The McDonalds Half-Staffed Half-Wit

[indolikaa]

It makes you wonder. He turned that company around in less than 2 years. And from what I heard he was very popular with Staff...

[flaninacupboard]

maybe the IRA weren't too happy about the recent lack in funding.......

*not politics. just a joke.*

Either that or the colnel is smiling a bit more than usual!

[hech54]

I personally would have gone for closing all of the stores. But could you imagine the amount of money "not made" that day just by closing McD's in the U.S.?
That poor guy's chair wasn't even cold before his successor nixed that idea real quick....having only his Golden Parachute or Pension in mind.
Putting the flag back up was the politically correct thing to do....and most likely nipped alot of potential bad press in the bud but corporations need to start showing some balls and stop being afraid of lawsuits.

[flaninacupboard]

how can anyone NOT be afraid of lawsuits in your contry!?! i'd be scared to say "hello" to someone over there in case it caused emotional trauma or something!

[indolikaa]

but corporations need to start showing some balls and stop being afraid of lawsuits.

A-*******-men! Even if I disagree on the subject matter at hand, I am tired of being told 'the truth' because it could result in a lawsuit.

1) McDonald's should've closed in honor of the man. Tell everybody through mass advertising that they will be closed for one day, and the next day it's 50% Big Macs or something.

2) McDonald's is a huge corporation that is an integral part of the National GDP. Do you know how many jobs they create each year? Their impact on this country is nothing to scoff at, and because of them an entire sector of our economy was born and flourishes.

[gmatov]

McD's should not have lowered the flag. It is a national symbol. I am sure that they have their own. That, they could have and should have lowered.

The flag is simply a Standard, though we revere it as though it were rhe nation itself. Since mankind crept out of the caves and got more than 2 at a time to go to war, each side has had its Standard, be it a turtle shell on a stick, or a bunch of daisies.

The Standard meant "Form on me", rally around the king, and we had to know where the king was if we were going to fight to protect him. That was in the days when the king went into combat at the head of his forces, not, as with Napolean, directing the wars by runner from the rear of the action, nor, certainly the wars of today where Blair sits in Whitehall (or wherever) and telephones the generals down street, who telephone some other generals, who eventually get through to some private who gives them the skinny

Ditto for the Chicken Hawks in DC, who sent 200,000 to Iraq and Afghanistan while they go to Burning Bush for a game of golf. And fuckin' halliburton charges the GIs for a roll of shit paper.

Hell, the Iraqis have just designed their new flag, and over there they're ready to go to war among themselves, as they've been doing since WWI when the state of Iraq was created by the Democratic powers, because they can't agree on the colors, or which color should be on top.

Think I'll drop out of this one, now. Blood's starting to boil, and that can't be too good, at my age.

Cheers,

George

Indy,

McDs is even more important than you intimate. Do you know how many math and sociology grads would be without a job if it weren't for McDs?

And, maybe Bush had it right, they take a patty, a roll, a slice of tomato, catsup and mustard and make a sandwich. Maybe it should be reclassified as "manufacturing".

Do wonders for the stock market and reelection, 800,000 new manufacturing jobs created. Good bye, service economy, hello world class manufacturing economy. I mean, BK, KFC, Chi-Chi's, Red Lobster, etc, not to mention the mom'n'pops

[hech54]

how can anyone NOT be afraid of lawsuits in your contry!?! i'd be scared to say "hello" to someone over there in case it caused emotional trauma or something!

I'm not. ****-em...."you can't get blood from a stone"
(translation) - I aint gots no money honey.

[zzyzzx]

[Guest]

Nice work

[devinemi83]

If someone close to me died and I wanted to fly a flag at half mast I would go right ahead and wouldn't give a shit what any other person said. McDonalds on the other hand is a business so it unfortunately has to deal with people like this.

That's a good point. I think it's silly that the woman complained too. It's not like she was standing defiantly in the face of tyrany here. It's ******* Mc Donald's.

LOL

[gmatov]

That was the problem, here.

It's fuckin' McDonald's. Much as you might love the old clogged artery fart, he still was just the CEO of a company.

If McD's has a corporate flag (probably do ), they are welcome to fly it at halfmast. They are not being correct, as to protocol, to dip the national Flag for a burger pusher.

If the Governor of the state of HQ had requested that the nation go into mourning for a burger pusher, most likely, particularly with the present regime, and a decent campaign contribution, the day would have been designated as a day of mourning.

Frankly, I'm a little pissed with you guys, Pacman included, as an Aussie, to say, ****'em, I'll do what I want with the flag.

I recently had a young daughter pass away, recently in the Air Force, buried with full military honors, rifle salute, flag folded and presented to the husband. And for you to equate a corporate bigwig, is so fuckin' stupid, I don't know what in the hell they teach you in school. Not much, apparently, or else it didn't take, what with your idols wearing representations on the ass of their pants.

Woe is us, with you guys to be the future leaders of the country. Blind leading the blind, deaf and dumb. Particularly dumb.

George

[pacmania_2001]

George, sorry for your loss and I apologise if I offended you.

However, I still stand by my original statement that it is the ideals behind the flag that are crucial that we respect them, not the piece of cloth. I respect the flag as much as the next person.

To bring another analogy of my life into this situation (and hopefully not start a religious debate), I believe in God but I don't believe in organised religion and the procedures that come with it.

[teegee420]

I applogize as well, George. It wasn't my intention to offend anyone with my comments and I am deeply sorry for your loss.

Woe is us, with you guys to be the future leaders of the country. Blind leading the blind, deaf and dumb. Particularly dumb.

I respect your point of view but I guess it's asking too much of you to do the same. I don't appreciate the insults.

[indolikaa]

Hmmm...


Pacmania and I will have to agree to disagree on this one. Respecting the cloth is just as important as respecting the ideals it conveys.

No argument with your stance on religion, though.

[Capmaster]

I think of the flag like I would a cherished souvenir. Sure it's made out of cloth, but the meaning behind it makes it something special, and just treating it like cloth doesn't honor what went into the flag's history. After all, we humans are made of only water, carbon, minerals, etc ....about $2 worth of materials. But it's not just the ingredients that make us special, or the flag.

My dad was a WWII vet, served 1940 - 1946, was a participant of the Normandy Beach Invasion in 1944, has a purple heart, etc. One of his most cherished possessions is a flag that flew over the Capitol in DC. I inherited it. When he was alive he was active in organizations that try to stop flag desecration. It was a very important cause for him.

Also, I have the flag that draped his casket at his funeral, and was presented to me by the honor guard. It not only represents my country, but now it represents my dad's service in the Army.

When I see pictures of arab terrorists burning our flag I see red. When I see pictures of Americans burning our flag I get sick to my stomach. It obviously is more than just cloth otherwise the persons burning it would have just burned blank cloth, right? They are burning what it represents, not just cloth, and it's naive to think otherwise.

[Guest]

5% of America's workforce gets their first job @ MCds.Kind of a large # if you think about it.

[indolikaa]

When I see pictures of arab terrorists burning our flag I see red. When I see pictures of Americans burning our flag I get sick to my stomach. It obviously is more than just cloth otherwise the persons burning it would have just burned blank cloth, right? They are burning what it represents, not just cloth, and it's naive to think otherwise.

Ditto.

[gmatov]

It is just a piece of cloth!!!

It is what it represents that makes it more.

But for our gov to make a change to the Constitution, prohibiting desecration, makes the Constitution a worthless scrap of paper. We have a Gov, today, who want to make any crime, in their eyes, a cause for a change to the Constitution, as the British seem to have done with their Magna Carta. Does this translate to "We are so MAGNAnimous, that we will give you the CARTA, or your demands, which, I might add were demands of the Nobles, not the peasentry?

Well, it WAS a long time ago, ands they never in their wildest dreams could have imagined THIS, so we gotta change the most cherished Document in human history.

Wel, screw you, you wanta **** with the Constitution, I will fight you at the polls. Some goddamn smarter people than a GW with a "gentleman's "C" wrote it, debated for some 5 years, and today, ******** still can't read, nor comprehend the 2nd Amendment that says "An armed militia being the only defense against a tyrannical government, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

I know, I know, lockdown time.

You guys are going to have tot to stand up for your rights. Else you will have them stripped from you as the English and Austrlians have already. But, on the other hand, both of them will cheerfully tell you they are safer today than they were last year. The Canadians, maybe, too.

Ah, well, rest in peace,

George

[hech54]

Again the typical Pittsburgh Mentality rears is ugly head.
1) All foreign cars are junk.
2) All American cars are made in America by Americans and contain
100% American made parts.
3) Every penny of the money paid for that American car goes
back into the American economy.
3) NONE of the steel that comes into America from other countries
is bought and used by American companies...it just sits there on the
docks stealing American jobs.
4) American auto workers who make Toyotas here in America are paid only in Yen and are only allowed to spend those Yen on more Japanese products.
5) Volkswagen of America in New Stanton didn't leave the Pittsburgh area because of the UAW and it's endless lawsuits against the firing of lazy, good for nothing "workers"....it MUST have been some other reason.
6) The Sony Coorporation who moved into the old VW Plant in New Stanton also only pays it's workers in Yen.
7) "An armed militia being the only defense against a tyrannical government, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." was NOT written by the same tyrannical government that laid down all of those rules for the handling of The Flag.
8) Iron City Beer is the BEST beer ever made.

Did I forget any?

[VCDHunter]

We are talking about their own plags here aren't we ? I mean it is their own flag that they've bought themselves with their own money right ? As long as their not burning it in my front room I couldn't care less. Burn away, it's your personal property do what the hell you like with it. Looking around the world we live in, I can't understand how something so meaningless can stir up such retarded emotions.

[flaninacupboard]

I can hear George typing his PM from here.....

i'm sure you can understand really. the flag is a symbol for a country's spirit, a crucifix the same for christians, davids star for jews, scales for justice etc.

if someone burned an effigy of you, i'm sure you'd be offended despite it only being an effigy smouldering on the ground.

[VCDHunter]

if someone burned an effigy of you, i'm sure you'd be offended despite it only being an effigy smouldering on the ground.

I'd be more concerned with why someone had an effigy of me, rather that what they were doing with it but no I wouldn't be offended by it, like I say as long as it's yours burn away, shit you could wrap my effigy in a big welsh flag and burn it and I really wouldn't care.

[hech54]

i'm sure you can understand really. the flag is a symbol for a country's spirit, a crucifix the same for christians, davids star for jews, scales for justice etc.

Not for long....

Microsoft is facing some questions about political correctness and fonts this week following the release of a critical Windows update that also happens to include a font removal tool.

At issue is Microsoft's decision to remove two swastikas and the Star of David from its Bookshelf Symbol 7 font. Microsoft officials characterized the presence of the swastikas as "an unintentional oversight." The company has confirmed that some users became upset at the presence of the swastikas.

PC Magazine staffers ran a standard "diff" check on the Bookshelf Symbol 7 font pack, using Microsoft Word, before and after installing the update from Microsoft and found that in addition to the removal of the swastikas from the font set, the Star of David had also been removed.

There's already hubbub on the Web about the original inclusion of the swastikas, and Microsoft's policy of removing them. At book author John Walkenbach's J-Walk Web log, participants sought to point out the different uses of the swastikas in different cultures. One posted a partial screen shot of a Tokyo map showing reversed swastikas that are used to denote the location of Buddhist temples. The poster also explained, "Swastika means Buddhist Temples and Buddha's teaching at Asia, Japan," and adds that "Nazis abused "Reversed Spin" Swastika's meaning." Prior to the rise of Nazism in Germany, the swastika actually had benign religious significance in Japan. PC Magazine staffers who did the lookup with Microsoft Word also tracked down references to a form of swastika which means God of Knowledge in Hinduism.

[Capmaster]

At issue is Microsoft's decision to remove two swastikas and the Star of David from its Bookshelf Symbol 7 font.

Oh give me a break. Next they'll be removing the small "t" because it looks too much like the Christian cross.

Where's Dennis Miller's e-mail address ........

This is a rumor, right??? Say it's a rumor, please

[VCDHunter]

At issue is Microsoft's decision to remove two swastikas and the Star of David from its Bookshelf Symbol 7 font.

Oh give me a break. Next they'll be removing the small "t" because it looks too much like the Christian cross.

Oh and it doesn't stop there cap - ain't you heard ? after careful monitoring of this site microsoft will also be removing o, a and g

[hech54]

How about from wired.com? It's not a joke.

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,61587,00.html

And from Microsoft itself:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;833404

Only later did they find it removed BOTH the Star of David and the Swastika. At first it was optional then Microsoft put it on the list of critical updates meaning millions of people have removed them without knowing about it....thinking it was a CRITICAL or security update.

Nice huh?

[Capmaster]

At issue is Microsoft's decision to remove two swastikas and the Star of David from its Bookshelf Symbol 7 font.

Oh give me a break. Next they'll be removing the small "t" because it looks too much like the Christian cross.

Oh and it doesn't stop there cap - ain't you heard ? after careful monitoring of this site microsoft will also be removing o, a and g

No doubt. What worries me is that I knew right away what those letters represent

[zzyzzx]

At issue is Microsoft's decision to remove two swastikas and the Star of David from its Bookshelf Symbol 7 font. Microsoft officials characterized the presence of the swastikas as "an unintentional oversight." The company has confirmed that some users became upset at the presence of the swastikas.

Where can I find this original Microsoft Bookshelf Symbol 7 font?

[indolikaa]

At issue is Microsoft's decision to remove two swastikas and the Star of David from its Bookshelf Symbol 7 font. Microsoft officials characterized the presence of the swastikas as "an unintentional oversight." The company has confirmed that some users became upset at the presence of the swastikas.

Where can I find this original Microsoft Bookshelf Symbol 7 font?

I wonder if my Microsoft Works with Bookshelf CD-ROM is old enough to have it? It's Version 4.0...

[gmatov]

Hech,

If that list is aimed at me, may I make my rebuttal?

Most important, first, if Iron City or any other sewer water that came out of their fermentation vat ( note the singular, I think they only make one beer, a bad one, and lable the cans/bottles differently ) was/were the only beer/s in the world, I'd quit drinking beer.

American steel mills imported Japanese made pipe to the West coast and ground off the "Made in Japan" and stenciled with their name. Led to the closing of the National Tube Mill in McKeesport, PA, and a couple thousand jobs Same with slabs from Brazil and England (or Scotland, one or the other). Cheaper to ship 3000 miles by water, and 500 + miles by land.

The great Lee Iacocca, his own self, on Saturday Night Live, a skit, actually, tried to make the point of 100 % Made in the USA, and finally got to the US content, Rubbermaid floormats. Believable, as the Colt was a rebadged Mitsubishi, and he got highly pissed when Mitsu said they would sell it under their own name, "They have a 1500 buck advantage over us!!!".
John Deere tractors, one of the earliest, most famous names in tractors and other farm implements, are made in England.

Ford cars are made in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, for sale in the US, and Dearborn, Michigan for the Canadian market. Import-export credits, rape the US citizen AND the Canadians.

Volkswagen left New Stanton for 2 basic reasons.

1 is that our very wise Governor Milton Schapp gave them a 10 year tax forgiveness to build and run the plant. 10 years, goombye.

2 is that the US is the only country in the world, so I have been told, and this led to the closing of the Westinghouse, where I worked for 23 years, that will close a US plant before any other when bisiness falls. We had plants world wide, and the governments of those countries where there was a plant forbade it to close, and the foreign companies have laws that work in the other direction, you may not reduce the home workforce till you have closed all of the foreign plants.

Actually, you seem to have gotten another one wrong. Sony does not pay in Yen, they pay in the same devalued dollar that most everyone else in this country uses as trade medium.

Another thing is that no Japanese company came here to push its merchandise, corps here went over there to get stuff to sell, whether cars, toys or nails. (Nails, because when I was building my house, nails shipped 7000 miles from then Jugoslavia cost 1/3 less than nails made within 100 miles of here. Go figure.) Malcom Bricklin went to get the Honda Civic to sell here. I don't think there was a Japanese car here before then.

No, the money from that US made car does not go back into the US economy, the part paid to suppliers and workforce does, but the 7000 dollar profit built into higher end cars/trucks, goes to buying foreign plants to put more US workers on the breadline. Or, into the CEO's and other top execs pay package. The CEO of my company just exercised a 30 million buck options package, and the guys at my level, well reported in the media, get 280 bucks each. That's fair, don't you think?

By the way, I, personally, think the best car on the road is the Audi. I've had 5 so far, and, should I ever hit the lottery, the first purchase will be a new one, a Quattro automatic, turbo.

Flan, Who would I PM about what? This is open discussion. I do get pissed at the suggestion that it is just a rag, even though when the Revolutionary War was fought, they needed a rallying point and dear old Betsy Ross came up with a design, or so we have been taught, and hand sewed (it predated the sewing machine) a guidon.

Remember, too, that this country was founded on the arguments of the rich of the time, who pledged their "honor, their fortunes and their lives". Just about every signer of the Declaration was a rich landowner. Just as almost every official elected to high office today is a rich man. A rich man cannot, by definition, know what is needed by the populace at large.

You guys have it, probably, even worse, as, aren't your upper house members hereditary. The House of Lords?

What the hell does his lordship know of what the commoners need or want? All they know is the beggars are a bunch of slackers, and if it comes out of MY pocket, then damme, sir, I say nay. Or, horses asses that they are portrayed as on BBC America, I say neigh.

You want another chapter? this one has kept me away from the top 150 threads, and I like to read them all before I hit the sack. Who knows when I'll find something outrageous in the forum? Well, I guess there is something daily, so I guess you all do.

Cheers,

George

Thanks for your comments, BTW. Appreciated.