Philips DVDR75 problem with DVD+R Recording

[Sam Ontario]

I can never get it to record thru on the DVD+R. I have already made 5 Fujifilm DVD+R (Taiyo Yuden) coasters and 2 e3Works DVD+R coasters.
For unknown reasons, the recorder shuts itself something like about 2 hours of recording. These coasters were not on any timer recording just my Hi8 footages. When power on the DVDR75 again, the screen displayed "Unknown data format".

These 2 brands of DVD+R are very good with my Daytek P-30, no coaster so far.

It never exhibits any problem when the disc is a DVD+RW. Strange!

Called Philips service last night and could not get a right person and I was on the phone with over 30 minutes of waiting!

Will someone tell me which brand of DVD+R that might work with Philips DVDR75? Probably, I will return this recorder and buy a JVC M10 instead!

[SoundFX]

I was having similar problems with both a 72 and a 75. Turned out to be overheating of the units. After I pointed an 18" fan at the thing it started working better. Boy do these run hot! Ended up returning both units for audio sync issues. FWIW, I was using Imation brand media (RICOH i think).

[Sam Ontario]

I was having similar problems with both a 72 and a 75. Turned out to be overheating of the units. After I pointed an 18" fan at the thing it started working better. Boy do these run hot! .

The casing of the DVDR75 was not hot. I don't think overheat is an issue as I had many 4 hours of continuous recordings with DVD+RW discs, no problem at all.

[hech54]

Philips DVD Recorders are awesome and produce THE most compatible recorded DVD's of any of the other brands....BUT(there is always a BUT)...they simply are not ready(technology wise) to replace my VCR for daily recording. I own an old Philips DVDR975 which has never bit the dust BUT(another one) I only use it to record "important" stuff and I NEVER play commercial DVD's in it. My cheap little Grundig player does that job better than any DVD "Recorder".
My advise ?....get it repaired if it's under warranty but when you get it back make sure you dust off your VCR, go out and buy a CHEAP DVD player and then get yourself a computer DVD Burner to duplicate your Philips created DVD's.
If you work a Philips like a VCR you are asking for a world of hurt.

[Sam Ontario]

It needs firmware upgrade. Thanks for your replies.

http://www.dvdplusrw.org/Article.asp?mid=8&sid=10&aid=13

Edit: This could be an inherence design fault and will try to upgrade and then see the results!

[Sam Ontario]

Tried last night to upgrade the firmware, it came out the firmware (ff13k?) is already the newest. DVDR75 does not record well on any DVD+R. Its a Philips foundamental design fault. LiteOn or Daytek has no problem recording DVD+R.

The DVDR75 has a very good feature on inserting chapter mark and titles (thumbnails) to the +RW recorded disc on the recorder.

The disc navigation system as described in DVDplusRW.org is proprietary and I could not get my compiled DVD copied to another DVD+R or DVD-R.

Similary, a +RW disc recorded on my Daytek, could not be editted on the DVDR75.

Foundamental design deficiency products should not be put on market at all. Most probably, I will return it this weekend.

[hech54]

Similary, a +RW disc recorded on my Daytek, could not be editted on the DVDR75.

Same goes with Sony to Panasonic, Philips to Cyberhome, Panasonic to Pioneer.....whats your point?
These companies do not know nor do they care what format each other records in OR what chip they use.
Thats like going to a Chevy dealer for brake pads....and you own a Ford.
"All cars have brake pads !!!!! "

[Sam Ontario]

Similary, a +RW disc recorded on my Daytek, could not be editted on the DVDR75.

Same goes with Sony to Panasonic, Philips to Cyberhome, Panasonic to Pioneer.....whats your point?
These companies do not know nor do they care what format each other records in OR what chip they use.
Thats like going to a Chevy dealer for brake pads....and you own a Ford.
"All cars have brake pads !!!!! "

The point is from DVDPlusRW.org, with +RW, different manufacturers are supposed to be interchangeable for editing. They deviated from their own +RW standards!

[hech54]

Then how do you explain this:
Same goes with Sony to Panasonic, Philips to Cyberhome, Panasonic to Pioneer.

Is that Philips fault too?

[Sam Ontario]

Then how do you explain this:
Same goes with Sony to Panasonic, Philips to Cyberhome, Panasonic to Pioneer.

Is that Philips fault too?

Yes! They should not claim editing compatible when they are obviously not!

[hech54]

OK then. Go and buy a -R Recorder then and don't forget to have fun trying to edit those from manufacturer to manufacturer as well...

[andyp1]

Probably why 'Standalone' is a good term for them.

[hech54]

Exactly my point...but the original poster just cannot seem to grasp the fact that company A does not give a shit what company B is doing even though they are both using - or +.
Either edit your disc in the original machine and live with the menus OR do like the rest of the world does.....and that would be to live with the fact that what you want to do is most likely NOT going to happen and find a workound...like editing and adding better looking menus in your computer DVD Burner.

[Sam Ontario]

Read this?
http://www.dvdplusrw.org/Article.asp?mid=0&sid=3&aid=11

[rrhea]

I have had good luck with a Philips DVDR 985, if I do the following:

1) Use DVD+RW. DVD+R does not work well. Since this machine erases and edits the content on DVDs, it is important to use an erasable media like DVD+RW. After recording the DVD+RW (and selecting "make edits compatible" if necessary), I sometimes use my PC's DVD burner to copy the disc to DVD+R for a permanent copy. I have done this dozens of times successfully, and the discs play in several DVD players.

2) Make sure the DVD+RW is clean, without fingerprints or dust.

3) If the DVD+RW is scratched, do not use it.

[hech54]

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I like the above information from dvdplusrw.org MUCH better.

Face it Sam...you got a defective Philips(which admittedly is not difficult to do) DVD Recorder.....you're pissed....and now all +R related things....especially Philips products....are junk in your mind.
Do us all a favour and do a bit more reading and experimenting before you post such stupidity here and on dvdplusrw.org....you gave it a whole 3 days to come to these conclusions?

[Sam Ontario]

My conclusion is: Thats a site full of incorrect information! Full of outdated information!

Contrary to your perception, I like my Philips DVDR75 after upgrading to its newest firmware.

Edit: The site does contain a lot of valuable information about +RWs but will need update. I am a general consumer not an expert but Synergy is a very knowledgeable person about DVD recorders in this Forum. He could point out all outdated info. if you ask him nicely.

[OldeMan]

I have recorded more than 600 DVDs on my DVDR75/17 in the last year. Mostly DVD+Rs.

There have been two firmware versions FF16D and FF16F for my machine after FF13k. I have upgraded the firmware on mine at least four times, as it was a very early US model.

DVD recorders of both DVD-R and DVD+R types are sensitive to the quality of the media.

I will replace my DVDR75 when I can get a DVD+R/RW machine with Dolby 5.1 recording capability such as the upcoming Philips DVDR740 or 755....

Its not perfect, but I am satisfied with the quality and compatability of the DVDs recorded on my DVDR75.

[Sam Ontario]

As a general consumer, my next DVD recorder must be fault free, easy to use (even monkey can operate it) and with a lot of editing features compatible with PC softwares so that I can back it up easily after editing. Though I upgraded to the latest firmware, after 7 coasters, I have no faith in burning DVD+R. The PQ of DVDR75 is acceptable to me. Philips customer service sucks.

[abeelandig]

Tried last night to upgrade the firmware, it came out the firmware (ff13k?) is already the newest. DVDR75 does not record well on any DVD+R. Its a Philips foundamental design fault. LiteOn or Daytek has no problem recording DVD+R.

The DVDR75 has a very good feature on inserting chapter mark and titles (thumbnails) to the +RW recorded disc on the recorder.

The disc navigation system as described in DVDplusRW.org is proprietary and I could not get my compiled DVD copied to another DVD+R or DVD-R.

Similary, a +RW disc recorded on my Daytek, could not be editted on the DVDR75.

Foundamental design deficiency products should not be put on market at all. Most probably, I will return it this weekend.

Hi,
I had no problem copying my Philips DVDR75 burnt disks with Nero on my computer.

[FKrueger]

I had 2 dvdr75's, one dead after a year and 1 in for Philips warrenty repair since 9-2-04 and still no sign of it, for the problem you are having. I think the last update I did was ff15p, so the 16's would be newer. Both had the same problem, would start to record, then just shut down.
I have probably 6 different brands of +R's, all did it.
If you can exchange, do so, if it's under warrenty, it's probably going to need repair. My 1st recorder made approx 300 dvd's before it died. My 2nd recorder was dead out of the box, I got a good deal on it so I sent it in for repair and that was a mistake, should've returned it. This due to Philips and their very poor turn around for repairs. The brands that worked well when it was working were: Khypermedia, Memorex,Verbatim and Aritas. I had problems with Philips, HP (blue and yellow labels) TDK (of all things) and those cheapies from PC world that had no indication on the disc of what brand they were. Have you tried to play back the RW's? Mine would record to an RW, but on playback it failed.