Taking a chance on Prodisc

[FulciLives]

Yes that picture is the same thing I am seeing too.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[FulciLives]

Is anyone with a NEC ND-1300A getting good quality burns from ProdiscS03 and if so what firmware are you using and which ProdiscS03 do you have.

For instance I have been using the official 1.0B firmware with the Matte Top ProdiscS03 4x DVD-R discs which I bought from supermediastore.com

So far my results have not been good.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[DVDeeZ]

the ring that stiltman uploaded is fine, that's normal on many disks. Fulci, yes, it seems that our issues are slightly different. Interestinlgy, I have had the same issue with a few riteks that you are having with Prodiscs. My problem is definitely different, and definitely is causing the issues. I'll upload a picture when I hookup my scanner later.

[axolotls]

Is anyone with a NEC ND-1300A getting good quality burns from ProdiscS03 and if so what firmware are you using and which ProdiscS03 do you have.

For instance I have been using the official 1.0B firmware with the Matte Top ProdiscS03 4x DVD-R discs which I bought from supermediastore.com

So far my results have not been good.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

The latest official one is 1.0B
The latest region free one with speed limits removed is 1.0B RPC2
The latest hacked one is 1.08

I burned a dozen ProDiscsS03 last night on the NEC1300A. Perfect

I am running 1.08.

[stiltman]

What "ring" are you guys talking about? You mean the one on the lead-in track? That's fine. Most blanks have that. My TYG01 are like that.

Can you show me a picture of this "ring" ?

This is normal. This is fine.

I'm not bitchin. These discs work great for me on my 106

You just wanted a pict

[noki]

Is anyone with a NEC ND-1300A getting good quality burns from ProdiscS03 and if so what firmware are you using and which ProdiscS03 do you have.

as stated in my post 1.06. This is the one that came with my 1300a. I have not flashed it.
And yes that is the ring that I see on all my BLANK UNBURNED discs. after the burn I cannot even see it. I will take a closer look this evening.
I have not seen these rings on any Ricoh, CMC or MCC blanks. As mentioned just those orange silk-screened 4x DVD-R Riteks.

[dqtus]

Ok so I just finished my 1st cake box of 50 4x Prodisc DVDs and I'm really impressed. I only came out with 3 bad burns 2 of which was because I tried burning with tmpgenc dvd author and 1 from a nero 6.3 crash but I now use nero 5.5 so technically nothing messed up in the DVDs only my programs. The quality seems very good and I'm pleased with these disc. It would be cool if Prodisc put a logo on their CDs instead of a plain silver matte finish but so far I'm very happy with prodisc and I have 150 more prodisc DVDs to work with.

[accountwiz]

Well, I'm a committed Ritek fan, but the sale from Supermediastore proved too much to resist. I bought 100 and the first 6 or 7 have all burned without any DVDInfoPro errors in my NEC-2500A. So far, so good.

[LiL_D]

Mine wont be here until the 9th

Edit, any one have any problems with these with a Sony DRU-510a writer?

[Captain315]

Well, I guess I've went and done it again. I've read a considerable number of posts lately that raved about the Prodisc. Now that I have ordered 100 printable +R, 4X from Rima, all I read are posts that say to stay away from Prodisc. Sometimes I think I'm doomed to failure. Anyway..... I'm going to try a few on a Plextor 708A and see what happens. Will post my findings a little later.

[FulciLives]

Well, I guess I've went and done it again. I've read a considerable number of posts lately that raved about the Prodisc. Now that I have ordered 100 printable +R, 4X from Rima, all I read are posts that say to stay away from Prodisc. Sometimes I think I'm doomed to failure. Anyway..... I'm going to try a few on a Plextor 708A and see what happens. Will post my findings a little later.

Well it seems people are getting "mixed" results even with the same model/make of burner.

So I don't know what to think.

Bad batches perhaps?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[stiltman]

Well, I guess I've went and done it again. I've read a considerable number of posts lately that raved about the Prodisc. Now that I have ordered 100 printable +R, 4X from Rima, all I read are posts that say to stay away from Prodisc. Sometimes I think I'm doomed to failure. Anyway..... I'm going to try a few on a Plextor 708A and see what happens. Will post my findings a little later.

Well it seems people are getting "mixed" results even with the same model/make of burner.

So I don't know what to think.

Bad batches perhaps?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Plus I don't see many people here talking about (+) Prodiscs. Most seem to be about (-) media

[thor300]

I think FulciLives is right, its bad batches, but doesnt have to be the disks, bad batches of NEC burners is more likely. I have 1300A with 1.0B, no firmware or -R disks have given me reliable burns, i never even managed to burn an errorfree Ritek G04 at 4x. Bad burner or bad media?

[dqtus]

Well, I guess I've went and done it again. I've read a considerable number of posts lately that raved about the Prodisc. Now that I have ordered 100 printable +R, 4X from Rima, all I read are posts that say to stay away from Prodisc. Sometimes I think I'm doomed to failure. Anyway..... I'm going to try a few on a Plextor 708A and see what happens. Will post my findings a little later.

Well it seems people are getting "mixed" results even with the same model/make of burner.

So I don't know what to think.

Bad batches perhaps?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Plus I don't see many people here talking about (+) Prodiscs. Most seem to be about (-) media

yup mine are dvd-r

[FulciLives]

I think FulciLives is right, its bad batches, but doesnt have to be the disks, bad batches of NEC burners is more likely. I have 1300A with 1.0B, no firmware or -R disks have given me reliable burns, i never even managed to burn an errorfree Ritek G04 at 4x. Bad burner or bad media?

If I have a "bad" NEC ND-1300A then why do Maxell 4x DVD-R discs and Taiyo Yuden 4x DVD-R discs burn perfect?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[thor300]

I havent had a chance to try Maxell/TY -R in mine yet, but TY +R works perfect every time. TY in comparision to G04 and Prodisk isnt fair, TY is the top of the line at a higher price. From what i read here Prodisk works better in some peoples 1300As than G04 in mine. I still cant get hold of any Prodisk here, the local shops sell lots of low price brands but "refuse" to put the mediacode.

[DVDeeZ]

these prodiscs are worth pissin on and that's about it. I've burned a ton of disks and never had any problems like i've had with these. Here's that pic of the burn rubberband type circle on just about every single one of the prodiscs I've burned. Not a scanner expert but if you zoom in you can clearly see the burn ring and it is much deeper looking at it in person. The speed drops enormously between 8-10% at that area which is exactly where the burn ring is and in most cases it errors out so the disks are nothing more then crap. Figures it would happen to me. I should of gone with supermediastores prodiscs as i'm pretty confident rima is aware of what they sent. One set of serial numbers burns much better and a much lighter ring then the other set of serial numbers as I posted before. I haven't called rima yet, didn't get a chance, but they'll never get another penny of my money regardless of how they remedy it.

Up to this point these are the cheapest disks i've bought at .60 each. Should of just stuck with the Matrix disks for movies. Live and learn that's all. I'd be real weary of these disks even if they burn well. Unless someone knows for sure what type of dye prodisc uses is great and long lasting, i'd check these periodically and make sure they are still readable. What a waste of time with these.

[dqtus]

wow I didn't know there was a difference between the supermedia store prodisc and rima ones. I do know that when I checked the media code on my prodisc it said prodiscs03 or something as the manufacturer code and according to digitalfaq it was good. I then went to check the whole code and compared it to the one that was on the search here and it was a bit different. They still burn ok and everything for me though but I'm not sure if mine are good/bad ones. I bought mine from supermedia store

[axolotls]

I buy my ProdiscS03s from either SupermediaStore or Rima. I have found no difference.

[disturbed1]

I buy my ProdiscS03s from either SupermediaStore or Rima. I have found no difference.

There is a big difference. The Rima Prodiscs are a shiny silver top, Supermediastore's and Meritline's are a "matted" top. The printables also are different from Rima. I've gotten 2 different batches of printable from them, 1 with a 23mm center, and some with a 38mm center.

[dqtus]

so does prodisc have 2 diff makers then or something?

[disturbed1]

They both produced the exact same results for me. I think it was just a change in the production line, as this can happen from time to time.

I haven't ordered from Rima in a while, so they could have gotten the "newer" Prodisc in by now.

[axolotls]

I buy my ProdiscS03s from either SupermediaStore or Rima. I have found no difference.

There is a big difference. The Rima Prodiscs are a shiny silver top, Supermediastore's and Meritline's are a "matted" top. The printables also are different from Rima. I've gotten 2 different batches of printable from them, 1 with a 23mm center, and some with a 38mm center.

The silver (and white) printables from SMS and RIMA have been the same cosmetically (looks the same, feels the same, burns the same). Actually all the silvers i gotten were matte. I have another pack coming in a few days, so I'll see if it's shiny. I've never had a ProDisc that wasn't 22-24mm center.

You stated there was a big difference. Then in your follow up you said they produced the same results. So what's the big difference? Cosmetically?

[disturbed1]

Well, it's more of a physical difference. As the printables had a different surface, not just inner measure.

The shiny silvers where flimsy with sharp edges, the matte ones were not.

[SoCalMK]

I once was a fanatical Ritek G04 user, but got a lot of coasters so I switched to Prodiscs based on a lot of suggestions from this forum. 2 coasters in 200 burns so far.

[dqtus]

just bought another 200 pack from supermediastore, $82!

I wanted to try out some ritekg04 but they were a bit pricy, like 68 cents a DVD. ANy other place cheaper for ritekg04?

[lordsmurf]

DVDeeZ, that's just plain odd. That's not a lead-in ring. Something odd is happening on that batch or your burner.

[axolotls]

Well, it's more of a physical difference. As the printables had a different surface, not just inner measure.

The shiny silvers where flimsy with sharp edges, the matte ones were not.

I must have missed that run. Never had any differences, but remember I've only been buying Prodiscs for the past two or three months only.

[stiltman]

The shiny silvers where flimsy with sharp edges

Huh? I thought all DVD were made with 2 pieces of plastic glued together.

How much of a difference could the plastic thinkness be to make it "flimsy"? Especially if they are Pioneer certified.

[disturbed1]

If you grab a branded disc (TDK, Sony, Fuji....) they are sturdy, and not too easy to bend. Same with Maxell, Ritek, Taiyo Yuden... But these Prodisc were easy to bend, and had rough edges.