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Nah, that's Capmaster's forte. Sticky ones at that. Armourall, doncha know.
And, I wish you'd get rid of that damned annoying chain thing or whatever it is. As well a BJ_M and his goddamn shaking skull, or whatever the hell THAT is.
But, you wanta keep them, be my guest. I Ain't the boss, here.
Cheers,
George -
Aw come on, George! What's not to like about a hot Asian chick that can kick your ass? I think someone secretly wants an animated sig of his own.
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If U do well after finish U detal/medical school, U may OWN one of Blockbuster store!
The best part: U kids will get free dental/medical care plus all in-store DVDs.
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george, perhaps i've crossed wires, but i thought you were retired?
I don't like sigs with pics either, seeing it once is enough, if you get a discussion between folks with big sigs there's a lot of dead space.
imagine a row between teegee420 phunkie munkie and zzyxx(thinks that's his username) and suddenly your mouse wheel has turned into fred durst, just keeps rollin' rollin' rollin'! -
Job update....
I just got back from blockbuster...got the job. $7.00/hour(thats what they start everybody with). The only bad thing about it is that I have to go to an 8 hour training session(on top of the 14 hours that I have to attend but that I dont mind thats becuase its close) easily an hour and a half away from where I live. But at least I get paid for it.
As for the dental school...it's still in the works. I have to fill out some forms which I cant pick up until thursday since thats when summer school starts. -
teegee,
Hot Asian chick? hell, I thought that was a young John Carradine, you know, from Kung Fu. My mistake. She sure as hell doesn't look quite "hot".
Dr.Gee,
Say, 2000 per pay, 1100 takehome, 55 %, no Registered CPA needed. Simple math. I know you young'uns don't do "simple" math, it's all a+b=c, today, but us old farts still rely on our fingers a good bit. Except those old farts who have lost 1 or 2, we have a little problem with the decimal system.
Flan,
No, 31 months to go, under 1000 days, total, not low enough to count actual work days, be too depressing. Should have retired a year and a half ago, but they sold the damn company to Siemens, Brown Boveri, some Brit outfit, which took over the nuclear part, you might know the name, I don't particularly give a damn.
Ouch, that would kinda bend your mind. And BJ as monitor of it all.
You youngsters have a misconception about the healthcare your parents still have you covered under. This is addressed to the Americans, as the British and Canadians have "Socialized Medicine".
My ex and her latest husband have to pay (I think) 569 bucks a month for the months he is waiting for a call from his employer to go to a new job. That is from the day the last job is done till the day the new one begins, maybe three months.This is under COBRA, our fabulous Comprehensive Omnibus Benefits Replacement Act, which our Legislators were so generous as to make into law. Now, if he is not called to a job for, say 10 months , works only 2, it might be 70 % of his pay into his Health Insurance. And, since they are my age, it is foolish not to have coverage.
Since my generation eats meat, we're gonna die of atherosclerosis, as Cobra pointed out. (He's been suckered into the same shit as that ******* who got on his soapbox with a louder bullhorn, but that's neither here nor there)
Youy fall for every sucker thing that gets on the tube. "Ask for the Purple Pill". What, your doctor is too damn stupid to keep up with the new drugs? But, he has to give it to you, or you'll go find a "Smart" doctor who will.
There are more MRI machines in any one state, here than in all of Canada, and I would bet, Britain. Every doctor has access to one,if he doesn't have his own, either directly or as a partner. hey, they go a 1/4 million, or somesuch. Gotta pay for it, so, you got a hangnail, the insurance will pay for it.
Same with Life Flight. Every hospital has a 'copter. Costs a bunch to drive one. Heard a report a while back of an accident, injured party life flighted for possibe broken leg. 4500 bucks, but, don't worry, insurance will pay most of it.
Know of a guy (actually kind of related, thru marriage, found cancer, first prescription, 480 bucks, 20 pills. Now, how the hell long can a man afford to live at those rates" If in a "Socialized Medicine" country, all paid.
Smoking. Causes lung cancer. Proven beyond any kind of doubt. And 300,000 people a year die of SECONDHAND smoke. Cut me a fu**in' break, here. For Christ's sake, they don't even know how many people actually die of FIRSTHAND smoke.
Yous ee some old fart, 90 years old, smokin' 3 packs a day, the "experts" will tell you he's gonna die from them nasty cigs or pipe or cigars. Well, actually, he might, but the second shift of the cacklers who are waiting for him to drop dead will have to take over after they bury the original watcher.
But you kids just jump on the bandwagon and say "That's gonna kill you, my prof told me so." Or, worse, you 40 somethings who quit will tell you it's bad, and I don't want you smoking near me. One guy who threatened to take my head off told me on another meeting that my cig smelled so damned good he wanted to rip it out of my hand and suck it down. Not that it's bad for me or him, just it was so damn much of a temptation.
And, most people who quit any "vice" are the worst, holier than thou, kinda like TGPO. The same with some of the converters here, who screw up and say "I rented DVDXXX...", oops
I'll wager there's not 5 % of the members on this site who have not rented a DVD, liked it, and said I just gotta rip that for my collection.Not that I give a damn. Just, the site would be better off without the "holier than thous" who do frequent it
If I must quote chapter and verse, I will. Read the archives
Cheers,
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GuestGuestThis is the worst bracket to be in:Originally Posted by gmatov
This is taxable income not gross,so it may be a little off what we are talking about.
First $90k=29% after that 35%. So, even if u have 0 write offs,45% withholding seems a little high. -
I personally dislike smoking. i was at a friends last night and he smoked one cigarette. i picked up my clothes this morning and they stink. if one ciagrette can do that to my clothes, i hate to think what three packs a day does to your lungs.
I think smoking just increases the risk of lung cancer, i.e. you're twice as likely to get it if you smoke. of course it's still unlikely you'll get it all, just increases the risk.
as for the choppers, he got one for a SUSPECTED broken leg?! i got a four inch spiral fracture in my right leg, was left waiting ~30 minutes for an ambulance (lost consciousness at some point though) then a further 35 minutes to get to hospital then three hours before anything was done for me. and my leg is not fixed right, my foot is about 20 degrees clockwise of my knee, it's uncomfortable to drive (basically if on the clutch and brake at the same time my legs are pushed right together so i can actually get my foot on the brake) and i get pains if i wear shoes instead of boots above the ankle. gotta love our free health service. -
Flan,
I am not pushing smoking. I DO smoke. It's a nasty habit, damn near impossibleto break, and with a recently reported dsicovery in genetics, partially explained. There are people who have a real craving, not the "Jeez, I'd kill for a cigarette" craving, but a genetic need. It explains why one kid can smoke a cigarette and never smoke again, and another smokes one, keeps going and is hooked. The first is going to be the one who will bum one on occassion and not smoke again for months, years, or ever.
The second will buy all the placebos that are supposed to help you quit, and never will. I know smokers who have had a lung removed, still smoke, still living. I knew another who had his larynx removed and stuck the butt into his new breathing cavity, closed his mouth and inhaled that way. I don't know if he's still living, that was 30 some years ago, and he was way older than me.
Another guy (a bunch, really, as the company paid for it) went to hypnotists, and apparently all they got were nice little naps, as in a few months they were all smoking again.
You, apparently, are more sensitive to the odour of smoke than most. I can appreciate that. You don't like it, you don't like it. you must be good enough friends, though, that you will still visit and not insist that he not smoke in his own home.
That's not meant to be funny, either. Another "friend" I used to work with told us of a woman salesperson who urged him to just let her come to his house to demonstrate some great product, sat in his living room and, when he pulled out a cigarette, said she would prefer he not smoke while she was there. He rose, pointed to the door and told her to leave his home.
The "vocal minority" is the usual cause of any restrictive rule or law. The pollsters aside, who can take any issue, word it just so, and come up with the results they want, most people are live and let live. Hey, you're the one who's going to die, etc. But the non-smoker who goes into a restaurant and asks for "next available" in a divided restaurant, then complains when they get seated in the smoking section, not because they were seated there, but because smoking took place there.
They don't complain to the management, because they did ask for it, they will complain to the papers, to their civic representatives, to any who will listen. BANG!!! Next thing you know, as in New York City, under former smoker Mayor Bloomberg, no smoking permitted in ANY place of business, and Nicotine Nazis on patrol. Found a video store with an ash tray with one butt from a customer, and were fined up to a 6000 USD maximum. For having "Smoking Paraphernalia" on the premises. No one seen smoking, but, hey, if you got a bong, you're a doper.
Dr Gee,
We're talking at cross purpose here. You are misunderstanding me. When I say 45 %, I do not mean direct income tax, I mean 7.65 % SS/Medicare, 3 % State tax, 1 % local tax, UC tax, Union Dues, etc. I mean the amount of my paycheck that I can deposit in the bank.
Out of that, depending on what needs to be bought that pay period, for telephone service I will pay maybe 5 % of the bill in taxes, not directly called so, as a 911 "fee", and a "fee" for the telco's franchise, and number portability, and the same for gas and electric, regulatory fees, taxes, based on usage, as well as 6 % on non food/clothe items, tax at the pump for gas, with 6 % added to the cost, but in the dinger, so we don't see it. Not 6 cents per gallon, you see, as, when gas goes to 2 bucks, as it is now, they get 12 cents, double the monies without having to risk being voted out of office for doubling the tax.
10 % tax on a sporting event ticket, or a hotel room. 50 % tax on parking in a city parking lot. And then, your annual property tax, paid in a lump, prorate over a year, you've dropped below my estimate. Pretty soon, negative territory.
Cheers,
George
Didn't mean to write another book.
Funny thing, your remark about doubling lung cancer chance. The same person I alluded to above who was diagnosed with multiple cancers, smoked more even than I do. Everywhere but the lungs. Go figure. Can't be that they're lying to us, can it? That it just might be the shit the powers that be allow industry to pump into the air that is causing so many cancers of all sorts? And, that loaf of bread with 3 paragraphs of ingredients, or that oh so good for you energy bar? -
gmatov
Hate to burst your bubble George but in Canada at least it's not so cut and dried. While doctors and basic hospital ward beds and medicine prescribed while in hospital are covered it's not that simple. If you are over 65 or under 65 and very poor then you can qualify for assistance and receive free prescription drugs that are covered on gov't drug lists. That's not necessarily the latest and best stuff. In Ontario, some lower income (but not so poor) people can qualify to pay a reduced premium into a special insurance where they pay about $30 monthly premiums and have a $300 deductibe per year after which the plan will pay the cost of their medicine. In my case I have a plan carried over from my previous employment which costs me more as a retiree ($35 a month) and has a $100 annual deductible and then pays 80% of approved drugs and equipment. Some medically related equipment is covered as low as 50%. In addition it contributes $60 on top of a hospital ward bed. A semi private room is about $200 above a ward bed so basically I would be out of pocket $140 a day. I can upgrade my plan but that would cost me $75 a month and would barely cover a semi private room (2 beds) and no other benefits come with the extra premiums. Count too that we pay for the free part of our so called medicare through higher taxes.Know of a guy (actually kind of related, thru marriage, found cancer, first prescription, 480 bucks, 20 pills. Now, how the hell long can a man afford to live at those rates" If in a "Socialized Medicine" country, all paid.
Dental (except in hospital) is not covered unless you're destitute and then only certain dentists can be used. I have a separate plan to which I pay another $35 a month and the insurer pays 90% of it's approved fee schedule for dental procedures. This is unlicensed so most good dentists (dental surgeons) charge much more that the insurance approved fee and can easily be 50 to 100% higher. In addition say you want posts or special white filling that costs more? The insurer will not pay for these upgrades or will pay at the rate set for the inferior product. On top of that the dentists fees on the products are also higher and the insurance often only covers 50% of fillings etc.. Say that a normal gray filling material costs $40 but the dentist wants $60. The insurance would pay $20 for the material, half of $40 not $60. But you want the better white filling at $90. The insurance will still only pay $20 and that is after your annual deductible of $100 and that's just the material not the cost of the procedure.
Don't even talk about the wait for MRI or emergency services. My wife and I waited from 1 am to 7:30 am to be seen one night. There was one emergency room doctor on staff at the largest hospital in the city. One lady came in a wheelchair at about 3 am and cried and moaned in the waiting room until 7:00 am when more doctors came in to work at the emergency. At 7 am a nurse told us that unless you were in immediate danger of dying there was no way anyone was going to be seen that previous night but we were never told that until they moved us in a secondary waiting area in preparation for the arriving doctors at 7:00 / 7:30 am.
cheers
Sorry Devanshu
It's not quite on topic but I do mention dentists and movies are nice I watch them all the time. My daughter rents from blockbuster and likes them. (See how I snuck that in)
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Devanshu,
I don't rent from Blockbuster. Cost's too much. I can buy my era DVDs for a couple bucks more. Sorry
Now. That keeps me in the same vein as the thread, no hi-jacking.
gll,
I'll have to agree with you that your system is not even close to perfect, either.
But would anyone be carried out of one of yours in a box, and have his wife be told that she would have to sign over her house to pay for heart surgery when the husband died on the table? 125,000 buck bill, and we want it..
As long as medicine is a business that is dollar driven, from the doctor to the insurance companies, there will be no perfection.
Hell, 2000 years ago, charlatans screwed the gullible out of everything they had for "medical" services. And there were a hell of a lot fewer "services". No tummy tucks, no ass reductions, no fatter lip surgery, no gastric resection. No GERD, or any of the other madeup "diseases".
No Zantac or the half a dozen other 1500 buck a year miracle drugs to "heal" your ulcer. Hell, when Dr.Barry Marshall found the cure for ulcers, they damn near drummed him out of the medical profession for conduct unbecoming a pill pusher. Imagine, actually healing a condition!!! Heresy. We could have mulcted him for the rest of his life.\
No, my friend, the medical profession is not designed to save life, per se, it is more to keep you on their list of paying patients for the rest of your life.
I guess there are some doctors in training here who may not like this, but so be it.
Hey, let's face it, if they could cure cancer and heart disease, where would we be? Up to our noses in excess people. 275 million people in the US, if say, 4 % don't die per year, how many more would there be in 10 years? And what would the stockholders in Service Corporation, largest funeral home owner in the US say? That, too, is a big business.
And, as to the taxes, we are charged every bit as much as you, but not taken directly out our paycheck. On the other hand, if we had to buy our own, then the union contracts would be changed to reflect that in our paycheck. If I am laid off, and required to pay 569 USD per month to carry the group plan, and under COBRA the cost is supposed to be 2 % service fee over cost of insurance, then, to buy my own services or insurance would be 1/7 of my pay, or 14 %, the same as you pay.
So, where the hell is the difference? Oh, yes, the same scenario you described does happen here, in more populated areas. In less populated areas, you willusually see a doctor within a few hours of reaching the office or the hospital, depending on the state of their emergency list, most badly injured/sickest, will be seen first.
flan, I think, mentioned that he has a bad leg because of a compound fracture badly treated. One thing I can say is that if he were here, he would at least have a lawsuit going for him. We have more lawyers than any other country in the world. and they all need work, so they all dream up things to make illegal, so they can get to work milking people of all they have to get them out of troible.
All you have is not a figure of speech, it was the fee quoted some years by a famous defense lawyer when asked what the defense was going to cost..
Cheers,
George Going to bed, can't take no mo'. -
Yeah, i'd be a bad friend if i did that, in my house my rules apply, but just because i don't like the smoke doesn't mean i have the right to stop him in his. if he objected to, say, the smell of coffee, i would still drink it in front of him. i think pubs and bars should all be free to decide whether they are smoking or non smoking, public spaces however i think should be thrown open to a public vote. although not sure that would work over here, smoking seems to be related to class. all too-lazy-to-work-scum smoke, most manual workers smoke, some middle class folks smoke and a minority of upper class people do. i don't see one toff saying "excuse me chaps, but i really think you'd better put those out, it has been outlwaed you know!" to a group of ten 17 year olds and living to tell the tale.
I've actually found it really interesting working at different places the level of smokers, in the theatre one guy did, the security guy, in a photographic processing plant/csutomer service centre (weird mixture) the photo processing people all smoked and only one or two office people smoked. where i am now, a cleaning equipment and chemicals company, no one at all.
It could well be that it's all lies about causing cancer. but even the other effects should put you off! bad smelling clothes and breath, can't taste your food, yellow fingers, thick mucus in your lungs all the time and a big hole in your pocket. i can understand the "little bit of pleasure" argument, but few people smoke like that. one or two a week with one or two beers a week i could understand it, but 60 a day? surely that's just a smokers equivalence of an alcoholic? last i checked most alcoholics don't enjoy drinking anymore. Anyway, it's all down to opinion, i don't want to get anyones back up and get this locked!
As for the leg, i did see all the "you can sue everyone NOW!!" adverts on the tv and the thought briefly crossed my mind. but it's morally questionable to go "i didn't receive proper treatment! i deserve money! i wonder why i didn't get proper treatment? oh, the system doesn't have enough money? well screw them i deserve £10K!!"
In the same way i was disgusted by a story in our papers a few weeks ago. a guy paid for his two daughters to have private math tuition as they had both shown promise in the area, but the school didn't have the resources to give them additional tutoring. he's now sueing his local education authority for the money he paid in tuition fees, AND "damages" because the system didn't treat his daughters right!! what a dick! some people are so blind when it comes to their own actions. -
And when you are done watching it, you can always eBay it.Originally Posted by gmatov
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