How do I burn @ Slower then 1x?

[InfiniteDi]

How do I burn @ Slower then 1x?

for dvds..
It seems the slower i burn then, the better my dvd player can play it..

Thanks in advance.!

[gitreel]

you can't burn slower than 1x. 1x is the basement(starting point)

[tompika]

You can do it via USB 1.1...

[gitreel]

he might take you seriously. :P Infinite, you need to look at the speed ratings on blanks. They start at 1x and go from there. You cannot burn slower than 1x. If you could, they would make a .5x rating for disc. Gotta go. (Megamaid has gone from suck to blow.)

[InfiniteDi]

Well, DVD Decrypter software can reach levels of lower then 1x when the buffers run slow...
soo, it can reach lower then 1x..rit?

[tompika]

I'm being serious.

I burned a DVD+RW via USB1.1 once in about two hours.


But I doubt it would increase compatibility.
In fact the writer has to stop writing a millon times that is bad for the writing quality.

[InfiniteDi]

hm, ok ic,
so your dvdrw drive is external connect via usb?

Well, if you explain it that way, then i guess 0.5x won't be anybetter

[gitreel]

the question is why? infinite, you are confusing reading speed with writing speed. More than likely you had bad media you were trying to read from. The disc might have been scratched or dirty and the laser had a hard time trying to read it.

[InfiniteDi]

but, isn't it well known that burning at faster speed causes "errors" on the disc if you want to call it that?
i've seen it over and over agian for my self..

[gitreel]

tompika, why on earth would you even try to write that slow, when the base writing spec starts at 1x? Even for cd-r, the spec starts at 1x.

[indolikaa]

I think he was writing at 1X. The buffer underruns stopped the writing process often enough that the burn took longer?

[tompika]

tompika, why on earth would you even try to write that slow, when the base writing spec starts at 1x?

In fact writing a DVD+R/W starts at 2.4x
I just wanted to know wether JustLink worked as it was supposed to.

[Capmaster]

I'm being serious.

I burned a DVD+RW via USB1.1 once in about two hours.


But I doubt it would increase compatibility.
In fact the writer has to stop writing a millon times that is bad for the writing quality.

I think that reported speed is just the average. It probably writes at 1X until the buffer empties, then stops the burn and refills the buffer, then writes. In which case it's not really slower than 1X.

I've written over 10B-T before using an attached network drive. It takes about 1 hour and 30 minutes that way. Still 1X though.

[tompika]

I think that reported speed is just the average. It probably writes at 1X until the buffer empties, then stops the burn and refills the buffer, then writes. In which case it's not really slower than 1X.

Nope it was writing at 0.3-0.8x
1x is not an option for the plus format, anyway...

[InfiniteDi]

tompika:
so is your dvdrw drive external?
is that the only way to get it slower then 1x.?

[tompika]

Yes, one of them

Even if you could write slower than 1x it wouldn't do any good

[spiderman2k1]

On the Panasonic when you dub to fit the video on a DVD-R it can take six hour's to burn one DVD-R if you want six hour's of video on the DVD-R. You would only do this is you record on XP one hour, SP two hour's, LP four hour's, and need to fit the six hour's of video on a DVD-R. The new Panasonic E85 has a eight hour mode then you could burn a DVD-R in eight hour's.

If you burn in High speed Dubbing then no matter how long the video is will take hour one to fill the disc up.

[gitreel]

spiderman, wtf are you talking about? We are not discussing standalone dvd recorders. we are talking about burners. next time...read the thread

[glockjs]

if reliability is that much a factor that you wanna spend over and hour just burning a dvd i would first switch media and if that doesnt work get a different burner. havnt had a prob with my 4x burns yet.

[Gil T Pleasure]

We are not discussing standalone dvd recorders. we are talking about burners.

Why is this thread posted in the DVD Recorders section then? :P

[lordsmurf]

but, isn't it well known that burning at faster speed causes "errors" on the disc if you want to call it that?
i've seen it over and over agian for my self..

NO, that's a myth. Your experience is with bad media, not burn speed.

[nezza_42]

Probably bo!!0x but is it also true that you can get better burns by NOT burning too slow as the laser can "over-burn" the data at slower speed

[tweedledee]

Why don't you get a better paying job, so burning the odd coaster is not such a problem? If money is not the problem, then try not to be so picky. I've never heard such crap........except the "how do I make a post" episode.

[nezza_42]

The poster wasn't complaining about making coasters....his Q was regards improving playability in his DVD Player

[gitreel]

We are not discussing standalone dvd recorders. we are talking about burners.

Why is this thread posted in the DVD Recorders section then? :P

because it is in the wrong section. If you read the whole thread, you will see that.

[lordsmurf]

Why don't you get a better paying job, so burning the odd coaster is not such a problem? If money is not the problem, then try not to be so picky. I've never heard such crap........except the "how do I make a post" episode.

That's a real ******* answer.

I can monetarily afford as many blanks as I need, but I can't necessarily afford the wasted time. Nothing wrong trying to get your coaster-count down to zero, nothing at all.

[tweedledee]

Nothing wrong trying to get your coaster-count down to zero, nothing at all

Every day we read in this forum about flashing drives to get more speed. I'm ready to go out and buy a 8x burner. The guys who design DVD burners are busting a gut to be the first with a 10x or 12x. Then along comes a guy who wants to burn at not 1x, but LESS than 1x, maybe, for all we know, he's quite happy to take 10 hours to burn a disc. All this for an imaginary increase in quality, and to save a coaster. This is MONTY PYTHON stuff. These are the type of guys who watched B/W TV for years after color came in because it was "better" Can you imagine if Pioneer came out with a new "half" speed burner? only take 2 hours to burn a DVD. I'm sure they'd be flying off the shelf. BTW. If I can burn at 4x and not get coasters, then ANYONE can.(seeing that I'm fairly new at it)

[MeTaLgEaRsOoTy]

yeh,if you have speed problems,then either,
1.buy a new decent high speed burner.
2.buy a decent standalone player.
3.buy a decent pc,that will accomadate Ultra DMA,et al,and allow proper writing at high speed.
or
4.buy some decent media,stop using cmc,or pricko based dvds.

whoever would want to burn at less than 1 speed,"because my dvd player plays them better",is living in another world.
better off leaving him there.

[glockjs]

yeh,if you have speed problems,then either,
1.buy a new decent high speed burner.
2.buy a decent standalone player.
3.buy a decent pc,that will accomadate Ultra DMA,et al,and allow proper writing at high speed.
or
4.buy some decent media,stop using cmc,or pricko based dvds.

1. my btc 8x burner is on sale for $80 righ now, 300+ burned and its supposed to be a cheap burner

2. $70 philips, plays dvd mp3, raw dvd iso, and just about anything i put in it

3. 1.1 celeron, no gonna even start on this one

4. no arguement here, dont be cheap!! haha, im still using my mxlrg02 that i got for under a buck a piece. lesson 1, shop around. even though i got memorex cmc and havnt really had a prob burning or playing it.

[888888]

Nothing wrong trying to get your coaster-count down to zero, nothing at all

Every day we read in this forum about flashing drives to get more speed. I'm ready to go out and buy a 8x burner. The guys who design DVD burners are busting a gut to be the first with a 10x or 12x. Then along comes a guy who wants to burn at not 1x, but LESS than 1x, maybe, for all we know, he's quite happy to take 10 hours to burn a disc. All this for an imaginary increase in quality, and to save a coaster. This is MONTY PYTHON stuff. These are the type of guys who watched B/W TV for years after color came in because it was "better" Can you imagine if Pioneer came out with a new "half" speed burner? only take 2 hours to burn a DVD. I'm sure they'd be flying off the shelf. BTW. If I can burn at 4x and not get coasters, then ANYONE can.(seeing that I'm fairly new at it)

This has to be the funniest post I have ever read on the forum. Hats off to you tweedledee and to InfiniteDi as well for the second funniest post ever(the question of this thread).

From my understanding, there are certain kinds of media that burn better at lower speeds (Optodisc for example). There are other kinds of media that were never intended to be used at the writing speed advertised(fraud) and will only work at 1x etc. Either way, it is a media problem. If you buy quality discs, there is no reason you should have any trouble getting prefect results at 4x since 4x technology is in no way inferior to 1x technology.