xbox help ... getting 05 errors

[lordsmurf]

I bought a modded xbox. Want to have fun like all the other techies out there, Linux, PC games, etc ...

Anyway, I turn it on, get 05 error.

I see this is the fix:

Service Error 05
Info: Harddisk is not locked. A retail BIOS needs a locked Harddisk.
Solution: Make sure which XBox version you own, and then use "ConfigMagic" to lock/unlock the Harddisk ("ConfigMagic" can be found on the "Slayer's EvoX Installer" ISO).

I can't find this ISO software (it's freeware from what I've read). Anybody have it? Point me in right direction?

Entirely clueless. This is really out of my league, but I wanna try anyway.

[flaninacupboard]

kazaa is your friend - i got a whole load of hits - just don't know which is the relevant one.

[Faustus]

Sounds like its not a standard retail hard drive and yoru not using the mod chip, therefore it errors.

Make sure the chip is switched on, that is IF your chip has switches.

Failing that I'd ask the guys over at Xbox-Scene.com

[tmaxwell2435]

http://xbins.org/

[LSchafroth]

http://www.xecutor.com will help you and so will http://www.xbox-scene.com

They use IRC channels to get the ISO bins and such. I've modded three of them so far. I've not replaced the hardrive yet, so I haven't had to deal with those types of errors yet.

It is fun to run Atari, PS1 and Mame32 games while riding down the road in the Van.

[handyguy]

" Harddisk is not locked."

That says it all. lock your HD in the box to get it to work. Every xbox comes with a locked HD. You must unlock it to use it in another xbox, then lock it again.

[lordsmurf]

Okay. Now what about this scenario:

I have the xbox. I think the chip is fine (but it may not be fine). The HD is assumed unlocked. If I load software on a disc (I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing here) and then use it to lock the drive, what if it was already locked and the chip is really the bad aspect? Will I mess something up? Will I simply be unable to do any locking/unlocking anyway? What should I expect?

I'm not dumb, just very very new to this, taking small steps so I don't fry a $$$ investment.

Thank you for the help so far.

[tmaxwell2435]

All you should have to do is boot the ISO mentioned and lock the drive. You are not going to "mess" anything up.

With that said some hard drives cannot be locked.

[HillJack]

Anyway, I turn it on, get 05 error.

I see this is the fix:

Service Error 05
Info: Harddisk is not locked. A retail BIOS needs a locked Harddisk.
Solution: Make sure which XBox version you own, and then use "ConfigMagic" to lock/unlock the Harddisk ("ConfigMagic" can be found on the "Slayer's EvoX Installer" ISO).

Chances are, since you are getting a service error, the modchip is either a) not enabled, or b) faulty. The whole idea of a modchip is to fool the retail bios into thinking things are as they should be.

Depending on the make of chip, I would open the Xbox and see if there are any jumpers for enabling/disabling the chip. My Xbox has an Xecuter 2 Lite chip, which has an enable/disable jumper.

Locking a drive in an Xbox is not neccessary unless you intend to go on Xbox Live, which requires your disabling the modchip. I've run my Xbox for almost 2 years without ever locking the drive, and I don't do Xbox Live, and I've never had a problem.

If your modchip is disabled, and enabling it does not change your problem, the modchip could be a blank -- alot of them ship either empty, or with freeware/linux bios information to remain legal.

There is a DOS utility that will lock/unlock the drive if it comes down to it. You'd have to remove the drive from your Xbox and connect it to a PC and run the program. Well, I think it will also lock it -- I've only ever used it once to UNlock a drive after I downgraded from 120GB to 13GB. I would assume it will also lock the drive.

As for locking/unlocking damaging the drive/Xbox, it shouldn't. IDE drives have the locking feature builtin, it's just nobody in the PC world uses the feature.

As for Slayer's EvoX Installer, I would hazzard a guess that if you are getting service code errors, you can't boot ANYTHING, so having Slayer's ISO won't help you any. You need to figure out wtf is up with the modchip first.

[ps2daddy]

Do you have a chip installed or is it a TSOP Flashed xbox?
I assume you tried turning the chip on if you have a chip.

Error code 5 info
http://llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/hard_drive.htm

HD Tutorial
http://www.pcwizardwerks.com/xbox/tutorials/harddrives/hard-drives.html

Ditto to everything HillJack said

If you can still get a hold of the stock drive that came with it originally you can get the HD code and use it on a different HD if necessarry

xbox-scene has info on tutorials on how to do this

[lordsmurf]

I bought the unit from somebody that was low on cash, he was reluctant to sell it. One of my friends in another state lived close, tested it, and then shipped it for me. It worked for him, he wouldn't screw me.

When it arrived here, 05 errors.

The specs are: Xbox Version 1.0, Matrix Modchip (Solderless Install), Thomson DVD Drive, and 40GB Seagate Hard Drive. It was fine when my friend bought it. After UPS delivered it, dead.

I'm still playing with adjusting the chip. I'm thinking one of the pogo pins does not meet the board on one connection, it's hard to see.

[ps2daddy]

I bought the unit from somebody that was low on cash, he was reluctant to sell it. One of my friends in another state lived close, tested it, and then shipped it for me. It worked for him, he wouldn't screw me.

When it arrived here, 05 errors.

The specs are: Xbox Version 1.0, Matrix Modchip (Solderless Install), Thomson DVD Drive, and 40GB Seagate Hard Drive. It was fine when my friend bought it. After UPS delivered it, dead.

I'm still playing with adjusting the chip. I'm thinking one of the pogo pins does not meet the board on one connection, it's hard to see.

Yep those solderless mods can come loose during shipping (ones with wires can too if someone doesnt solder them down good)
Sound like loose connection to me also

[lordsmurf]

If I can find all my Macro filters, I'll take some shots with my D1 later. Curious if anything is wrong.

[ps2daddy]

If I can find all my Macro filters, I'll take some shots with my D1 later. Curious if anything is wrong.

(I have never installed one of these I installed a x-ecuter 2.3 in mines but but this should help)

You might just have to realing the pogo pins and check the D0 also try clearing some of the coating of the d0 and realinging

There should be a certain color led that lights up when you have the chip aligned properly when you hit the power (If I am not mistaken)
Take the xbox apart and look for the color light you get.

http://www.xodus-chip.com/ManualV1.1.pdf

[ps2daddy]

I read the guide
if the chip flashes red its misaligned

[lordsmurf]

Yeah,., see, it flashes orange in programming mode (normal) and then is solid green in on mode (normal). I think flashing green in swap mode (forgot the color, but it was normal).

So it seems the chip is good. The HD spins up... but I can never get past the flubber intro and a quick 05 service error screen

I'll read the PDF later and try to fiddle with it more.

THanks.

[lordsmurf]

Alright,
I tried with the chip and without the chip.
I tried the chip in all modes.
I tried the EVOX installer.
I put in real games.
I put in other utilities on DVD-RW. And on CD-RW.

This box will not do ANYTHING but go
that that horrible "05" service screen.

I think it got rattled to death in shipping.
The hard drive was likely screwed beyond use.
This is just a great big paperweight.

Anybody think otherwise?

[HillJack]

Alright,
I tried with the chip and without the chip.

If you are getting service error 05 both with and without the chip, then the chip is not doing its job.

I tried the chip in all modes.

(see above).

I think it got rattled to death in shipping.
The hard drive was likely screwed beyond use.

If this were the case, you'd get a different service code. I would guess the hard drive is still ok; when power to a drive is cut, the heads park, and therefore all movable parts cease to be movable. It would take one helluva jolt to damage a drive inside a case, and that jolt would surely cause damage to the case (and other components) too.

One way to tell for sure, make sure the chip is installed properly. Clean every contact that the chip touches.

Grab yourself another hard drive of atleast 8GB, that you know is 100% working.

If the chip is in fact working properly, you should be able to simply plug the new drive in and boot the system with the EvoX installer disc (I'll assume you are refering to Slayer's disc). The service code 05 shouldn't appear, because the Xbox doesn't see a problem anymore, and will boot your disc before attemping to load the (non-existant) dashboard.

If you STILL get service code 05 errors, then the chip is the problem, and I'd suggest you get yourself an Xecuter2 modchip, and throw that p.o.s. solderless joke away and save yourself future headache.

[tmaxwell2435]

From what I understand the Microsoft dashboard will not load unless the hard drive is locked. It sounds to me like you need to run a utility to lock the hard drive and then try to boot the XBOX without the chip to the default Microsoft dashboard. This will tell you for sure that the XBOX is ok. Then you can start debugging your chip problems.

[HillJack]

From what I understand the Microsoft dashboard will not load unless the hard drive is locked.

You are correct. My drive is currently unlocked, and I just attempted to load the MS dashboard --> error code 21, which is an "unspecified error" according to Superfro. In contrast, I also tried locking my drive, and apparently Quantum Fireball's don't support locking. Oh well

It sounds to me like you need to run a utility to lock the hard drive and then try to boot the XBOX without the chip to the default Microsoft dashboard. This will tell you for sure that the XBOX is ok. Then you can start debugging your chip problems.

Not being able to run anything on the Xbox sorta prevents a person from being able to lock the drive. AFAIK, you can unlock a drive in a PC using the backup information EvoX/ConfigMagic would have created for you (ie: the drive key), but you cannot lock a drive in a PC ahead of time, prior to putting it in an Xbox. If that were possible, the locking feature of drives would be useless; if somebody wanted to view the drive contents, they could just abitrarily lock it, and install it in another PC/Xbox and view the contents.

[lordsmurf]

From what I understand the Microsoft dashboard will not load unless the hard drive is locked. It sounds to me like you need to run a utility to lock the hard drive and then try to boot the XBOX without the chip to the default Microsoft dashboard. This will tell you for sure that the XBOX is ok. Then you can start debugging your chip problems.

This was my understanding too. But I cannot get anything at all to load. I put the Slayers' EVOX Installer disc on CD-RW and DVD-RW and CD-R and DVD+RW. Nothing.

I may go play around with it some more. Thanks HillJack, I'll see what I can do with cleaning and some other toying around.

[ps2daddy]

If you removed the chip completely and it still did not boot up to the regular dash then I think it still might be a faulty hard drive or somehow you drive got corrupted with a bad file

[ps2daddy]

Something else to consider:

If someone tried to do a TSOP flash and screwed it up they might have made the xbox work by bypassing the onboard bios and using the chips bios.

If the chip is faulty and no longer working correctly then you would get an error trying to boot to an unlocked HD.

The HD might be good if you checkout xbox-scene they have instructions on how to lock/unlock a drive on the PC if you can unlock it you might be able to view its contents and check out the drive or get important info
and to check and see if its working properly

If everything seems to checkout with the drive then if you got another chip it might work. (if the drive was unlocked and working) then it could have possible been a bad TSOP flash

[lordsmurf]

I pulled out IPA (isopropyl alcohol) and a q-tip and got to scrubbing. There was some black goo built up on the board, not much on the pogo pins.

I also felt the chip didn't make good contact with the board. That "line up the holes with the board" was a bunch of crap as far as I can tell. I moved the chip around until I felt the pins sync into the motherboard area. The holes did not match, but the chip felt more solid in place. I held slim mirror, flashlight and magnifying glass (not easy either!) so I could see under the chip. Looked good.

I also was not sure the chip pins were making good contact. I let the screw stay fairly loose, not so much pressure. I took 2 film-can caps (Fuji) and put them on top of the chip. I put a packing peanut on top of that, and the DVD-ROM now puts equal force on the chip, not just one stupid screw into the board.

The result? It boots up. It seems the chip as it arrived was not making good contact, likely from the black goo or unequal pressure on the pogo pins. Thanks for the help guys, this is going to be the perfect stress reliever.

[Faustus]

I pulled out IPA (isopropyl alcohol) and a q-tip and got to scrubbing. There was some black goo built up on the board, not much on the pogo pins.

I also felt the chip didn't make good contact with the board. That "line up the holes with the board" was a bunch of crap as far as I can tell. I moved the chip around until I felt the pins sync into the motherboard area. The holes did not match, but the chip felt more solid in place. I held slim mirror, flashlight and magnifying glass (not easy either!) so I could see under the chip. Looked good.

I also was not sure the chip pins were making good contact. I let the screw stay fairly loose, not so much pressure. I took 2 film-can caps (Fuji) and put them on top of the chip. I put a packing peanut on top of that, and the DVD-ROM now puts equal force on the chip, not just one stupid screw into the board.

The result? It boots up. It seems the chip as it arrived was not making good contact, likely from the black goo or unequal pressure on the pogo pins. Thanks for the help guys, this is going to be the perfect stress reliever.

The Pogos can be touchy, something like shipping could shift them. Of cousre mine has a light on it to tell me if they are lined up properly. All I had to do was boot it with the top open to make sure.

[lordsmurf]

My lights were always fine. I think it relies on 1-2 pins for accuracy.

[ps2daddy]

I soldered my x-ecuter 2.3b in and I havent used the solderless chips before but that doesnt sound normal the chip might be defective.
You might need a new solderless chip

If you need one soldered in let me know

[Faustus]

I soldered my x-ecuter 2.3b in and I havent used the solderless chips before but that doesnt sound normal the chip might be defective.
You might need a new solderless chip

If you need one soldered in let me know

Other then the stuff he says he took off it sounds perfectly normal for the solderless chips.

Good to know someone around here can solder.

[ps2daddy]

Other then the stuff he says he took off it sounds perfectly normal for the solderless chips.

Good to know someone around here can solder.

I didnt know the solderless chips were so picky I though that the chip might be bad since he had to use a flim canister lid and packing peanut to get it to make a good connection.

I am glad that he got it working though