AVI to DVD MPEG (CCE or TMPGenc encoders)

[dvd_jr]

im sorry to reply so late, ive been busy on my projects and exams.

anyways, im still experiencing the size problem, the size of the video and audio ive encoded are a little bigger than the actual DVD-R size. i tried to overwrite it, but it turned out skippy images and corrupt parts, i thought it was a bug or something on my softwares, but then i tried to encode other smaller videos, and they worked. which telling me that the video im encoding is too big after its encoded. the original size of the video that i want to put on DVD-R is 1.37GB, .avi format. any ideas? this is the only video i couldnt put on DVD cuz size is a bit bigger... :P

[moraize]

Hi, Man, Very good your guide...

I´m completelly lost with AviSynth, to find the correct settings for The LanczosResize, and the Addboarders.

As I get many Divx Videos, with strange resolutions, I did´t understand how to correctly set this parameters...You sayed:

1- If your AVI is using a 1.33 aspect ratio (also known as 4:3), enter this text in Notepad as the next line of your AVISynth script:

LanczosResize(720,480)

2- If your AVI is using a 1.77 aspect ratio (Also known as 16:9), enter this text in Notepad as the next line of your AVISynth script:

LanczosResize(720,480)

3- If your AVI is using a 1.85 aspect ratio (anamorphic widescreen), enter this text in Notepad as the next two lines of your AVISynth script:

LanczosResize(720,460)
AddBorders(0,10,0,10 )

4- If your AVI is using a 2.35 aspect ratio (anamorphic widescreen), enter this text in Notepad as the next two lines of your AVISynth script:

LanczosResize(720,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)


In 1 and 2, you used the same settings, Why, if they where diferent resolutions??


How to calculate the resolution and the addboarders acording to the original AVI resolution (I couldn´t find out)...

Thanks...

[Sakuya]

If my split AVI has subtitles and I want them to remain as separate subtitle files, how can I merge the subtitle files together along with the AVI? Last time I did this, the times for the second half of the subtitles got messed up for some reason and took some time to make them right again. Is there a proper method to this?

Also, instead of creating a new joined AVI altogether, I just frameserved it into TMPGEnc. However, for some reason the first few seconds started off ok but then it became black and then it started all over again. That's very weird. I played it in VdubMOD and there were no repeats but a few macroblocks and then the movie starts. How can I avoid this? Will the AC3 extracted go out of sync since the M2V I created added that repeat in the beginning...

[marrty]

Often I have a problem with audio sync.
I convert it from Pal to NTSC
This is my working sample of avs script:

#NO ERROR MP3
AVISource("movie.avi")
# ERROR MP3 -EXTRACTED AUDIO TO WAV
# clip=AVISource("movie.avi",False)
# aud=WAVSource("audio.wav")
# AudioDub(clip,aud)
ResampleAudio(48000)
#RATIO 1.33 and 1.77
LanczosResize(720,480)
#RATIO 1.85
#LanczosResize(720,460)
#AddBorders(0,10,0,10)
#RATIO 2.35
#LanczosResize(720,360)
#AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
AssumeFPS(23.976,True)
ConvertToYUY2()
#Trim(95000,97000)

[DJRumpy]

Does the AVISynth script play out of sync, or just the final MPEG output?

[marrty]

the AVISynth script plays out of sync

[DJRumpy]

Then your source files are most likely to blame. Check the AVI file to see if it's in sync.

I'm assuming from the comments in the script that VirtualDub reported no errors with the audio from the AVI?

[marrty]

My source is :
AVI
FPS 25.000
ratio: 1.32:1
Virtual dub reports error.
AVIsync:
clip=AVISource("movie.avi",False)
aud=WAVSource("audio.wav")
AudioDub(clip,aud)
ResampleAudio(48000)
LanczosResize(720,480)
AssumeFPS(23.976,True)
ConvertToYUY2()
audio is late when paly AVIsynth in virtualdub

[DJRumpy]

What about the source avi? Is the sound in sync at the end and beginning of the video?

[jyn999]

My source is :
AVI
FPS 25.000
ratio: 1.32:1
Virtual dub reports error.
AVIsync:
clip=AVISource("movie.avi",False)
aud=WAVSource("audio.wav")
AudioDub(clip,aud)
ResampleAudio(48000)
LanczosResize(720,480)
AssumeFPS(23.976,True)
ConvertToYUY2()
audio is late when paly AVIsynth in virtualdub

@marrty,
Did you also create the audio.wav at 23.976 FPS?

[marrty]

When I create audio.wav I use VirtualDub and I go to the stream list and then click on save wav. I have no idea what FPS the saved audio.wav is. Maybe it'll solve my problem but don't know how to change the audio FPS.

What to do in case an avi file where the audio is already out of sync.
Is possible to fix the audio? Please let me know.

Thanks all of you for the advises what you've given , especialy DjRumpy. Once I read his guideline avi to dvd a couple month ago, I have done lots of dvds in very good quality!!

[gnslinger]

Ok, I havn't read through this thread since there are way too many posts, so I'll just ask my question and hope it hasn't been asked already. My video is PAL, and I changed it to NTSC, but my audio is AC3, so I when I encoded the video using CCE, the audio never got changed to NTSC since it wasn't part of the AVIsynth script. My question is, how do I convert the audio to NTSC? I have BeSweet, and I tried to do a PAL AC3 to NTSC AC3 conversion, but when I hit the convert button, it just goes straight to the log, and nothing happens. Any help here?

[buldre]

I have the same problem marrty is having, my .avs plays out of sync in VirtualDubMod

My .avi:

Video : 778 Kbps, 23.976 fps, 576*304 (16:9)
Audio : 128 Kbps, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, 0x55 = MPEG Layer-3

and the script:

clip=AVISource("video.avi")
aud=WAVSource("audio.wav")
AudioDub(clip,aud)
ResampleAudio(48000)
LanczosResize(720,352,0,0,576,304)
AddBorders(0,64,0,64)
ConvertToYUY2()

Any ideas?

[scotty47]

1. When I try to load the movie I downloaded in avi format in virtualDub 1.5.10 I get the error message " could'nt locate decompressor for format 'DX50'( unknown).
2. the guide tells me if my movie is not slit into multiple parts skip ahead to step 2, is it still in virtualDub when looking for Available Stream.
i hope these questions are not too stupid I am just trying to get into this. Thank you in advance........................scotty47

[jimmalenko]

1. When I try to load the movie I downloaded in avi format in virtualDub 1.5.10 I get the error message " could'nt locate decompressor for format 'DX50'( unknown).

You need to download and install a DivX 5 codec.

2. the guide tells me if my movie is not slit into multiple parts skip ahead to step 2, is it still in virtualDub when looking for Available Stream.

Yep. If you have just the one source file, then you don't need to worry about the "Append segment" bit, just continue on with the guide from going to the stream list onwards.

[scotty47]

Thank you jimmalenko for your speedy reply, now do I have to still use the guide AVI to DVD Mpeg to get this movie onto DVD....scotty47

[jimmalenko]

Thank you jimmalenko for your speedy reply, now do I have to still use the guide AVI to DVD Mpeg to get this movie onto DVD....scotty47

Continue on with THIS guide (the one at the start of this thread).

[scotty47]

I downloaded the DivX 5 codex, but from what i see it only plays the movie, how do i get it to be excepted in the virtualDud program. Thanks......................scotty47

[jimmalenko]

I downloaded the DivX 5 codex, but from what i see it only plays the movie, how do i get it to be excepted in the virtualDud program. Thanks......................scotty47

FILE > OPEN.

[scotty47]

Thank you.......................scotty47

[scotty47]

Am i dumb or what, i get the movie opening into Virtual dub, if I go to step 2 where do i find Stream. Thanks for your patience...............scotty47

[jimmalenko]

Am i dumb or what

Your words, not mine ...





Then go to stream list .... just like the guide tells you to do.

[scotty47]

thanks again for speedy reply, had wrong version, no wonder couldnt find it. ............................scotty47

[Roma81]

I have the same problem marrty is having, my .avs plays out of sync in VirtualDubMod

My .avi:

Video : 778 Kbps, 23.976 fps, 576*304 (16:9)
Audio : 128 Kbps, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, 0x55 = MPEG Layer-3

and the script:

clip=AVISource("video.avi")
aud=WAVSource("audio.wav")
AudioDub(clip,aud)
ResampleAudio(48000)
LanczosResize(720,352,0,0,576,304)
AddBorders(0,64,0,64)
ConvertToYUY2()

Any ideas?

I have the same problem (NTSC to PAL though) DJRumpy suggested this:
If your audio is MP3, you can try leaving the audio embedded in the AVI file. This script would look like this:

AVISource("movie.avi",True)
EnsureVBRMP3Sync()
ResampleAudio(48000)
LanczosResize(720,576)
AssumeFPS(25,True)
ConvertToYUY2()

I haven't had time to try it yet, so don't know if it works. Maybe one of you can find out.

GR

[booge]

I'm relatively new to the whole dvd creation process, and I've followed these instructions as best as I can. Unfortunately I've ran into a few problems.

First off, I'm trying to put a movie file that I did not encode myself onto DVD. GSpot has told me the video and audio encoding info, and I've joined the two parts with VirtualDub and extracted the AC3 audio.

The audio has been run through AC3Fix with no errors.

My AVISynth script includes the following commands along with the appropriate file path:

LanczosResize(720,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
ConvertToYUY2()


The preview in VirtualDubMod after this step seems to be just fine.

I run through the bit rate calculator (as an aside, the latest version of Java seems not to install properly on my computer, so I found a non Java calculator. I'm assuming the 'final size' is the total dvd size, so I input "4370 MB." I hope this is correct...)

I followed the settings given in the Cinema Craft Encoder example.

For pulldown, I could not find the exact program used in the screenshots, PulldownBatchFEBeta, but was able to get "GUIPulldown" and attempted to mimic the settings for the other. The aspect ratio was set to 16:9, frame rate to 29.97, drop frame is set to none, field order tff is set to odd, all steam and each frame is set to progressive.

After performing the pulldown, I checked the video file in WMP against the original movie file, but after pulldown the movie seemed to play about 1.5x as fast. The original playtime was 1:55x, and after pulldown the file was only about 50 minutes.

Can anyone tell me how to correct this? I'm assuming I'm missing something in the pulldown phase of the process, but I don't know enough about it to determine the problem

Thanks for any help you can provide.

[DJRumpy]

Sorry for being away folks. For some reason I'm not getting notified when someone is posting to my guides. Hopefully I'll get it fixed shortly.

gnslinger, you should use AC3Machine to convert your PAL AC3 to NTSC. It has a checkbox for just such a conversion.

For all of you having sync issues, make absolutely sure your using AC3Fix if you have a multipart AVI, and AC3 audio. If your AVI has MP3 audio, ensure you check it with VirtualDub to see if it reports a VBR error when opening the AVI, and then follow the guide section specific to VBR MP3 audio. There is also an alternative method for VBR MP3 listed in the guide. Finally, if all of the above methods still don't work, try dropping your joined avi into TMPGenc, and selecting FILE -> Output To File -> WAV. TMPGenc seems to do a good job of dealing with stream corruption, while retaining the streams play length.

Booge, The Pulldown Gui app you refer too has never worked for me. You get either garbled output, or just plain bad output. You can find the PulldownBatchFE program here: http://guiguy.wminds.com/downloads/pulldownbatchfe/down.html

and in the TOOLS section to your left

[gnslinger]

I just received an error I havn't encounted before. On the very first step, when I'm trying to append the segments, it gives me an error that says the audio streams have different sampling rates. Any idea what to do? Sorry if this has been asked already.

[DJRumpy]

This means that the audio frequency of your two avi's is different. Usually one of them will be a bit out of spec (like 44.2 Khz instead of 44.1 Khz). Its usually some odd, tiny amount, which makes VirtualDub throw up completely. It doesn't happen very often, but I have seen it before. A quick workaround is to join the avi's with AVISynth, rather than with VirtualDub

AVISource("c:\folder\filename1.avi").resampleaudio(48000) ++ avisource("c:\folder\filename2.avi").resampleaudio(48000)

The drawback here is if your avi's have AC3 audio. Otherwise it's a good workaround. Just be sure to append the EnsureVBRMP3Sync() command at the end of your script, IF your avi's have VBR MP3 audio.

[Phoenix2443]

OK. I've been using this process for the past few days and have had some success. However, I'm encoding a video which contains an audio stream which is 96kb/s monophonic vbr sampled at 44100 Hz. The video is 23.97fps. It uses DIVX4 codec. My issue here is since it's monophonic, I don't follow the exact specs for CCE when I encode correct? CCE says if the file is monoaural it will halve the bitrate. So I should enter 192kb/s and click monoaural or should I enter 96kb/s and click joint stereo. Also, this file is 44100 Hz so I shouldn't change it to 48000 correct? I'm concerned that the file will either be slowed down or sped up. I extracted the audio fine but I'm at this point. Should I run into any problems once I reach the pulldown stage either? My version of CCE is outputting a MPV file as well as an MPA file rather than any M2V file. Any help would be appreciated. I'm doing trial and error attempts but I'd appreciate it if I could save time.

[Jon_J]

At first I was having problems with CCE SP 2.50
A lot of the settings were either difficult to find, and/or were different altogether.
The dialogs are completely different than in the tutorial.
(CCE SP 2.67 dialogs match the tutorials exactly, I found out later)
In CCE 250, (when trying to Encode), I got these two errors all the time:
"Couldn't find 'movie.vaf' I had the box ticked [x] [Video information file]
It seemed like it needed this file before it was actually created.
My second error was: "No YV12 detected" or "no yuv2 detected" I tried to download these codecs, but YV12 needed quicktime installed. (I gave up on the quicktime) I installed yuv2 codec and then got YV12 errors in CCE SP 2.50
I cannot remember these errors exactly, but they prevented me from encoding my video altogether.

I gave up on CCE 2.50, I uninstalled it, rebooted and installed CCE 2.67
The above errors do not occur now with CCE 2.67
Note: CCE 2.67 needs: "EclCCE - ECL support for CCE SP 2.66/2.67" to open ECL files.

On to my current problem,
I've followed your guide exactly as shown and everything works fine for me except the following:
My audio is way out of sync in the encoded mpv file (I have only mpv, no m2v file)

The AVI I'm using, (specs from Gspot):

Title: lost.101.pilot.pt.1.hdtv-lol.avi

video
codec: xvid
Runtime: 00:42:41 (61,393 fr)
Bitrate: 981 kb/s
FPS: 23.976
X:Y: 624x352 (1.77:1) [=39:22]
Qf: 0.186 bits/pixel

Audio:
Name: 0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3
Bitrate: 157 kb/s (78/ch, stereo) VBR LAME3.92
Fs: 48000 Hz

When I got to the part where you drop your AVI into virtualDubMod, I got the mp3 Error.
Tutorial says "Launch VirtualDubMod, and drag and drop your first AVI onto it. If you receive a VBR MP3 error, note this for later and click OK."

I have virtualDubMod 1.5.10.1

There is no "OK" button, just Yes, and No, to the following dialog:
"VirtualDub has detected an improper VBR audio encoding in the source AVI file (audio stream 1)"
"The current preference is to rewrite the header with standard CBR values during processing for better compatibility. This may introduce up to 2780 ms skew from video stream. If this is unacceptable, decompress the *entire* audio stream to an uncompressed WAV file and recompress with a constant bitrate encoder. (bitrate: 157.2±13.0 kbps)"

"Do you want to rewrite the header?" [Yes] [No]
I always selected [No]

I went on and converted the audio to WAV in VirtualDubMod as described in tutorial.
I then made the following AVIsynth script:

clip=AVISource("lost.101.pilot.pt.1.hdtv-lol.avi", False)
aud=WAVSource("audio.wav")
AudioDub(clip,aud)
ResampleAudio(48000)
LanczosResize(720,480)

I then loaded this into CCE and used all the settings you mention pertaining to my video.

The calculated bitrate was 9570, so it matched the Max bitrate [9500] mentioned in the VBR settings.
In the audio settings, (In CCE), I set exactly as tutorial says. [224 kbits/s]

I Encoded the video, and in about 45 minutes, it was done.

I needed to use the pulldown, so I used PulldownBatchFE in the manner stated in the tutorial.

I played this movie, (the mpv file), using media player classic, by Gabest

I went about 15 minutes into the movie, (so I could get close-up human conversation), and the audio was completely off. (I was either "hearing" a conversation from a later scene, or a conversation from an earlier scene. I didn't have to play it any more, I knew it was out of sync.

What Do I need to do? or What Did I do wrong??


I just read the post on Dec 30, 2004
You say: "If your AVI has MP3 audio, ensure you check it with VirtualDub to see if it reports a VBR error when opening the AVI, and then follow the guide section specific to VBR MP3 audio"

Is that in this Guide, or a different one??

Also:
" There is also an alternative method for VBR MP3 listed in the guide." (Which guide is this referring to?)
Thank you for reading this,
Jon