Anyone hear of something called 'Fingerprint Technology'?

[Matteo693]

Let me put it another way...

You would rather watch a film where every "shit" and "****" is BLEEPED or SILENCED??? In other words, you're watching a film where they're OBVIOUSLY swearing, only YOU aren't hearing the actual "sounds" of those words??

You're crazy. Go to a shrink, mate.

[northcat_8]

1) i don't care to hear vulgarity or see sexually or violently explicit material

2) i have a son, so it's nice to know that i don't have to worry about him seeing something he shouldn't either.

it's a nice alternative.

I certainly hope you are planning on home schooling him. You can protect him as long as you can, but eventually he is going to find reality and how the world really is...I just hope he can handle the shock of all the new words he's going to learn in 1st grade.

[triphop]

This is a troubling concept and since I have two young ( 6 & 8 ) children, it does affect me.

I would certainly not expose my children to a movie that has been censored because there are plenty of great movies that do not require this. Personally I dont really like gratuous violence or strong language but I exercise that choice by not viewing films of that nature. I do not have any right to stop others watching such films, material.

The USA is basically a theocracy where the christian elites try and tell us what to watch and how to live our lives. Who the hell told them I can't buy beer on a sunday or that I need to hear their bullshit prayers. They would be offended if they were forced to slaughter chickens to some idol, but they dont see the irony of their position.

These same f*ckers would nail up Jesus again in a heartbeat. Or maybe they'd just put a hood on him first and then electrocute him.

[flaninacupboard]

And meanwhile, they have plans to offer a new service under a different name... CleanBooks.

I really hope you're ******* kidding. that's just wrong. i really REALLY hope that they don't do that, or if they do they at least involve the authors (i'm thinking 99% will say no) because that's..... it's selective bookburning!

You don't see folks go "oh, that Dali painting is good, but more people would like it if it was less...... weird." or "ooh, that new System of a Down song is catchy, but will be more popular if we alter the lyrics from socio-political commentary to, uh, shopping and football games"

If you don't want to see a film with nudity or swearing or violence, don't watch them. if you do i want you to remember that the director WANTED YOU to see nudity, sex, death, gore and criminal actvity. just think, while you're watching your carefully controlled film you could be watching the most sick and twisted piece of shit created, you'll tell all your friends how good it was and you'll be an instant outcast.

but hey, as long as the hero doesn't say "heck" before he anally rapes his sister, dead mother and a five year old while hacking off his own leg, simultaneosuly injecting himself with every drug available to man and singing "shut your ******* face, uncle ******!" then it'll be ok.

[gitreel]

These same f*ckers would nail up Jesus again in a heartbeat. Or maybe they'd just put a hood on him first and then electrocute him.

uh, no. I am a christian. I am far from perfect, but that is not right. I support whatever you want to do, whatever you want to watch, when you want to do it. Let's not make this the end of the world...ok. He was only nailed to the cross once. He was just asking a question about his preferences. But when you make a statement like that, I am offended.

[northcat_8]

Personally I dont really like gratuous violence or strong language but I exercise that choice by not viewing films of that nature.

See how difficult is that concept? I don't want to see a movie with 90 people crying and some woman trying to put her life back together after her husband left her for his secretary. So guess what, I don't watch them. I don't watch lifetime or Oxygen or Sweet Home Alabama.....my wife and daughter love those movies...but that doesn't mean I HAVE to watch.

[haloblack]

Protect your children in YOUR home, but don't go & try controlling what I watch in MY home.

Unfortunately, your sort of "morality" affects what I can watch on my TV set. That PISSES me off.

Excuse me? At exactly what point in this discussion did byoung210 say that he wanted to control what you watch? I have a lot of gripes with the Ashcrofts and Powells in this country, but byoung hasn't set off my Falwell-O-Meter yet, and mine goes off reeeaaally quickly. If he wants to keep his kids away from all the sharper corners of the world then that's his business, and I fully support his right to do so. He hasn't said thing one that would affect my rights, so I say rock on. If your tv set has started doing something different lately, it sure as hell isn't his fault...

[triphop]

Offtopic:

If you think that Jesus would be allowed to live in this modern day any more than in Roman Jerusalem then you are naive. The difference is that instead of crucifixion, he would be gunned down or somehow fall out of a 5th floor window or be stabbed in some prison "incident". Any number of ends - there is no way the power elite would allow a Jesus like figure to roam free, making trouble.

Your christian religion is simply one of the many ways you are distracted and not causing trouble for the rulers. Mass media and mass culture are other ways to do this.

That is not to say that I think your belief system is invalid or wrong - I just have no opinion on it.

[gitreel]

that is fine, and I am not saying you are going to hell or anything. But, in the future please keep inflamatory statements like that to yourself. I could care less what you do. I just don't like what you said earlier.

[au7usa]

They regulate Smokers because they say the "Airspace" belongs to everyone, so why can't they regulate "Airwaves" based on the same premise?

Law is so inconsistent. Either let us watch porn, or leave the poor smokers alone.

[gitreel]

he was asking about him, not you. I do not care what you watch. Just because they make a dvd player that has a filter does not mean you have to buy it. What he does does not affect anybody else in any way, shape or form so wtf is the problem. I support him, as I have a 2.5 year old son, and I wouldn't want him watching that either. Nobody said you couldn't watch it. We are not talking about smoking either.

[Capmaster]

Last call for posts before a mod locks this thread down

[triphop]

Heres a radical idea:

How about if you get to choose what your children watch and not the manufacturers of the DVD player. Lets say I wanted all references to comsumerism removed - things like gratuitous product placements, etc - how would I get to choose that option. This DVD player is simply reflecting someone elses set of moral choices. Not good.

Anyway its probably not a good idea to be exposing your child to non-interactive entertainment at this stage. Let him/her play with toys or run around outside. Parental involvement is worth more than any teletubbies...

[Matteo693]

This is a troubling concept and since I have two young ( 6 & 8 ) children, it does affect me.

I would certainly not expose my children to a movie that has been censored because there are plenty of great movies that do not require this. Personally I dont really like gratuous violence or strong language but I exercise that choice by not viewing films of that nature. I do not have any right to stop others watching such films, material.

The USA is basically a theocracy where the christian elites try and tell us what to watch and how to live our lives. Who the hell told them I can't buy beer on a sunday or that I need to hear their bullshit prayers. They would be offended if they were forced to slaughter chickens to some idol, but they dont see the irony of their position.

These same f*ckers would nail up Jesus again in a heartbeat. Or maybe they'd just put a hood on him first and then electrocute him.

Beautifully said! See? Us Christians & Satanists can live comfortably together if only we try!!!? Ha ha...

Let's get rid of all the uptightness in this world!!! Together, we can do it!!!

[gitreel]

Heres a radical idea:

How about if you get to choose what your children watch and not the manufacturers of the DVD player. Lets say I wanted all references to comsumerism removed - things like gratuitous product placements, etc - how would I get to choose that option. This DVD player is simply reflecting someone elses set of moral choices. Not good.

Anyway its probably not a good idea to be exposing your child to non-interactive entertainment at this stage. Let him/her play with toys or run around outside. Parental involvement is worth more than any teletubbies...

Did it ever occur to you that he might want it that way. It doesn't affect you, so why are you getting your panties in a bunch about it? If you don't like it, don't buy it. How hard is that. Case closed

[Matteo693]

Look, my question is simply this: Why would a christian or uptight moralist want to watch an R-rated film with the swear words "bleeped" out? There's still violent scenes, sex scenes, etc. Do they wanna "bleep" them out too? What is left of the film? A few minutes of family fun?

WHY BOTHER???? Just go & rent out a Spielberg movie...chrissakes... :P

[Capmaster]

Look, my question is simply this: Why would a christian or uptight moralist want to watch an R-rated film with the swear words "bleeped" out? There's still violent scenes, sex scenes, etc. Do they wanna "bleep" them out too? What is left of the film? A few minutes of family fun?

WHY BOTHER???? Just go & rent out a Spielberg movie...chrissakes... :P

What fun is that? Then they couldn't force their morality on the rest of us :P

[Matteo693]

You're right, it's a power trip. Control freaks.

[byoung210]

Excuse me? At exactly what point in this discussion did byoung210 say that he wanted to control what you watch? I have a lot of gripes with the Ashcrofts and Powells in this country, but byoung hasn't set off my Falwell-O-Meter yet, and mine goes off reeeaaally quickly. If he wants to keep his kids away from all the sharper corners of the world then that's his business, and I fully support his right to do so. He hasn't said thing one that would affect my rights, so I say rock on. If your tv set has started doing something different lately, it sure as hell isn't his fault...

thanks for defending me. really i don't understand why everyone is getting worked up. i'm choosing to do this. i'm not asking you too. i'm not forcing anything on anybody. rather an option has been put out by a company that i like and want to use. so i will buy it. i don't care if you buy it. oh and it doesn't just censor the language. it also works with the violence and sex. of those 3 categories there are 3 settings for each for each, depending on the level you want exposed.
but again, i reiterate, i like this. and i really don't care if you do and i surely not going to try and make you.
thanks for understanding. let's quit being this and start being this
(wow this topic has gone way off topic)!

[gitreel]

You're right, it's a power trip. Control freaks.

It doesn't affect you. This is no power trip. Like I said before you can watch what you want. How is that forcing my will on you?

[Matteo693]

Ha ha, fair enough, pal... My point about it affecting me was simply that I have to personally suffer censorship on my TV set, on my video games (eg Duke Nukem), in my mail (intercepted continually by Customs), etc etc. I could seriously go ON and ON. I hate it. It scares me. And I can only see a christian-type moralistic schizophrenia behind it all. What else would cause this sad state of human affairs???

See, people who are easily offended (ie uptight) write letters to parliament, or to the newspaper editorials etc... While the rest of us are shaking our heads going "Whaddaf---?"... I just think most people in this stupid world are uptight. That's what makes this world stupid.

TripHop said it right, I think (from your side of the argument!?)... I like his attitude, even if I don't agree with his beliefs.

And...You still haven't answered my question: WHY on earth do you insist on watching MY favourite films, but with all the good bits cut out??? That's just childish (to me)...

I certainly have no interest in watching, say, some Spielberg "family" movie with heaps of swear words "dubbed" in...!!! (Tho' that would prob'ly be quite funny)...

[Capmaster]

You're right, it's a power trip. Control freaks.

It doesn't affect you. This is no power trip. Like I said before you can watch what you want. How is that forcing my will on you?

I think the power trip comes in when they feel it's their duty to protect us from ourselves and our own free will, much like you would do with a recalcitrant child.

[gitreel]

i could care less. I watch them myself. I just don't want my two year old watching.

[gitreel]

as far as censorship goes, you have janet jackson to thank for that.

[Capmaster]

as far as censorship goes, you have janet jackson to thank for that.

Eeeewwwwwww SHe's just gross - looks too much like her brother

[Matteo693]

EDIT: Ha ha forget it...

[byoung210]

While the rest of us are shaking our heads going "Whaddaf---?"

it's pretty funny that you just censored yourself there.

[Matteo693]

While the rest of us are shaking our heads going "Whaddaf---?"

it's pretty funny that you just censored yourself there.

I'm a funny guy when you get to know me. Ha.

[Capmaster]

While the rest of us are shaking our heads going "Whaddaf---?"

it's pretty funny that you just censored yourself there.

Self-censorship = "manners"

[gitreel]

as far as censorship goes, you have janet jackson to thank for that.

Eeeewwwwwww SHe's just gross - looks too much like her brother

I am just waiting for her to start messing with little girls. Like bro, like sis