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It's scorching in the UK today (Mon 7th), due to get even hotter and my PC has been on all day while I've been out
I get a reset when I try run TMPGEnc or the encoder within Pinnacle, but not for low-drain usage like typing this message.
Could this be a heat issue?
If so, could someone tell me the safe temp. and is the monitor in the BIOS accurate?
Many thanks,
Will
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I have a Athlon XP 1700+ running at 2025Mhz instead of 1456.
It runs at 34 celcius and 42 celcius when doing full encodes. Those are normal temps. Anything 70 and up I would start worrying.
LS
PS Not sure on Intel chips. Don't like overpaying for CPU's.
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My pent 4 2.4ghz pc runs 39c and 37c which I found out is ok. I have 2 case fans in that pc.
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will, grab mbm 5.0, it talks to the sensors on your mobo and shows you your temps. my XP2000+ used to run about 55 idling and 63 under full load. never had instabilities with it. sounds more like a memory issue, see if you can grab memtest and let it run on your machine.
It stayed at this level even during last summer when it was on all day on that really hot day (you know the one i mean
) so external temperature seemed to have little effect...
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Will, you may be onto something here fella - I had terrible problems with C&C Generals crashing yesterday in the heat of 80C. It maybe that the heat is pushing your system toward the upper limit, take the side of your case off and see if you can get a fan pointed at it - I intend to see if that works on mine later.
Buddha says that, while he may show you the way, only you can truly save yourself, proving once and for all that he's a lazy, fat bastard. -
It depends on CPU and model of CPU...
First call Mfg... I did for my P4-2G .. Intel told me 32 to 69 is normal operating temp and during full encodes it approaches 45-50 ish....
It will shut down at 70 I believe.
Also, I've read other posts that denote other P4's being 50ish at idle and an associate of mine has a AMD that is running at 75 most all time.
If you are concerned ... pull the side of the case off and blow a large fan into your machine.... I've read that will keep a machine running at a nice temp all the time. -
Hi guys
Internal temp was circa 49°c yesterday (according to the report within the BIOS), and having turned off the PC at 9pm and back on at 10pm for half an hour had absolutely no problems whatsoever.
Machine is in main bedroom, on all day yesterday (capturing for an hour but left on as I went back to work before capturing finished), in a cabinet under the window, window in direct sunlight, scorching yesterday, as I mentioned
Like an idiot (and not forgetting I had a virus recently and only just re-installed WinXP) I thought at first it was a hardware/software issue so tried re-installing XP...
....but the PC kept shutting down two mins into setup which eventually resulted in booting problems
Having let it cool for an hour at 9pm I re-installed WinXP without any problems.
Capturing again at 1pm today; I'll ask my wife to shut it down at 2pm
I have two case fans in there, would a third help or should I invest in something else?
Thanks for the heads-up folks.
Gratefully,
Will -
VCDHunter, 80C? that seems way too high! what did you use for transfer paste, peant butter?!
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It would be - if it were trueOriginally Posted by flaninacupboard I've just re-read my post and its gibberish, I meant to say the room temp was about 80F
and that Generals was crashing on the PC in that room temp. I've not yet checked out the PC temps but I am normally 55 idle to 60 under load.
peanut butter classic !
Buddha says that, while he may show you the way, only you can truly save yourself, proving once and for all that he's a lazy, fat bastard. -
I know people are going to
when they see this. Mine tops out at about 67 degrees Centigrade when encoding. I checked the spec on my chip and it's rated to 73.
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well your profile says you're OC'd, so that's probably why...
VCD, that makes a bit more sense
friend of mine was getting crashes in battlefield and UT2004, turned out his RAM was screwed - but windows still worked flawlessly It's a barton 2500 that runs at 43 under full load.
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I already have memtest - and I've never had it report an error. Most of my BSOD come from driver or codec conflictsOriginally Posted by flaninacupboardwell your profile says you're OC'd, so that's probably why...
VCD, that makes a bit more sense
friend of mine was getting crashes in battlefield and UT2004, turned out his RAM was screwed - but windows still worked flawlessly It's a barton 2500 that runs at 43 under full load.
grab memtest and run it - it's free!
especially with my ADSL modem.
Buddha says that, while he may show you the way, only you can truly save yourself, proving once and for all that he's a lazy, fat bastard. -
Another hot day today and mine is running at 49.
Will I think you can never have enough fans. I would definitely invest in another one. Or maybe some screw on fans for the base of your hd's also. -
woah, bsod on win2k? that's unlucky....
i saw one bsod on win2k, when my hdd died mid encode
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I've seen loads mate, seriously loads.Originally Posted by flaninacupboardwoah, bsod on win2k? that's unlucky....
i saw one bsod on win2k, when my hdd died mid encode
They used to happen midway through encodes in TMPGenc, or during a game of True Combat or simply surfing the web.
Touch wood - I've not seen one for a while.
Buddha says that, while he may show you the way, only you can truly save yourself, proving once and for all that he's a lazy, fat bastard. -
Athlon XP 2400+, stock CPU fan, aluminum mid-tower with three case fans and two power supply fans... 28-30 degrees celsius (CPU temp) at idle, 32-38 when busy. Even on very hot days, never seen it go over 40 under a full load. System ran significantly warmer when I had it in a steel mini-tower with fewer fans, though.
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P4 3.06ghz/533FSB
runs about 50c while encoding, upper 40s while idle.
case with one fan only, plan to install a second fan soon.-----------------------------------------------------
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Another thing to remember the thermal protection on Intels is much better than what's on the Athlon xp's or the Durons. Also the board you are running will play some factor by giving you better temp sensors. Also if you must overclock you MUST also Overcool. Room temp is going to effect the computers performance but also remember that cpu isn't the only thing that can get hot!!! Your PSU, video card, hard drive and Memory are all affected by temperature, not to mention the motherboard itself. Other things to watch out for in this hot weather is Humidity! Computers are not fond of it and can cause problems.
And as was said above different Processors have different max temps... Usually ranging for around 70C to about 90+C, so call you manufacturer or find out for sure if you think this might be a problem -
My Athlon XP 1800 is about 40c at boot and 50c under load for a while. I have 3 80mm case fans. My Videocard heats up the case also. I only have the stock heatsink/fan that came w/ the cpu.
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My room is currently 27.2 deg C, and CPU is 58 deg C under full load. I've overclocked it as far as it will go, and it's holding up nicely.
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My CPU is currently 74°c.
That's not good, is it?
Constant reboots and TMPGENc, Pinnacle Studio and Ulead Movie Factory crashes again tonight....
....and the PC hasn't been on much through the day
Willtgpo, my real dad, told me to make a maximum of 5,806 posts on vcdhelp.com in one lifetime. So I have. -
damn that's hot! i'd junk the HSF right now if you're still using the amd provided one!
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No 74c is not good, you have some heat issues to deal with.
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Shit.
I only just added a new HDD (I replaced a 30gb Deskstar) and the hot weather came at the same time.
The inside of the case, the metal, is extremely hot, is the HDD the culprit perhaps?
Clutching at straws here, but seems a co-incidence.
Willtgpo, my real dad, told me to make a maximum of 5,806 posts on vcdhelp.com in one lifetime. So I have. -
well it would contribute to higher system temp - is it hot in there? sounds like you need a better PC case.
but yeah, some hard drives are hotter than others. i have an IBM drive that is too hot to touch, and a bigger maxtor drive that doesn't get above warm
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I have a pretty good case, it's the Cheiftec scorpio.
What do I need to do folks, I can't see how a 3rd fan will help
I am using the supplied AMD heat sink and fan, but have no paste.
I've had this XP2000 for an age now and never had anything like this before.
Willtgpo, my real dad, told me to make a maximum of 5,806 posts on vcdhelp.com in one lifetime. So I have. -
first thing, go buy some paste. second thing, take of the HSF, clean the bottom of the sink good, really good. carefully clean the core with an alcohol soaked cotton bud. apply a microscopic layer of paste and reapply the HSF. check the fan is spinning and not clogged up with dust. if that doesn't help then you need a bigger cooler!
also, blowing 48degree air over the heatsink isn't really helpful. it means cutting up your case but ducting from outside the case straight to the fansink would help a LOT. -
I suggest removing the heatsink/fan and applying some new artic silver thermalpaste, put back on heatsink/fan and see how it affects the temp when running
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This taken at 22:55 (just now)
On the up; 60°c as I type, I'll try encoding, see what happens.
Thanks for the tips on a fix.
Will
EDIT 61°c : only have IE running, gone up 6°c in five minutes
EDIT2: only two minutes into encoding temp up to 67°ctgpo, my real dad, told me to make a maximum of 5,806 posts on vcdhelp.com in one lifetime. So I have.
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