skipping at the end of disks

[scottie255]

anytime i try to make a disk of certain tv show episodes (in no order), the last episode has freezes in it, then it skips ahead...it does this so much it isnt worth watching...and i have tried everything i can think of including burning at a slower speed, doing fewer episodes on a disk, and scanning the files for freezes, and nothing has worked....it seems that every time it is the last episode, which is kind of a waste...i have the exact same problem at the end of disks when i download full DVD-R disks and burn them, which makes me think it might have something to do with the burning itself.... so here's what i do:

open nero
go to DVD-ROM (UDF-ISO)
go to UDF
check Force DVD Compatibility Mode
copy the Video_TS and Audio_TS folders to the compilation
burn at 1x speed

i do that same thing every time and i use TMPGEnc DVD Author to create the Video_TS and Audio_TS folders....is there something different i should do?

[jameshgross]

Its media.

[andyp1]

Ditto

[glockjs]

when i download full DVD-R disks and burn them

[fritzi93]

For dodgy media, you can for example go to preferences in DVDShrink (3.1.7), change target DVD size to "custom" and enter 4200, or even less, if the symptoms persist. The point being, what ever you use, reduce the file size a bit. Classic crap media problem, usually you can avoid coasters by not burning to the very edge of the disc. Good luck.

[scottie255]

so you're saying i need better media and if i dont get different disks, ill have to just waste the last episode?

[scottie255]

FYI the current disks i have are ValueDisk DVD-R (or Kyhpermedia DVD-R) they came in a 50 pack spindle...

[andkiich]

so you're saying i need better media and if i dont get different disks, ill have to just waste the last episode?

You don't have to waste the last episode, just increase the compression so the whole DVD contents will fit under/around 4GB.

[scottie255]

ok my primary concern was the TV episodes, and the last disk i burned was approx. 3500 MB, which i thought would solve the problem, and the last episode was still messed up...it is the same if i put 8 episodes or 6 episodes (at about 500 MB a piece), the last episode is the one that skips.....

[SLK001]

ok my primary concern was the TV episodes, and the last disk i burned was approx. 3500 MB, which i thought would solve the problem, and the last episode was still messed up...it is the same if i put 8 episodes or 6 episodes (at about 500 MB a piece), the last episode is the one that skips.....

You need to define what "skips" are. It could be that your player is losing its laser, which would explain your issue. If you get all different colors of square blocks when it does this, then your problems are media related. If you experience picture freezes and skipping (but no pixelization) then media may NOT be your issue.

[ukcat]

I agree with others on Burn size. Go with <4 Gigs. Keep it away from the Edges of the DVD.

[MysticE]

Use Nero CD/DVD Speed and run a Tranfer Rate test. You want it to look like this :



Discs that have trouble at the end might look like this:



In the above example note the problem occurs after the 4G mark. As was suggested these discs could be used if you keep your destination size at about 4.1G.

[scottie255]

my defenition of a skip in this case is just a freeze in the picture and sound, then the picture and sound together skip forward to a few seconds later...the amount of time that is skipped ahead varies from one or two seconds to sometimes ten or more seconds...there are no changes in color of the picture or anything, it is just a frozen picture until the file begins to play again...also, i highly doubt it is my DVD player that is the problem, because i just got it about 5 months ago.....

i dont know how to post pictures, but i will give the nero CD/DVD drive speed test a try and post the results....

[MysticE]

FYI the current disks i have are ValueDisk DVD-R (or Kyhpermedia DVD-R) they came in a 50 pack spindle...

These discs are not held in high regard.

[scottie255]

i did the Nero CD/DVD speed test and my green line was pretty flat at 4X...there was one point where it spiked down and back up but the spike was small, and the whole rest of the time the line was flat...the yellow line started going down from the beginning and it went down pretty steadily all the way to the end, and ended up at about 1.8-2X...there was no dropoff at the end on either one, although both had the spike down at about 1 GB...
here is the picture it saved of the test:



well idont know how to get the picture up there, but i do have it so if somebody knows, ill try to put it up...

[scottie255]

so what do i have to do here? is it a media problem which will cause the wasting of the last episode on every disk? or hopefully, is it another problem that can be fixed and allow me to get the maximum use of my DVD-R's without wasting any episodes?....any suggestions will be helpful...

[jameshgross]

Once again, Stop using cheap media. Try Ritek G04.
The disks you are using are not of the highest quality.

[fritzi93]

so what do i have to do here? is it a media problem which will cause the wasting of the last episode on every disk? or hopefully, is it another problem that can be fixed and allow me to get the maximum use of my DVD-R's without wasting any episodes?....any suggestions will be helpful...

Did you read what Andkiich wrote? Increase the compression slightly so the DVD is less than absolutely full. How many episodes you put on is up to you, more episodes will mean more compression. Set target DVD size in DVDShrink to custom and enter 4200 megs or less, many here would recommend 4000 (4 Gb). I've used those KHypermedia blanks before, got a coaster, reset to 4200, all's well. Others have had similar experiences. Try it, then you'll know. Nobody here can say 100% that's the problem, but the odds are very high it is. Or take them back and order Taiyo Yudens. Complaining won't solve the problem. You have to find out for yourself what works, like everyone else here. All anyone can do is give you suggestions as to what you could try.

[scottie255]

ok....im not using DVD Shrink right now.....as i said, i use TMPGEnc DVD Author to author the files (after encoding them with TMPGEnc), then i burn with Nero....so is there a way to "set the compression to 4 GB" in TMPGEnc DVD Author? all i usually do is keep the size of the outputted file below what TMPGEnc recommends (4438 MB)....but I will attempt a disk below 4 GB and post the results, however, i am 99% sure that my last disk was 3600 MB at the most, and that is what started my concern....

also, if i downloaded a full DVD-R disk and tried to burn that, but the disk was over 4 GB, how do i ensure that there will be no skipping at the end of the movie?

[scottie255]

i burned a disk that had 7 TV episodes at 450-600 MB a piece, and in total was 3809 MB...episodes 1-6 were all ok, but episode 7 (the last one), was unwatchable with the skipping involved...it would play for a second or two, skip two seconds ahead and repeat for the duration of the episode......i burned this disk as a DVD-Video in Nero, as recommended on another site, but it didnt seem to affect my problem at all...i really dont want to waste episodes but if i have to because of the disks i have, then i will.....

[KAaPPa]

media problem for shure

[The_Doman]

Just use a good quality media and it should work ok.
I always fill my DVD's to the maximum possible, no problems here. Why waste valuable space on the disk?
The only time my DVD's started to skip was when I had put my dirty fingerprints on it.....

[scottie255]

i totally dont understand this, but i tried the same disk on another DVD player, and it worked just fine.....my original DVD player i believed could play anything, and the other one i thought was a piece of junk....it cant play PAL DVDs, and it always seems to have issues with DVD-R disks, but this one seemed to play fine....i cant explain it, but i think it solved my problem....i still have to watch the entire episode, but ill post the results once i do....sorry for any hassle i caused anyone....

[stinky2]

i've been following this thread avidly, since i too have wasted a gazillion disks trying to dvdshrink successfully. i've used crappy disks, expensive disks, crappy expensive disks, i've nero speed tested said disks, i've dvdshrunk to 4000mb as suggested, i've re-authored, i've even dvdfabbed as an experiment, but nothing would work. i'd either get a "disk error" message on my standalone dvd player, or the disks would start skipping and jumping all over the place. unless i burn to dvd+rw disks, which work just fine. anyone explain THAT to me?

[MysticE]

Well how did the Nero CD Speed 'Transfer Rate' tests look? Did you try them in anyone else's standalone?

[stinky2]

the nero tests gave me straight lines (green and yellow) start to finish at 4x speed. haven't tried another standalone player, but will give that a go later on today and will post results...

[martin474]

Try the disk in another player. I had similiar trouble with a small portable DVD and also a laptop. Turned out that the internal heat was causing the disk to go concave twoards the labeled side. Since this is most extreme at the outer edge (end of the movie) the player would not read properly and would pause, etc. Paper labels should not be used if you want the disk to work in a hot player. There is another thread with lengthy discourse on this subject and includes instructions for soaking labels off if you are interested in experimenting.

[lordsmurf]

KHypermedia is usually CMC.
Very typical results.

www.nomorecoasters.com for info on bad media

[Supreme2k]

Two suggestions:

1. Stop using shit media

2. Stop downloading shitty "full DVD-Rs". Don't be such a damn cheapskate and buy the DVD already.