CPU or Ram, or Video card matter on converting..

[SatStorm]

I only use AMDs and I love them.

Currently, I don't suggest someone to buy any cutting edge CPU (like athlon 64 or latest intels).
I suggest 2600 - 3000+ XP AMDs: Cheap, powerfull, stable and tested for this hobby.
The heat issue is a very old issue for AMDs. Example: In Hellas (Greece), 40C are typical (today we had 34C for example). My AMD XP 2600+ shows 53C and my fan is not even designed for an XP 2600 (it is the same I used for my 1700XP)

AMDs are great. Intels are "somehow" better, but really overpriced for this "somehow". Only when an application is design specific to "benefit" from Intel CPUs, you may see a difference (because there are examples that a software is designed for Intels and work better with AMDs- like TMPGenc plus 2.5 for example-

HT is also a Joke. A very overpriced joke.

[thor300]

The heat problem of AMD is only known to Intel owners for some reason. Me who live up in the cold north never experienced any heat problems, but i listened to the rumors too much and bought the most expensive fan i found in Philippines for the PC i have there (xp2100) and a housing with extra fans. All the extra noise from the fans was for nothing i think, but no problem, its so noisy there anyway.

[MOVIEGEEK]

You be the judge:
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20031223/cpu-guide-17.html


"HT is also a Joke. A very overpriced joke"
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040528/index.html

[thor300]

Nice charts geek, It confirms what been posted here already, intel is like 9-10-11% faster at how much higher clock speed? Not far from 40% i think?
(Ignore the red ones, those are overclocked.)

[FulciLives]

I don't understand that Tom's Hardware chart (the first LINK posted by moviegeek).

It seems to indicate that an Athlon XP 2600+ is faster than an Athlon XP 3000+

How does that make sense?!?!?!?

Anyone care to explain that?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[thor300]

Fulci, IGNORE the red, thats overclocked. Read only blue and green ones. really stupid to include overclocked stuff in a test. Anandtech rules, Tom is a gang of nerds.

[MOVIEGEEK]

"Anandtech rules, Tom is a gang of nerds"

First CPU's...now websites.

[FulciLives]

Sorry ... I was reading it wrong

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[thor300]

LoL moviegeek, i admit it then. I just always used Anandtech when i was still heavily into hardware, very good site. And you gotta admit its nerd to mix in lots of overclocking? Even experienced computer addicts like Fulci get confused.

[johns0]

I do service calls and i check the pentium 4 temps on 2gig hz and up and they all are over 50c.

[SatStorm]

Tom's Hardware was ONCE a good web site. Now IMHO is bullshit.

Also, I piss off when someone point me other web sites, which are inferior than this site here, for this specific hobby: Video proccessing. Expecially when those pointed sites ain't nothing than unofficial web sites, like our here, based on enthusiasts, like us here.

Moviegeek, have you ever read that crap last year Tom's Hardware upload, about the "perfect" PC for this specific hobby? Video proccessing?

[Sefy]

I agree with SatStorm, at first I was also impressed with Tom's Hardware but the more he grow popular, the more he seemed to have "sold out" to those who propably sponser him. I don't trust any of his "findings" or benchmarks and I rarely agree with any of his so called conclusions

[MOVIEGEEK]

"Moviegeek, have you ever read that crap last year Tom's Hardware upload, about the "perfect" PC for this specific hobby? Video proccessing?"

I must of missed it...do you have a link?

BTW...some AMD users can't handle the truth.

[Sefy]

It's it amazing that the only people who have overheated AMD cpu's are those with Intel ?

I Think it's the dellusional world they build for themselfs to feel good about spending twice as much for the same system

[flaninacupboard]

actually, i have an XP2600 and it runs at 62c under full load
Runs at 58c under minimal load.

[MpegEncoder]

actually, i have an XP2600 and it runs at 62c under full load
Runs at 58c under minimal load.

Sounds like you need to install the heatsink properly.

[flaninacupboard]

har de har har.

It's the retarded m-atx case design, there's about .5 of an inch clearance between the fansink and power supply. i had the same problem with my xp2000+, that ran at 63 under full load.

[hhhhbk]

thanks for the video processing tables link MOVIEGEEK

pentium 4 won by a fair margin when overclocked

am tempted to get a thorougbred xp2400 or 2600
my friend has managed to overclock his to 2400MHZ with a thermalright heatsink and big fan

his video editing stats would be pretty much the same as the athlon 64 3200

will have to see just how much the pentium 4 is when i come to order
cos the thoroughbred 2400 £45
abit nforce 2 motherboard (good motherboard) £45
thermalright heatsink £30
athlon would be 120 quid

whereas p4 is more than that just for the processor :P

[SatStorm]

MOVIEGEEK, the truth is really simple: The cheap AMD CPUs, do the job as good as the much more expensive Intel CPUs, in the mediocre market most users here, have to afford.

Another truth, is that a 5 min difference in a 3 hour encoding, ain't something that worth the price difference between a cheap AMD and an expensive Intel. If this 5 min difference is a so huge issue for you, then my friend, I wish you good luck with the daily problems of this life.

Because, I'm also an adult, I don't really care to proove to others that my dick is longer than what they have. Most of those who count their dick size, usually do it because they don't have something to use it for.

About your request, unfortunatelly I don't bookmark crap. Intresting stuff yeah, like Jeex farts. But crap stuff, no...

- Edit because I used too much dirty language on this post, sorry for this-

[FulciLives]

Is it just ME or has SatStorm gotten more loose with the dirty language since becomming a mod? :P

Who loves ya baby!

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[SatStorm]

I use dirty language occasionally. Expecially when I'm between 3rd and 4th beer....

[wuxiaaddict]

I have an AMD Anthlon 64 3200 2.01 ghz and 1 gb of ram and it convert my rmvb files within 20-25 minutes. My previous computer used to convert the files in 45 minutes. And if it an avi file that I want to convert to mpeg, it'll take just 15 minutes for a 35 minutes episode. I love AMD big time, it gives me great performance. I'll never go back to Intel.

[rhegedus]

Sorry to butt in this late but the February edition of CustomPC had a CPU shootout. Amongst the tests was a DivX to DVD mpeg2 test. The relative results are: (blue is standard speed, red is overclocked speed)



Looks like the new Intel chips kick AMD ass on this one

[INFRATOM]

Install Sandra soft (free) and compare your bench mark module speed with the other computer. Processing speed is a combination of CPU RAM HD speed mainly then the motherboard FSB. Optimizing your computer or pushing it makes a difference too. The best way is to bench mark. Sandra soft gives you all the info plus interesting tips.
http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/

[SatStorm]

Woa! That threat pop up after 2 years!!!!
Now that is something!

[scorps]

You neglected to mention that AMD makes a much better room heater.

For the same program processing the AMD can run as hot as 160-170 degrees if not hotter (75-80c) .. the P4's will run in the 100 (40-45c) degree range.

My Athlon 64 sits happily at around 38c most of the time. Seems to top out about 56c. if you can afford it I would suggest a dual core . These things fly if the software you are using is optimised for dual processors.

[pchan]

AMD CPU not cheap anymore. The AMD64 X2 4800+ cost 50% more than the Intel 840.

[rhegedus]

Woa! That threat pop up after 2 years!!!!
Now that is something!

Misread Jun for Jan.....

[SatStorm]

[mikiem]

FWIW...

I think a fair hardware comparison for encoding is motherboard based every bit as much as it involves CPUs. It's all too possible to have a great P4 or AMD 64, & throw away a lot of horsepower encoding because the board is Sh__!

For encoding you need to move a lot of data fast, and here the board rules what actually gets to your CPU & RAM & how quickly.

My un-biased opinion anyway. And... Intel really is great now that the weather's cooled -- haven't hardly plugged in the space heater.