My new hard drive won't let me capture on it, please help.

[Calico]

I already had a 128 gig harddrive installed on my computer and the other day I bought another 128 gig harddrive as my slave drive.

I store videos and mp3s on the new drive and I planned on capturing video to it.

However, whenever I tried to set the new HDD as the destination of the captured video, the program told me that my drive does not have a fast enough transfer rate, or something like that, to capture onto it.

I also noticed that whenever I access the drive to play videos or browse through the folders on the drive, my computer will bog down.

Is there anything I can to do speed up my drive?

[junkmalle]

You probably don't have DMA enabled on the new drive.

If you're running Windows XP: go to Device Manager, select IDE/ATAPI Controllers, right click on the IDE channel with the new drive (Primary or Secondary), and select Properties, select the Advanced Settings tab, finally make sure the Transfer Mode for the drive is set to DMA If Available. It's probably running in PIO mode now.

[Calico]

^^ok
I did what you said and the settings were already set on DMA. Anything other suggestions?

[jameshgross]

How is the drive formated, I dont believe you mentioned the operating system. What type of drive? Internal/external/USB/Firewire? You get the idea MORE INFORMATION NEEDED.

[hwoodwar]

Calico:

If the second drive is internal, do you have a 80-wire data cable connected to it? A 40-wire cable would cause it to default down to ATA33 speeds (vice ATA66, 100 or 133.)

[Calico]

Sorry about the lack of info.

It is an internal drive and my computer is running Windows XP. I am not sure what you mean by how it is formatted. Dol you mean the file system? NTFS? Both the master and slave drives seem to have the same settings from everything I have checked. In case it helps, the brand of the drive is SeaGate.

I have no idea what type of data cable is attached to it. I just assumed that since the drive is that same size and speed as the first one, that it would be okay to just add it without checking the cable. The drive did come with a cable, so I might switch them out.

[Calico]

Anyone else have any ideas?

[axolotls]

Is the IDE cable, 80 wire or 40 wire?? Should be 80.

[steveryan]

Are both hard drives on the same IDE channel?

[FulciLives]

Won't cost you much to return the HDD as defective and try another one.

I say that because it might very well be defective.

Just make sure you delete everything and re-format it before you return it.

But do return it as DEFECTIVE so they don't give you shit with getting another.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Calico]

Both drives are on the same IDE cable and I have no idea how to tell if the cable is 40 or 80.

I might just return it as defective.

[caliburn]

I had a similar problem with a Western Digital 80 GB caviar drive. Very slow data tranfer rate. Took forever to move info between it and my master drive. Turns out I had the jumper settings wrong.
I would try that first.
It's easy enough to see (usually the drive has a picture on it with the various settings). Set it accordingly (primary slave) from what I've read, and you should be A-OK.

Caliburn

[spiderman2k1]

Two hard drive on the same IDE cable have to be the same speed. If you have different speed hard drive put one of a different hard drive.

[overloaded_ide]

Two hard drive on the same IDE cable have to be the same speed. If you have different speed hard drive put one of a different hard drive.

Are you sure about that? It sounds logical, but I mix and match drives all the time and never noticed a fast drive getting slower when I add an old 8gig or something.

Right now one system has a 133ATA 7200rpm 120gig NTFS partitioned as 2 drives, and an old 8 gig drive Fat 32, both on the same cable. I still boot to the 8gig as Win 98 sometimes on that system is why that drive is there.
Mostly I am setting the system up with 2K on the 120gig, but copying files from the Win 98 drive just a few at a time, deleting the junks stuff. But I never noticed the 120gig being slowed down any, and it certainly seems to be a bit faster than the 8gig with I think was only a 5200 rpm drive, certainly the 8gig is less than an ATA133 more likely I would geuss an ATA 66 at best.
Also when mixing my ATA133 maxtor and ATA100 WD drives I never noticed the maxtor get any slower, and the controller was a 133


If you want to know if your cable is 40 or 80, count the little ribs/bumps on the ribbon. If you have 40 it is a 40 and if you have 80 its 80, if you have an odd amount like 45 or 75 you miss counted and go with the closet number or recount

If you have round cables, then most likely you have an 80 cable, I don't think I ever saw a 40 in round cables. Basically both cables are the same as far as connection, but the 40 has one ground/common and the 80 has 40 ground/commons. Also for ribbon cables the ridges in the ribbon are thinner for an 80 than on a 40. Finer wires.

If one drive ran fast and the other slow, then it's not a fault with the cable anyway if your using the same connectors. I would double check the Master/Slave settings on both drives. Personally I never use the cable select setting and know people that had various problems with cable select.

You said you checked the DMA setting already, but I'd double check it again.

Depending on your setup, I would move the slow drive to the other ide cable, or take out the fast drive and install the slow drive on that connector. Basically See if one runs fast and the other slow with the exact same setup. Set both to master only, install just one drive and see if it runs fast, then install the slow drive on the same connector and see if it runs fast or slow. If it is slow still, then you have a bad drive, if it is fast then it's something else.

[spiderman2k1]

Are you sure about that? It sounds logical, but I mix and match drives all the time and never noticed a fast drive getting slower when I add an old 8gig or something.

Right now one system has a 133ATA 7200rpm 120gig NTFS partitioned as 2 drives, and an old 8 gig drive Fat 32, both on the same cable. I still boot to the 8gig as Win 98 sometimes on that system is why that drive is there.
Mostly I am setting the system up with 2K on the 120gig, but copying files from the Win 98 drive just a few at a time, deleting the junks stuff. But I never noticed the 120gig being slowed down any, and it certainly seems to be a bit faster than the 8gig with I think was only a 5200 rpm drive, certainly the 8gig is less than an ATA133 more likely I would geuss an ATA 66 at best.
Also when mixing my ATA133 maxtor and ATA100 WD drives I never noticed the maxtor get any slower, and the controller was a 133


If you want to know if your cable is 40 or 80, count the little ribs/bumps on the ribbon. If you have 40 it is a 40 and if you have 80 its 80, if you have an odd amount like 45 or 75 you miss counted and go with the closet number or recount

If you have round cables, then most likely you have an 80 cable, I don't think I ever saw a 40 in round cables. Basically both cables are the same as far as connection, but the 40 has one ground/common and the 80 has 40 ground/commons. Also for ribbon cables the ridges in the ribbon are thinner for an 80 than on a 40. Finer wires.

If one drive ran fast and the other slow, then it's not a fault with the cable anyway if your using the same connectors. I would double check the Master/Slave settings on both drives. Personally I never use the cable select setting and know people that had various problems with cable select.

You said you checked the DMA setting already, but I'd double check it again.

Depending on your setup, I would move the slow drive to the other ide cable, or take out the fast drive and install the slow drive on that connector. Basically See if one runs fast and the other slow with the exact same setup. Set both to master only, install just one drive and see if it runs fast, then install the slow drive on the same connector and see if it runs fast or slow. If it is slow still, then you have a bad drive, if it is fast then it's something else.

All I can same is when I had a WD 120gig 7200 RPM 8meg cash and a 40gig 52RPM. I had alot of slow down. Would take about five hour's to rip a DVD. I ask the Best buy PC man and I told him the problem I was having and he said HD have to be the same speed RPM's or the IDE cable slow's down. So I bought a 40gig 72 RPM and the problem went away. may you do not have it with your mother board. I have a MSI 266A AMD 1.8XP. Do not know if that help's

[Calico]

well, I finally got some help from the Seagates tech support and they told me to update my BIOS...which I did, now it still is slow and my capture card is now not working...I want to smash my computer.

[johns0]

What dma mode is the drive reading at?It should read Ultra DMA mode 5.

[gmatov]

You had a 120 meg drive that was, apparently fast enough, so, therefore, the cable was 80 wire. You can check this by comparing it to your Floppy drive cable. Thick ribs, 40 wire, fine ribs, 80 wire, unless you have one of those "NO FLOPPY" 'puters.

Have you set the jumpers to Master/Slave on the 2 drives? Open the big install sheet that came with your drive and peruse it. It will show you in detail how to do so.

Why would youy buy a Seagate? They are always higher in price, hereabouts, even on sale, and they have not migrated to ATA 133, still 100..

Cheers,

George