$1000

[Capmaster]

I saw the mustang ranch on HBO...real sex (I think)....looks like my kind of establishment....it's like fishing in a pay lake Bobby's Buckeye Bar you say?...if given the opportunity, I must check it out

The Mustang Ranch is huge, and well-known. Bobby's is more off the beaten path ...the whole town of Tonopah is, about 200 miles N. of Las Vegas at the north end of Nellis Air Force Base. Bobby's is a place popular with the range crew up there. Last time I was in Tonopah Bobby's was still there, but who knows if it is now. That was years ago.

And, since we're talking about Nellis, let me dispel the myth circulated by the conspiracy theorists - there ARE NO ALIENS OR EXTRATERRESTRIAL HARDWARE IN AREA 51. :P I've been there and seen it. No little green men. Sorry.

[gitreel]

I would get an athlon 64 fx-53 and motherboard to accomodate that beast of a processor.

[pacmania_2001]

And, since we're talking about Nellis, let me dispel the myth circulated by the conspiracy theorists - there ARE NO ALIENS OR EXTRATERRESTRIAL HARDWARE IN AREA 51. :P I've been there and seen it. No little green men. Sorry.

Thats because they moved it a few years back to the White Sands Missile Range Utah Launch complex near Michael Army Airfield.

[Capmaster]

And, since we're talking about Nellis, let me dispel the myth circulated by the conspiracy theorists - there ARE NO ALIENS OR EXTRATERRESTRIAL HARDWARE IN AREA 51. :P I've been there and seen it. No little green men. Sorry.

Thats because they moved it a few years back to the White Sands Missile Range Utah Launch complex near Michael Army Airfield.

Someone will be doing a google search and find that. You might have just started a new government coverup rumor

I was visiting relatives out of town a few years ago and one of my dip-shit relatives through marriage, Jason, actually believed the whole Apollo 11 landing on the moon was a hoax, like in that movie a few years back with OJ and James Brolin ..."Capricorn One" I think it was.

I told him that if it were a hoax, and since the sea of tranquility is on the earth side of the moon, some geek running the Hubble would have zoomed in on the landing site and found nothing there, instead of seeing the bottom half of the LEM which still sits there. That wouldn't have stayed quiet very long. He said they should zoom in on it to see. I asked him if his parents had any kids that lived

[pacmania_2001]

I didn't start the idea.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/military/1997/6/new_area_51/

By the way, what classification level are you if you can into Area 51. It would have to be "above top secret" wouldn't it?

[Capmaster]

I didn't start the idea.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/military/1997/6/new_area_51/

By the way, what classification level are you if you can into Area 51. It would have to be "above top secret" wouldn't it?

I thought you were kidding. White Sands is in New Mexico, not Utah. And I've never heard of Michael Army Airfield. Probably bogus since the Army calls their facilities "Fort", the Marines call it "Camp". This hoax is so retarded they didn't even get the states right

There is no level above Top Secret. There are modifiers and endorsements that can be added to "Top Secret" to make it even more restricted, like for highly sensitive programs, however. The classification level is TS-RD (SCI). Top Secret - Restricted Data, Special Compartmentalized Information. Probably also WININTEL. I had the WININTEL modifier at the time, so I'm not sure if it was needed since it wasn't mentioned.

[indolikaa]

...and probably CNWDI as well...

[northcat_8]

And, since we're talking about Nellis, let me dispel the myth circulated by the conspiracy theorists - there ARE NO ALIENS OR EXTRATERRESTRIAL HARDWARE IN AREA 51. :P I've been there and seen it. No little green men. Sorry.

DAMMIT I was hoping for some green women so I could become a charter member of:

[Capmaster]

...and probably CNWDI as well...

CNWDI and Sigma 1 only if nuclear weapon design info is involved. There was none of that at Area 51.

People would be very disappointed at how un-romantic and mundane that facility is, and most others. I guess when an area is off-limits to the general public the imagination takes over. Human nature, I suppose. It's really no big deal

[indolikaa]

...and probably CNWDI as well...

CNWDI and Sigma 1 only if nuclear weapon design info is involved. There was none of that at Area 51.

There were never any nuclear weapons in Nevada.

[pacmania_2001]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/michael.htm

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KDPG

In reference to their being a Michael Army Airfield.

http://www.lib.utah.edu/digital/greenriver/about.html

Is what I think they are refering to in terms of the White Sands Missle Range Utah Launch Complex.

Have you got a link for what the classifications are in the US. I know what the Australian ones are because I have a few friends in the defence force.

[Capmaster]

...and probably CNWDI as well...

CNWDI and Sigma 1 only if nuclear weapon design info is involved. There was none of that at Area 51.

There were never any nuclear weapons in Nevada.

Right ....not in Nevada It was "Agricultural Research"

[pacmania_2001]

Reading those two sites I posted though it seems to contradict most of what the Popular Mechanics article says though.

[Capmaster]

Got this from the PM article.

Oh, this is priceless. "Above Top Secret", like there really is such a classification? LMFAO

And the fingerprint on the badge??? It looks like something hollywood came up with. How completely lame :P

And there's no mention of the bearer's agency affiliation. That's something that's on ALL high-security badges. As is a photo. Sheesh. And it makes no mention of the fact that Area 51 is a DoD facility. Hahaha :P This isn't worth wasting any more time on :P

[pacmania_2001]

If I were to hazard a guess I would say that Popular Mechanics would probably use a stock photography service like Corbis for filler photos like that.

Post up a pic of your badge. I want to see if my forgery looks right.

[Capmaster]

If I were to hazard a guess I would say that Popular Mechanics would probably use a stock photography service like Corbis for filler photos like that.

Post up a pic of your badge. I want to see if my forgery looks right.

I don't think I want to do that. Our badges are considered sensitive and we're only supposed to use or carry them while on base. We have wallet ID cards for off-base ID purposes.

We've had people trying to get into the tech area with forged badges before. One illegal Mexican immigrant once actually got over an electric fence and through a small perimeter minefield at a facility in the Manzano mountains before they picked him up. He was looking for work, saw the base and figured that whoever the rancher was must be rich, since it was so large Needless to say they audited the security after that.

Once you see a real badge, you'll recognize the one above as something that might come with a "Junior Spy" kit that you'd buy for a child.

[pacmania_2001]

Wouldn't your badges contain things like biometric information, RF chips etc to prevent forgery?

[Capmaster]

Wouldn't your badges contain things like biometric information, RF chips etc to prevent forgery?

I think we're treading on uncertain ground here, given our reporting requirements when it comes to requests for badge images, specific information, etc. We have a counterintelligence department here that does nothing but investigate requests like this from the outside. Let's just let the mentions of my badge drop here. I don't want to have to explain it later strapped to a polygraph machine

Here is something I can provide - it's an outdated badge of mine from a DoD contractor I used to frequent for my job here. It's completely not sensitive since it's obsolete. The facility is General Dynamics in San Diego.

The colored box behind my name identifies it as an outside agency. I substituted VIDEOHELP for the actual agency. The orange color designates it as Top Secret level. It's not my best picture, but it'll do

[pacmania_2001]

Wouldn't be the first time I've been investigated by counter intelligence (Indolikaa knows what I'm talking about )

[Capmaster]

Wouldn't be the first time I've been investigated by counter intelligence (Indolikaa knows what I'm talking about )

Then you know all about how anal these anti-spooks can get at times

[pacmania_2001]

So I guess its too late to take back that email I sent with a link to this thread that I sent to them?

[Capmaster]

So I guess its too late to take back that email I sent with a link to this thread that I sent to them?

They're probably already monitoring this thread ...from their ultra-secret facility in Colorado ...or is it under the basement of the Massengill factory in Douche Bag, Louisiana

[pacmania_2001]

It depends really. You've got the main headquarters at the NSA but then you've got the Echelon outposts in different countries.

Because I'm in Australia it would probably be the Shoal Bay/Pine Rivers joint US/Australia facility there doing the intercepts/monitoring.

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They're probably already monitoring this thread.

That's funny. They are.

Offline CMPC :P

You guys are for it... esp. with that douche bag crapola!!!!

[Capmaster]

They're probably already monitoring this thread.

That's funny. They are.

Offline CMPC :P

You guys are for it... esp. with that douche bag crapola!!!!

Maybe that was over the top

Because I'm in Australia it would probably be the Shoal Bay/Pine Rivers joint US/Australia facility there doing the intercepts/monitoring.

True. The NSA has a huge antenna farm in Oz.

I was offered a job by them as an intelligence analyst specializing in weapons analysis. I turned it down because I didn't want to live in Maryland, and their retirement plan blows. Plus, all that spook stuff generates too much stomach acid. :P

[pacmania_2001]

I was offered a job by them as an intelligence analyst specializing in weapons analysis. I turned it down because I didn't want to live in Maryland, and their retirement plan blows. Plus, all that spook stuff generates too much stomach acid.

You just didn't like wearing the black suit and sunnies right?

Damn we maybe could have worked together in a few years time.

True. The NSA has a huge antenna farm in Oz.

"Supposedly".

[offline]

It's completely not sensitive since it's obsolete.

Obsolete or not you should have been asked to hand it in - taken 95' '96 was it? Nice photo. Can't see the Org Code.

Maybe that was over the top

Maybe

You just didn't like wearing the black suit and sunnies right?

Try T-shirts with "red winged association" .. more like it!

[Capmaster]

I was offered a job by them as an intelligence analyst specializing in weapons analysis. I turned it down because I didn't want to live in Maryland, and their retirement plan blows. Plus, all that spook stuff generates too much stomach acid.

You just didn't like wearing the black suit and sunnies right?

Damn we maybe could have worked together in a few years time.

True. The NSA has a huge antenna farm in Oz.

"Supposedly".

Just look at their name: No Such Agency
They had postings in Oz, but what they needed me for I would have had to stay at their HQ all the time.

Obsolete or not you should have been asked to hand it in - taken 95' '96 was it?

True. The back has a mag stripe and I'm sure it's long been inactivated. Still ...they probably slipped up.

I wonder if I could wear a Red Wing t-shirt? Probably too politically incorrect

EDIT: Got a meeting with my boss in 5 minutes. He sent an e-mail asking me to explain "Red Wing" Maybe we'll have a new recruit for the Red Wing Association. Either that or I'll have a whole lot more free time for VIDEOHELP.COM

[Guest]

I was offered a job by them as an intelligence analyst specializing in weapons analysis. I turned it down because I didn't want to live in Maryland, and their retirement plan blows. Plus, all that spook stuff generates too much stomach acid.

You just didn't like wearing the black suit and sunnies right?

Damn we maybe could have worked together in a few years time.

True. The NSA has a huge antenna farm in Oz.

"Supposedly".

Just look at their name: No Such Agency
They had postings in Oz, but what they needed me for I would have had to stay at their HQ all the time.

Obsolete or not you should have been asked to hand it in - taken 95' '96 was it?

True. The back has a mag stripe and I'm sure it's long been inactivated. Still ...they probably slipped up.

I wonder if I could wear a Red Wing t-shirt? Probably too politically incorrect

EDIT: Got a meeting with my boss in 5 minutes. He sent an e-mail asking me to explain "Red Wing" Maybe we'll have a new recruit for the Red Wing Association. Either that or I'll have a whole lot more free time for VIDEOHELP.COM

Is he monitoring your dvdr-help activity?

[offline]

Now I know why you call yourself Capmaster

Slick nick

- edit -

EDIT: Got a meeting with my boss in 5 minutes. He sent an e-mail asking me to explain "Red Wing"

You should have known ..tsk tsk. wing + red =

Is he monitoring your dvdr-help activity?

keystrokes would be monitored. Graphics I dunno. Beat
the spies by sending messages in encrypted graphics