HELP NEED

[littlelister2001]

Hi
I have got 95 DVD-R at 4x speed and tried burning a movie to watching it on my Philips DVD recorder. when i put a dvdi burned in it say no Disc. is there a special way to burning to play on a philips DVD recorder. i know these can work because we bought DVDs and the ppl use the DVD-R at 4x speed.

Can u help PLEASE

[pyrohydra]

Did you put any cheese in your Philips DVD Recorder?

[Supreme2k]

It's not the cheese, but what kind of cheese.


What type of movie are you burning? Are you rippimng a DVD, then burning? Using DVD shrink? What do you use to author?

Not enough information.

[pyrohydra]

Supreme2k is correct.

If you're PAL, you can put pretty much any kind of cheese in your player.

However if you use NTSC, those will only accept American and Velvetta cheese. I'm assuming you're NTSC. Is your cheese American or Velvetta? If not, then you have a serious problem (it's hard to get melted incompatible cheese out of players.)

[ZippyP.]

Does your player accept -R? Check it in the players section <-<-<- over there.

[littlelister2001]

i had a AVI file and encode it into a MPG file. My dvd player is a PAL and i think i did a NTSC i also conveted using TMPGEnc and uses TMPGEnc to author.

Yeah the play does support DVD-R according to the players section

[littlelister2001]

where could i get a tutorial step by step on creating a DVD-R at 4x speed for my philips recorder. Please help

[Abond]

(Joke mode on)

a tutorial step by step on creating a DVD-R at 4x speed for my philips recorder

Huh, sorry if you wanted a DVD-R at 2x speed I could help you, but 4x speed I don't know.
(Joke mode off)
Did you try to see that there are any files in the DVD you put in the recorder? Maybe the burn didn't occur or was simulated?
Funny avatar BTW

[littlelister2001]

I am going to try burning a avi movie to DVD but the films are NTSC at 29 Fps and others and to create a PAL DVD the fps need to be 50 Fps.

Is there a way to convert these files and if so how?

Thanks for looking hope u can help

[Floydscruffy]

buy a -rw disc and start trying. There would be less coasters in this world if you experiment with this media.

-first you dont know how picky your phillips player is.
-Do a trial using the TMPGencoder wizard saying that you want a european PAL Cheese output, since I think you stated that your player is Pal. Run the encoder, then author the movie and see if at least the player stops saying No disc, incombatible.
-You can probably cut the file and use a 10 minute segment

Once you have this down you can start experimented with more options.

[littlelister2001]

Yeah i would try that thanks but i also need to convert 29 FPS to a 50 FPS.
because i know PAL needs to be 50 FPS

Please help me change then i can experiment

[Duchess]

because i know PAL needs to be 50 FPS

No, you're wrong PAL uses 25 fps. However, you may not need to convert from NTSC since most European equipments are dual mode (both NTSC and PAL). I suggest you convert to .mpg with TMPGEnc and then use TMPGEnc DVD Author (or something similar) to derive the .ifo and .vob files needed for a DVD. Then burn them to a DVD RW for testing.

BTW doing an NTSC/PAL conversion can give you all sorts of problems, the least of which can be loss of sync between video and audio. Until you get better at this sort of thing don't do any conversions if you don't need to.

[littlelister2001]

Sorry about the mistake (PAL = 25 FPS)

I don't think my philips recorder will play them if they are NTSC so thats why i want to convert to 25 FPS from 29 FPS

[Duchess]

That surprises me, those equipments are new so they should support both NTSA and PAL. Anyway if you areb going to convert you will need to spilt the AVI files into video and audio files. Then convert to the PAL standards and then recombine.

There are various guides on how to do this so have a trawl through the guides on this site using the search too. A good start might be to look at https://www.videohelp.com/convert#4;41

Good luck

[VCDHunter]

That surprises me, those equipments are new so they should support both NTSA and PAL.

No - my player only supports PAL and NASA. It just won't play those pesky NTSA discs

[Duchess]

No - my player only supports PAL and NASA. It just won't play those pesky NTSA discs

ROTFL. That'll teach me to edit my posts a bit more carefully !

[littlelister2001]

hi i have sorted this all out and my player plays the DVDs but now i have another prob. when it plays the video stutters throught the film.

Can u guys help me again thanks for the previous help.

[Duchess]

That's because the conversion process deletes frames to drop the frame rate from 29.7fps to 25fps. This results in jerky movement, which I expect is what you are seeing.

Unfortunately I've never personally converted NTSC to PAL as all my equipment handles both formats so I can't really suggest anything to solve the problem.

Anybody out there who can help?

[Nilfennasion]

My understanding was that the frames were combined and blurred together, not simply deleted. The reason being in order to reduce the apparent jerkiness. The side effect of this being that the converted video will be interlaced, and when you step through it frame-by-frame, each step will be blurry, a combination of the new frame with the previous frame.

Don't forget that the addition of 96 vertical pixels to each frame, with the resultant effect it has on the compression, doesn't do the picture any favours, either.

[andyp1]

I don't think my philips recorder will play them if they are NTSC so thats why i want to convert to 25 FPS from 29 FPS

You don't think it will or it won't are two very differnt things. What model of Philips have you got and what country are you in ?

Most PAL equipment will playback NTSC , My DVDR75 will play all I can throw at it.

If you framerate convert and don't do it properly you will get jerkyness in the playback .

Try converting a small clip of your movie using the NTSC template in TMPGenc and Author and burn it to a disc and try it , you'll probably find that it is fine.