Need help with Avermedia Dvd ezmaker pro pci

[SHS]

Tperez2 did check the AVI was there any thing wrong with AVI capture around 29 to 30sec mark?.
I scoop thur the drivers and INF but I don't see any registry entery which maybe self registrying.
But being you only that has the card one way find out is with GraphEdit
then select Graph> Insert Filters the scool down to WDM Streaming Multiplexer Devices dbl click on VerMedia 61051 MPEG Encoder clocse filter box and then rigth click on Filter (VerMedia 61051 MPEG Encoder) go to Filter Properties see there are any option being show.
http://www.shspvr.com/graph_build/download/graphedit_dx9.zip

[Tperez2]

It says the requested property page could not be displayed

[SHS]

Ok I know what mean I just you can't do that but did you check the AVI?.

[Tperez2]

Actually I didnt realize I would need it I deleted it before you asked me to check it. If you like i can make another capture.

[SHS]

No problem try this tools Handy Recovery http://www.handyrecovery.com/
hope lee can get it back

[Tperez2]

Yes now that i know what to look for I can see the block noise in the original file. I am uploading a new capture of a cartoon that seems to be eaiser to analyse

[FulciLives]

Well I just got done looking at the clip called, "avi2mpg.mpg" and I have a few comments.

First of all the field order was reversed at some point because I don't get smooth playback on my TV from that clip (although I did from the frist clip, "tperez.mpg"). Field order is definately the problem.

As for the image quality ... it seems a bit "grainy" and there are MPEG compression artifacts present.

Using BITRATE VIEWER I'm getting a MAX bitrate of 5815 but an avg of only 3410 (some the low spots are just under 20000kbps) which sounds a bit low for 720x480

So I can't tell if these MPEG artifacts are from the AVI to MPEG encoding step (user should have done 8000kbps to rule that out) or if perhaps they are just part of the source ... bad cable channel reception or too much dish compression etc.

Come to think of it ... didn't Tperez2 say that "movie" channels actually recorded well? Don't digital cable and dish etc. use less compression on "premium movie" channels?

In other words it could just be the source.

Would be interesting if I could get ahold of the original AVI (of this segment) and see what I could do with some AviSynth filters and CCE encoding.

I'm afraid that might tax poor SHS's bandwidth though :P

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
Tperez2 ... maybe you can try a capture from a high quality source like a DVD for instance.

[FulciLives]

Yes now that i know what to look for I can see the block noise in the original file. I am uploading a new capture of a cartoon that seems to be eaiser to analyse

How was this cartoon capture created? AVI then software MPEG or captured as MPEG?

- John "Fulcilives" Coleman

[SHS]

I'm afraid that might tax poor SHS's bandwidth though

Nope I have 500GB premouth and most it ever use 75GB
That cartoon.mpg was done by hardware encoder FulciLives.

[FulciLives]

I'm afraid that might tax poor SHS's bandwidth though

Nope I have 500GB premouth and most it ever use 75GB
That cartoon.mpg was done by hardware encoder FulciLives.

OK thanks I'm downloading the cartoon mpeg now.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Tperez2]

Actually the last clip cartoon.mpg was captured as uncompressed avi and converted with tmpgenc but i selected ntsc vcd by mistake uploading cap2.mpg now same process but sellected ntsc dvd using max bit rate 8000. I will try capturing from svideo port on my dvd player tomorrow. i think we all need a break. but i thank all of you for all your help

[SHS]

Tperez2 that toon2.mpg I just look at it the one he getting is with ducktales

[Tperez2]

I am now uploading a capture from my dvd player done at 8000 this should answer any questions as to wether the video source is causing my problems

[SHS]

Tperez2 take this this done with PVR 250 from S/Video from my Dishnetwork box with all latest drivers install using SageTV Recorder.
I take look at thoses clip you psot
ftp://ftp.shspvr.com/download/moive_clip/tperez_clip

[Tperez2]

can someone post a small clip captured with a AIW so i can see the difference?? The PVR cap looks very good to me.

[lordsmurf]

can someone post a small clip captured with a AIW so i can see the difference?? The PVR cap looks very good to me.

SAMPLE on homepage of digitalFAQ.com ... burn to DVD-RW to see it

[FulciLives]

can someone post a small clip captured with a AIW so i can see the difference?? The PVR cap looks very good to me.

SAMPLE on homepage of digitalFAQ.com ... burn to DVD-RW to see it

Your link is not working for me.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[SHS]

Tperez2 that dvd.mpg look pettey good

[Tperez2]

When you get a chance check out a few frames like you did the first file i sent and let me know what you find. Thanks again

[SHS]

I when thur dvd.mpg and was 100% a ok Tperez2 I didn't see problem what so ever.
You said you where recorder from Digital Cable rigth?, I just wonder what kind S/Video cable are you using.

FulciLives, Tperez2 I know you said look grainy but keep mind that old TV show and movie are usely are grainy in place in there original format.
If he was have grainy then cartoon would show this rigth way

[Tperez2]

Using a Monster cable THX V100SV S-VIDEO CABLE I thought if it was THX certified that it would be good enough. Can someone recomend a better cable??

[lordsmurf]

Your link is not working for me.
- John "FulciLives" Coleman

http://www.digitalfaq.com/samples/video/xmenevol.m2v
It's on the server, I verified it.

[FulciLives]

Your link is not working for me.
- John "FulciLives" Coleman

http://www.digitalfaq.com/samples/video/xmenevol.m2v
It's on the server, I verified it.

Not sure why but HERE in this post I can LEFT CLICK your link and select SAVE AS ... but on your website it will not let me do that and just clicking on it normal (with RIGHT CLICK) doesn't work here or on your website.

But I am downloading it right now.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Tperez2]

At this point I plan to buy an ATI AIW 9800 PRO unless someone has a good reason for me to stay away from this card. I figure with this card in my machine I should have a very good multimedia/gaming machine.

[SHS]

That S/Video cable is really good one I hope you didn't get something like 16' Footer that possable lee can cuase problem being that long I have some what the same type of cable, Then most like what is happing is most likely some of the error your see are most likely coming from Digital Cable Receiver could been build-in decoder or Video DAC output or even bad encoding on there side which is most likey where that error come from in first place like what you scean in that western show and it possable that Andy Griffith show as well.
I had that thing like western show error happing before on my end.
I seat down and recorder from min diff channel with Hardware MPEG encoder then do same AVI capture then Comparison them.
One Good soild way to do Direct Test Comparison is use a Home DVD Player.
On my Dish box some channel look real good where other like my local TV channel look bad and some other channel which are simie ok.
It all most in possable to see in REALtime unless the error more the 3 frame long then you usely see them on TV.
Here are same Example from TechTV and when around with TechTV and Dish about this problem to point where said hell with it no more TechTV recorder I stick with the other channel.
http://www.shspvr.com/images_other/techtv_anime.html
http://www.shspvr.com/images_other/techtv_geneshaft.html
http://www.shspvr.com/images_other/techtv_lastexile.html

By the way what area in USA are you in Tperez2?.

[SHS]

lordsmurf you call that good a clip even Tperez2 look more soild then this.

[Tperez2]

I just uploaded a 30 sec capture from my digital cable box from one of the movie channels. its called movcap.mpg please let me know what you think

[SHS]

Was it AVI to Soft or Hardware Encode?

[SHS]

Damm that look out standing Tperez2

[Tperez2]

That last one was a realtime mpeg 2 capture using 8000 kbps and vbr. Can you do a frame by frame like the last one and let me know what you think.