you think of it FulciLives.

[SHS]

Sorry to say Tperez2 but there at lease 3x more visible mosquito noise artifact then when you where using avermedia card.

[FulciLives]

FulciLives I have move it in order for you to see it becuase of that way the FTP is setup ocen a file is upload in the incoming folder that file is automatic hidden and can not be link.
Something I do check all incoming file.
Any way I done move check it out what you think of it FulciLives.

OK I'm downloading it now ... it's pretty late so I may have to go to bed while it is downloading.

That pic you posted though is rather "scary" looking ... very poor quality.

Perhaps Tperez2 could tell us some details of this clip i.e., how it was captured etc.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[FulciLives]

YUCK !!!

That clips looks like SHIT!

Sorry but damn that is REALLY bad!

Sorry I wasted my time downloading it should have just known it was going to be bad from the pic SHS posted.

Blah

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Tperez2]

It was captured as mpeg 2 using ati aiw 9800 pro with s-video imput from my digitial cable system. Using 720 x 480 at 8000 kbps I guess i just wasted my money on this card. well i have a few days to either fix the problem or return the card

[Tperez2]

Ok posted one more clip using medium video soap from aiw lordsmurf since you are familar with these cards im hoping you can help me i would hate to return this one if it wasnt for these captures i would be very happy with the card.

[SHS]

Problem with that clip it was dark of show or moive so I del it and other two which like you didn't finsh uploading or you upload die on you it was which only has a few frame in it.
Use Cartoon becuase they show more visible artifact.

[Tperez2]

Sorry I must have uploaded the wrong clip. will try another one when i get home from work.

[Tperez2]

Can someone explain to me what causes these artifacts?? or can you point me to a website that will help me understand. Is it caused by the capture card or by the source video or maybe my computer???

I do know that the digital cable system uses mpeg streams that are fed into the settop box i wonder if that could be causing my problem since the video is already compressed when its sent to my system.

I bought this card because i beleved it would do a better job then the avermedia card. now im starting to wish i had bought the prv 250 instead oh well at least the video card portion is great i just hope i can get the captures to improve.

[FulciLives]

Well the cartoon clip which I downloaded and that SHS posted a pic of has what is called "mosquito noise".

This is due to poor MPEG compression. Now it is very possible that your source will have some MPEG compression artifacts like this ALREADY but that clip is SO bad that I highly doubt it was all from the source.

According to LordSmurf's website the ATI AIW have pre-built capture templates that are poorly set-up and that to get really high quality captures you need to create your own templates. Did you read his site at all and do that?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Tperez2]

No i didnt got the card installed late last night but i will when i get home.

Wish me luck

[SHS]

It very possable you may not able get rid of all mosquito noise becuase it coming cable box it self have hook up S/Video to a TV set to see how it look.
But that late MPEG clip from AIW was really bad.

[Tperez2]

Ok I am uploading my first capture using the settings in Lordsmurf's video guide for capturing mpg its callled ls cartoon.mpg Let me know what you think.

[SHS]

Hmm any reson it not why 352 or 720?.
It dose look a lot better

[FulciLives]

Hmm any reson it not why 352 or 720?.
It dose look a lot better

I don't see the cartoon.mpg file ... at least not in the usual place as with the other files Tperez2 uploaded.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[SHS]

I move it but I plan del being toww being the video size 320x480

[Tperez2]

Oops if thats the resolution then i made a mistake it was supposed to be 352x480

[Tperez2]

I have just uploaded a new cap to shs incoming folder its called cartoon2.mpg it was captured using the settings in lordsmurfs ati to mpg guide or as close as i could come. the sliders arent that easy to set to 3.50 and 3.42

It looks pretty good compared to what i was getting can someone explain to me what causes the "jaggies" seen mostly on the outline of the cartoon char s also around mouth and eyes

[FulciLives]

I have just uploaded a new cap to shs incoming folder its called cartoon2.mpg it was captured using the settings in lordsmurfs ati to mpg guide or as close as i could come. the sliders arent that easy to set to 3.50 and 3.42

It looks pretty good compared to what i was getting can someone explain to me what causes the "jaggies" seen mostly on the outline of the cartoon char s also around mouth and eyes

I downloaded the ls_cartoon.mpg and it looks really really good (the best clip you have posted by far) but like SHS said it was 320 width when it really should have been 352.

I did notice something ... though subtitle ... there are "bands" that go up and down the image as if some areas are darker or lighter than others. I've seen this effect before and it most likely is the fault of your reception.

You can see it by loading the file into VirtualDubMod and scaning quickly through a scene.

I'll download the new one when SHS moves it to the download area.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
The "jaggies" you see on your new clip are probably the result of using Half D1 (352x480). You probably won't see them if you use Full D1 (720x480).

But on a TV (as opposed to a computer monitor) it should look fine at 352x480.

[lordsmurf]

Show me jaggies. Put stuff here. I can't see what's not linked. I won't go hunt it down.

Anyway, sounds like deinterlace.

I want to see this "jaggie" you speak of. 352x480 and 720x480 will look the same.

It also begs the question ... how are you watching this test? Please don't say the PC monitor. TV needed, and a DVD-RW/DVD+RW disc.

[Tperez2]

Ok guilty pc monitor at the moment i did capture interlaced at least the sofware has encode interlaced selected. i dont have any rw media right now would hate to waste and r media guess ill have to run out and grab some. watching on monitor because tv i have right now is very old still has rotory tuner my nice modern set with componant inputs is in need of repair.

I guess ill capture something i want to keep and give it a test

[Tperez2]

also im sorry but i dont have an ftp or website so i have been sending the clips to shs im hoping he can post a link to them