Auto Bitsetting or Regular?

[Bongo2]

wich one you reccomend? tha auto one? cuz isnt it better if all dvd+r are burned in DVD-Rom???

and another question is... what firmware for the liteon 851s you reccomend too?

thx

Someone that has a liteon 851s with experience please add me to Messenger: josealejandro_54@hotmail.com
mine arrives thursday and have some question and could use advice
i also got a 50 pack spindle of memorex 4x DVD+R
hope they work

[code65536]

Auto-bitsetting is nice!!! (gee, I wonder why I would be advocating it? hehe)

Auto-bitsetting basically makes the burner bitset +R and +RW to -ROM by default. Of course, if you want, you have the option of running the LiteOn booktype tool to change it back to "Normal" if you don't want the -ROM. So it's not anything permanent. If you feel that you'll be booktyping the majority of your +R discs to -ROM, then get auto-bitsetting. Personally, I have all my +R burns set to -ROM. It doesn't have any undesirable side-effects, and it increases the disc's compatibility.

BTW, find out what media type your Memorex discs are. If they are RICOHJPNR01, then you're in luck, as there's a 851S firmware specially optimized for that disc type available...

[-jsl-]

For DVD+R there are no drawbacks of using DVD-ROM setting AFAIK but personally I would not recommend to use DVD-ROM setting on DVD+RW if you don't have to as some DVD players seem to get confused of finding a SL DVD-ROM with the low reflectivity of a DVD+RW.

[Bongo2]

well they are CMC MAG F01
oh well at least i have heard that liteon 851s burns them well.

btw wich firmware should i download , the one that the official liteon website? or the on at http://codeguys.rpc1.org?

wich one has auto bitsetting?
the one at liteon official site voids warranty?

just got my liteon burner today btw with my media, i cant return them anyway since they were a gift bought at bestbuy, now iam not at NY anymore so dont bother at telling me to exchange them
lol

thx in advance...
waiting for anser

[code65536]

Autobitsetting is not the same as using the official bitsetting tool... see this post...

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=579015

[Bongo2]

i want the latest firmware and i want to have auto bitsetting?
what should i download. i just got my liteon 851s out of the box is fresh, havent installed anything

thx

[budz]

i want the latest firmware and i want to have auto bitsetting?
what should i download. i just got my liteon 851s out of the box is fresh, havent installed anything

check out code65536's site & the Liteon Forum at cdfreaks.com for information. At the moment cdfreaks.com site is down. try it later and read the info on Liteon drives.

http://codeguys.rpc1.org/

[Bongo2]

if i install a firmware of Code Site will it void my warranty?

[Bongo2]

if i install auto bitsetting will it void my warranty?

[code65536]

Read the disclaimer/warning on the front page of our site.

[budz]

if i install auto bitsetting will it void my warranty?

I would assume it would void the warranty because from what I've read at the LITEON forum site using any tools is at your own expense. If you feel uncomfortable in using the AUTO BITSETTING PATCH, just use the OFFICIAL one from the LITEON site. Auto bitsetting is just a easier because you don't have to open up the bitsetting program each time you wanna burn a +media disc. Auto bitsetting just sets it to burn as DVD-ROM automatically.

[code65536]

Since CDF is down, here's a quick explanation of auto bitsetting...

First, you have to know what bitsetting is. I'm not going to explain it, as there are already a lot of resources here and elsewhere explaining it.

What happens in LiteOn drives is that *by default*, bitsetting to -ROM is *not* used. If you want to bitset a +R disc to -ROM, you will need to use the official LiteOn utility (won't void warranty) to tell the burner that you want to bitset your burns. Problem with this approach is that every time you reboot, your burner "forgets" that you want it to bitset your burns, and so every time you reboot, you have to remember to tell your burner to bitset your burns (well, assuming that you want to use bitsetting at all). I, for one, want every one of my burns bitset, and I've forgotten a number of times, so I patched my firmware (this technically will void your warranty; although LiteOn won't know that you've done this if you revert back to an unpatched firmware, as a matter of principle, I ask peope to be fair and not call in the warranty if they modify their drives in an unofficial way), which means that you are modifying your drive. Autobitsetting is a very simple change that instead of "do not bitset" being the default state that the burner starts in each time its powered up, the default state is "do bitset to -ROM." You can still use the official LiteOn utility to tell the burner to "do not bitset."

Soooo... long story short:
* without autobs, burner will not bitset unless you tell it to
* with autobs, burner will bitset unless you tell it not to

[jeex]

For DVD+R there are no drawbacks of using DVD-ROM setting AFAIK but personally I would not recommend to use DVD-ROM setting on DVD+RW if you don't have to as some DVD players seem to get confused of finding a SL DVD-ROM with the low reflectivity of a DVD+RW.

stupid noob.

https://www.videohelp.com/glossary?B

(since DVD+RW reflectivity is identical to that of a dual layered DVD-Video disc, which all players must be capable of reading)"

[-jsl-]

Yeah right I'm a stupid noob...
While bitsetting DVD+RW to DVD-ROM helps on some players it creates compatibility problems on others. This is also the reason why for example HP sets +R to -ROM by default but for +RW the +RW book type is default with the option of being able to change it to -ROM.
The reflectivity of a +RW is about the same as from one layer in pressed DL disc but a +RW has obviously only one layer, not two. I think this is the reason for compatibility problems on some DVD players.

[budz]

Yeah right I'm a stupid noob...
While bitsetting DVD+RW to DVD-ROM helps on some players it creates compatibility problems on others. This is also the reason why for example HP sets +R to -ROM by default but for +RW the +RW book type is default with the option of being able to change it to -ROM.
The reflectivity of a +RW is about the same as from one layer in pressed DL disc but a +RW has obviously only one layer, not two. I think this is the reason for compatibility problems on some DVD players

hmmms......I don't have compatibility problems using the autobitsetting in my LITEON 411S@811S burner....the DVD+RW plays great on my standalone players that are manufactured to only playback DVD-R. It's not just the bitsetting but how the disc is being burned which would include the software that is being used. As for HP I'm not a big fan of their optical drives.

[tompika]

Three things

1. The great thing in DVD+RW (rewritable) is that you can change its booktype to DVD-ROM or DVD-R or DVD-RW ANY TIME you want.

2. I don't think -jsl- is a stupid noob

3. HP DVD writers have always been rebadged drives (Ricoh, NEC, Philips)
They just modified their firmwares in order to bitset