panasonic dvd-ram camcorder

[muskgrave]

Hello!
I am borrowing a panasonic camcorder that records straight to a min dvd-ram disk for a wedding I will be recording. I did a test recording at home and hooked it up to my computer, loaded the drivers and everything..and was able to browse the contents of the dvd-ram. I found the folder that had the actual video data on it but instead of it being a .vob file it was something like .vro or something weird like that. It did have the ifo and bup file however. SO! Here's my question. If I copy the vro and rename it to vob I can play it fine. Then when I try to convert it to mpg so I can extract the audio using Adobe Audition I get this MPL error when I try to play it. I tried to convert it using the womble mpeg editor. Should I be going about this a different way? I just want to clean up the audio and then author it with the cleaned up audio track and add a menu..Once I get it to mpg I know what to do...

thanks!

[Mikhail]

Sorry, I don't know the answer to your question but just wonder if using a DVD camcorder is your only choice.
The problem with such a camcorder is that you cannot edit your footage without serious loss of quality.
As for me a wedding is a very important event and it's better to find a MiniDV camcorder. Generally any MiniDV camcorder gets you better quality plus the ability to edit footage easily without any loss of quality.
Good luck!

[wingnut]

Morning,

the VRO file is a video recording object file and is used by dvd recorders as well as camcorders. If you run a search for people who are trying to edit DVDRAM recordings from a recorder such as the panasonic E50 etc you will probably find the answers you need. Alternately visit http://www.thewholewideweb.com/forum/default.asp?CAT_ID=7 for quite a bit of information.

If you have womble mpeg2vcr (www.womble.com) you can open and cut vro files by selecting open mpeg file, select all for file type then select the VRO file.

Post again or PM me if you're still stuck after checking out the above

Cheers

Edz

[muskgrave]

I have womble mpeg editor which I thought was a step up from the mpeg2vcr..I can directly import the .vro file into it and edit it..then tell it to output to mpeg. It does it's thing and spits out an .mpg file but when I try to play that .mpl file I get this "mpl load error" and a couple .dll errors with a file thats somethign like cpuins32 or something like that and then another..thats whe I don't really understand..if theres a decent program that can just convert from .vro to mpeg I would be fine.

This is the camera I was given to do the wedding..I really don't have any other options. But do you think perhaps theres just a problem with my computer? I've recorded things off tv using my ati aiw card and then edited in womble with no problems before but these .vro's don't work after I convert them to mpg. I am using windows media player 9 to test them and it is updated as of 2 days ago. I could just plug the file right into tmpgenc dvd author and make the dvd but I want to extract the audio, clean it up, compress to ac3, THEN go into the authoring program and burn it. I use Adobe audition to extract the audio but Adobe Audition doesn't understand .vro or .vob..it will only extract an mpeg2 or avi. Itried using VOBedit to demux but that was way too confusing....

[wingnut]

I have womble mpeg editor which I thought was a step up from the mpeg2vcr..I can directly import the .vro file into it and edit it..then tell it to output to mpeg. It does it's thing and spits out an .mpg file but when I try to play that .mpl file I get this "mpl load error" and a couple .dll errors with a file thats somethign like cpuins32 or something like that and then another..thats whe I don't really understand..if theres a decent program that can just convert from .vro to mpeg I would be fine.

This is the camera I was given to do the wedding..I really don't have any other options. But do you think perhaps theres just a problem with my computer? I've recorded things off tv using my ati aiw card and then edited in womble with no problems before but these .vro's don't work after I convert them to mpg. I am using windows media player 9 to test them and it is updated as of 2 days ago. I could just plug the file right into tmpgenc dvd author and make the dvd but I want to extract the audio, clean it up, compress to ac3, THEN go into the authoring program and burn it. I use Adobe audition to extract the audio but Adobe Audition doesn't understand .vro or .vob..it will only extract an mpeg2 or avi. Itried using VOBedit to demux but that was way too confusing....

Two things you could try quickly, (I'm at work but will check back later with more):

1. Try the mpg file, (I presume mpl was a typo?), in either powerdvd or windvd to see if it works ok, I'm not sure if WM9 is happy with mpg2 files as standard, anyone know?

2. TMPG DVD Author. This will allow you to import dvd files directly and is happy with the vro format file on a dvd ram disk. If you dont need to do much actual editing on the footage but just want to burn it to a dvd this may be your best bet.

Cheers

Edz

[muskgrave]

i wont be doing much video editing but during the reception i'll probably cut out the dead time and maybe do some scene transitions. The main thing I'm worried about is extracting the audio so I can clean it up. I'll have to wait till tonight to try it out.

dlv

[muskgrave]

I believe THIS might fix my problem. It seems as though the process I am using is correct but a couple of .dll files got messed up when loading something...

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t152598.html

The first post is as follows:

"I have suddenly developed a problem with trying to play MPEG files. Media player throws up the following errors with MPL loader:

1 The DLL "cpuinf32.dll can not be loaded

2. The DLL mplapx.dll can not be loaded

Can anyone help as to how to reload these, why this might have happened and what is the MPL Loader."

thanks,
dlv

[muskgrave]

that was it! there were actually 3 .dll files that somehow had gone missing from my windows/system directory! strange!

they were:
cpuinf.dll
mplapx.dll
mplvpx.dll

now it works!

now I am looking for a simple program that will allow me to adjust the brightness/contrast of an mpeg...will womble do that?

[wingnut]

that was it! there were actually 3 .dll files that somehow had gone missing from my windows/system directory! strange!

they were:
cpuinf.dll
mplapx.dll
mplvpx.dll

now it works!

now I am looking for a simple program that will allow me to adjust the brightness/contrast of an mpeg...will womble do that?

I believe the womble mpeg video wizard (NOT the mpeg2vcr) can do this but be aware that to do so it has to re-encode the video, (this will reduce the quality of the final video slightly but if done carefully it will still be pretty good)

Cheers

Edz