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    The following is the problem I am having. I live in Melbourne with many highrise buildings around me. TV reception is very poor using standard analogue receivers, so I use a SD Digital Set Top Box. I needed a new VCR so I ended up purchasing the Panasonic DMR-E60 DVR Recorder instead. Now here is the problem!

    1. I can record TV using its own Built in tuner, but reception is very poor.
    2. Reception is perfect using the SD Digital Set Top Box, but I can't record from it, because the DMR-E60 detects the material is copyrighted

    I am assuming it is simply detecting Macrovision. Is there any way around this or any better solutions?

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    It is odd that it is detection copy protection from the SD Digital Set Top Box. My understanding of how things work tells me that this should not be the case.

    What type of connection do you have between the SD Digital Set Top Box and the Panny DVD-R recorder?

    Is there maybe another connection method you can try?

    Does this happen with all channels or only certain channels ... or perhaps only on "special events" like Pay Per View items?

    The best fool proof way of defeating any form of copy protection is to use the analog outputs of your box (like composite or S-Video) and run it through a TBC device before inputting to the Panny DVD-R recorder.

    Only probelm there ... such TBC devices are rather expensive. Here in the USA there are only two models that I know of and one is about $200 and the other is about $300

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    Hi John,

    It's currently connected using using composite and with the Set Top Box I am viewing free to air TV so it really shouldn't be a problem.

    Can Macrovision be detected through S-Video?

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    Originally Posted by AmeliaK
    Hi John,

    It's currently connected using using composite and with the Set Top Box I am viewing free to air TV so it really shouldn't be a problem.

    Can Macrovision be detected through S-Video?

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    You will probably have the same problem be it composite or S-Video

    I live in the USA and to the best of my knowledge no set top box (at least so far ... knock on wood) adds any kind of copy protection to the video.

    Perhaps things are different where you are.

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    Thanks John,

    I may try another Set Top Box. This issue is a real pain

    I can't believe I had to post a support issue about recording from TV, now that's sad

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    Originally Posted by AmeliaK
    Thanks John,

    I may try another Set Top Box. This issue is a real pain

    I can't believe I had to post a support issue about recording from TV, now that's sad

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    Sorry but it does sound like your set top box is doing something BAD

    Maybe another brand or model?

    Don't know what to tell you ... but no reason to feel bad about it!

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    Thanks spiderman2k1,

    I think that may be a last resort!

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  8. The thing with macro boxes is that there is more than one kind of macrovision. I would contact your tv cable company & ask them what to do they might have a better cable box.
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    Originally Posted by handyguy
    The thing with macro boxes is that there is more than one kind of macrovision. I would contact your tv cable company & ask them what to do they might have a better cable box.
    A full fledged TBC such as the DataVideo TBC-1000 will kill any form of copy protection.

    However as I said that is an expensive option since the DataVideo TBC-1000 is about $300 US Dollars!

    So I would look into other options first such as a different set top box perhaps.

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  10. "FulciLives" Will the DataVideo TBC-1000 keep the closed caption Subtitle's. I have the www.facetvideo.com to remove macrovision but is also remove's the closed caption subtiltes. I also have the sima Video copy master does the same thing remove's the closed caption subtitle's.
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    Originally Posted by spiderman2k1
    "FulciLives" Will the DataVideo TBC-1000 keep the closed caption Subtitle's. I have the www.facetvideo.com to remove macrovision but is also remove's the closed caption subtiltes. I also have the sima Video copy master does the same thing remove's the closed caption subtitle's.
    Not sure about that but I think it does remove CC

    Might want to ask LordSmurf about it

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