Anamorphic???

[kareem17]

hey guys, I am kinda new to the whole DVD-R burning. I have been burning backup movies for a bit, and just wondering if there is any way to get around this. I use DVD Decrypter to rip the whole DVD9 to my computer, then I use DVD2ONE to rip just the movie to a max of 4.35 gig. The question I have is, when the movie is done in 16x9 widescreen, and I burn it to DVD5 i still get bars on the top and bottom when watching it on a 16x9 tv. I know there is 2 types of aspect ratios when it comes to widescreen, but I've burned both types and still get bars? is there a program that can make it anamorphic again? if so, what? and how?

[steveryan]

I think you're a bit confused. AFAIK you will always get black bars at the top and bottom, for a ratio like 1.85.1 they will be small and for a ratio like 2.35.1 they will be quite big. Have a look here http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Makeup/4303/dvdratios.html

[kareem17]

I think you're a bit confused. AFAIK you will always get black bars at the top and bottom, for a ratio like 1.85.1 they will be small and for a ratio like 2.35.1 they will be quite big. Have a look here http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Makeup/4303/dvdratios.html

I understand that, but what I am saying is, say for instance The Last Samurai is a anamorphic widescreen movie. So when I take the original dvd and play it on my widescreen tv, I do not get bars. It plays the movie the way the director wants you to view it. But say when I want to make a backup of the movie and I rip it using DVD Decrypter and rip JUST the movie using DVD2ONE, the 16x9 movie now gives me bars on the top and bottom.

[turk690]

" 'The Last Samurai' is an anamorphic widescreen movie" doesn't stop there; you still have to see if it's 1:85 or 2:35, which are the two most common widescreen formats on DVD. On a 16:9 widescreen TV, a properly displayed 1:85 movie will have very little or no black bars, but a 2:35 WILL STILL have substantial black bars (approximately the same in ratio as that of a 1.85 widescreen movie forced onto a conventional 4:3 screen) unless the TV display is zoomed/resized in some way. I've had to tell this to people who just bought 16:9 widescreen TVs: their impression mostly is that now they WILL NOT have to contend with black bars anymore. For viewing 2:35 aspect ratio movies, sadly, the black bars are still there. I don't know about DVD2ONE but DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink (both free but sophisticated at that) DO NOT add or take away black bars.

[kareem17]

i know that a 2:35 ratio movie will still have black bars on a widescreen tv but a 1:85 ratio movie will not on a widescreen tv. Is there a program that will JUST rip the 1:85 ratio movie and keep it anamorphic? I work at a big electronics retail store, so I know about the different ratios out there. But a original full movie you would buy or rent will fill the screen (if it is 1:18 ratio), but if I rip just the movie so it will fit on a DVD-R I get black bars on the widescreen tv. Where the original DVD will not when i watch the movie. Understand?

[FulciLives]

DVD2ONE does not change things like 16x9 anamorphic.

If the original is 16x9 anamorphic then so will the copy.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[dphirschler]

I don't know where you people are getting the idea that 1.85:1 ratio will not have black bars on a 16x9 TV. I thought a 16x9 TV was 1.77:1. Is there something I am missing?


Darryl

[Doramius]

It's not the software itself that's causing the problem. it's the way it is transcribed from one source to another. You are using different software, media, and basically method from the way an original DVD is made. When you bring it down to a burned DVD, some players read the burn slightly different from and original. The DVD Players are not made to play DVDR's unless otherwise specified. You're making a DVDR to play on a player, this is why some medias will work and others do not on specific players. The DVDR IS essentially an exact clone of the original. It's just not being played like the original because it is NOT the original.
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As for the increase in the black bars, You'll find Most Sony Discs, burned on a Sony Burner, played on a Sony Player, are exactly like they were with the original (true only 80% of the time). But if you use a Sanyo Player, the result will be slightly different.
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Again, WHY? "because DVD PLAYERS are NOT made to play DVDR's unless otherwise specified". You do not make DVDs the same way the ones at the store are made.

[FulciLives]

It's not the software itself that's causing the problem. it's the way it is transcribed from one source to another. You are using different software, media, and basically method from the way an original DVD is made. When you bring it down to a burned DVD, some players read the burn slightly different from and original. The DVD Players are not made to play DVDR's unless otherwise specified. You're making a DVDR to play on a player, this is why some medias will work and others do not on specific players. The DVDR IS essentially an exact clone of the original. It's just not being played like the original because it is NOT the original.
--
As for the increase in the black bars, You'll find Most Sony Discs, burned on a Sony Burner, played on a Sony Player, are exactly like they were with the original (true only 80% of the time). But if you use a Sanyo Player, the result will be slightly different.
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Again, WHY? "because DVD PLAYERS are NOT made to play DVDR's unless otherwise specified". You do not make DVDs the same way the ones at the store are made.

Oh geez ... haven't we scared you off yet?

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
You should take FOO's advice on not givig advice.

[dafreak]

i know that a 2:35 ratio movie will still have black bars on a widescreen tv but a 1:85 ratio movie will not on a widescreen tv. Is there a program that will JUST rip the 1:85 ratio movie and keep it anamorphic? I work at a big electronics retail store, so I know about the different ratios out there. But a original full movie you would buy or rent will fill the screen (if it is 1:18 ratio), but if I rip just the movie so it will fit on a DVD-R I get black bars on the widescreen tv. Where the original DVD will not when i watch the movie. Understand?

hmm, well Last Samurai is 2:35 ratio, so according to what you said, it should have black bars on top/bottom correct?

Sounds like it's working properly.

[lordsmurf]

It's not the software itself that's causing the problem. it's the way it is transcribed from one source to another. You are using different software, media, and basically method from the way an original DVD is made. When you bring it down to a burned DVD, some players read the burn slightly different from and original. The DVD Players are not made to play DVDR's unless otherwise specified. You're making a DVDR to play on a player, this is why some medias will work and others do not on specific players. The DVDR IS essentially an exact clone of the original. It's just not being played like the original because it is NOT the original.
--
As for the increase in the black bars, You'll find Most Sony Discs, burned on a Sony Burner, played on a Sony Player, are exactly like they were with the original (true only 80% of the time). But if you use a Sanyo Player, the result will be slightly different.
--
Again, WHY? "because DVD PLAYERS are NOT made to play DVDR's unless otherwise specified". You do not make DVDs the same way the ones at the store are made.

What kind of silly non-sense is this ?

You are right that a press and a burn are not the same, but not for the reasons mentioned here. Not at all.

[BSR]

It's not the software itself that's causing the problem. it's the way it is transcribed from one source to another. You are using different software, media, and basically method from the way an original DVD is made. When you bring it down to a burned DVD, some players read the burn slightly different from and original. The DVD Players are not made to play DVDR's unless otherwise specified. You're making a DVDR to play on a player, this is why some medias will work and others do not on specific players. The DVDR IS essentially an exact clone of the original. It's just not being played like the original because it is NOT the original.
--
As for the increase in the black bars, You'll find Most Sony Discs, burned on a Sony Burner, played on a Sony Player, are exactly like they were with the original (true only 80% of the time). But if you use a Sanyo Player, the result will be slightly different.
--
Again, WHY? "because DVD PLAYERS are NOT made to play DVDR's unless otherwise specified". You do not make DVDs the same way the ones at the store are made.

I don't know where you people are getting the idea that 1.85:1 ratio will not have black bars on a 16x9 TV. I thought a 16x9 TV was 1.77:1. Is there something I am missing?

I agree

[indolikaa]

It's not the software itself that's causing the problem. it's the way it is transcribed from one source to another. You are using different software, media, and basically method from the way an original DVD is made. When you bring it down to a burned DVD, some players read the burn slightly different from and original. The DVD Players are not made to play DVDR's unless otherwise specified. You're making a DVDR to play on a player, this is why some medias will work and others do not on specific players. The DVDR IS essentially an exact clone of the original. It's just not being played like the original because it is NOT the original.
--
As for the increase in the black bars, You'll find Most Sony Discs, burned on a Sony Burner, played on a Sony Player, are exactly like they were with the original (true only 80% of the time). But if you use a Sanyo Player, the result will be slightly different.
--
Again, WHY? "because DVD PLAYERS are NOT made to play DVDR's unless otherwise specified". You do not make DVDs the same way the ones at the store are made.

You have got to be kidding me...


Would you please explain how this is possible?

And please quote chapter and verse from the DVD Forum's DVD Specifications for Recordable Disc, DVD-R for General, Part 1: Physical Specifications Version 2.01 and DVD Specification for Recordable Disc, DVD-R for General: Part 2: File System Specifications Version 2.1, so that I can better understand what the hell you're talking about!

This is one of the worst pieces of disinformation I have ever seen posted on this website. Even Naked Geek had a general idea of what he was talking about.