Stuttering Effect Question?

[markatisu]

I am having a slight problem when removing some of the blockiness from some cartoons I am working on for my wife.

here is my problem, when watching the original the animation kinda stutters when panning across the screen , well when I put it in tmpgenc to clean it up some the end result always enhances the motion stuttering and even stutters the characters movements.

I have never seen this result before and am not sure exactly what setting it is in Tmpgenc that is causing this because it looks perfectly fine after encoding on any of the 3 computers I have but the minute I put it into the standalones it stutters all the time and is very annoying

I have tried re-encoding different ways and have reached the end of my patience, can anyone help me out with suggestions?

[mazinz]

it could be that the field is wrong. Have you tried switching top/bottom (vice versa). It is located on the settings/advanced tab. Having the weong field could cause this kind of effect. Try encoding a small clip and see if that works--

[teegee420]

It could also be that you need to enable 3:2 pulldown.

[markatisu]

I tried both of those and it still did not stop it so I tried Procoder (dont know why I did not do it before) and it did the conversion/encoding and no stuttering

I wonder what happened in Tmpgenc that Procoder did or did not do

[jimmalenko]

I am having the same problem with some animations I have capped off VHS. My field order is correct, and I remove some noise using an AVS script which contains my edits from VirtualDubMod (Thanks FulciLives). On the computer they appear fine but on TV the characters and the immediate pixels around them shake like all hell whenever someone moves.

I read on Lordsmurf's site that the "No motion search for still picture part by half pixel" setting on the Quantize Matrix tab "...affects the fluidity of movement...". I am yet to try without this setting enabled (I plan to do it tonight) but maybe it's worth a shot.

[markatisu]

"I read on Lordsmurf's site that the "No motion search for still picture part by half pixel" setting on the Quantize Matrix tab "...affects the fluidity of movement...". I am yet to try without this setting enabled (I plan to do it tonight) but maybe it's worth a shot."

I tried that as well and it did not help me but I hope it helps you, so far the only thing I have been able to do to get what I wanted and get it done right was to switch to Procoder, I guess it is some setting that I am missing in tmpgenc but its nice to see I am not alone with this problem.

[lordsmurf]

That setting has negative affects on smooth motion. Leave it off.

[jimmalenko]

What is your source ???

The interesting thing in my circumstances is that I have some VHS transferred through a ADVC-100 to DV AVI. If I load the AVI directly into TMPGEnc, add a noise filter and deinterlace, the output is perfect on my TV, but takes something like 12-15 minutes for every 1 minute of AVI. I only get the problem when I load the AVS script into TMPGEnc. I do not need the noise filter as it is done in the script, and the deinterlace has no real effect on the problem on or off, but it takes 3 minutes to every 1 minute of AVI, so I have a bit of a conundrum.

I'm thinking I might have to bite the bullet and just use the AVI directly, although its gonna take a while !

[markatisu]

The source I am working with is a demuxed mpg file from a vob (29.97fps, 704x480 I think) , it appears to have been a vhs to dvd recording but a very bad one (when I do my recordings from vhs to dvd it looks much better so I dont know if it was the source tape or the user themselves) and I was trying to clean it up some and the stuttering was noticeable in the original record but the cleaning up made the stuttering take center stage, but when I did the exact same thing in procoder the end result did not have the stuttering and the pic was just as clean as with tmpgenc so thats why i said it must be some setting somewhere I was missing