How To Add Subtitles to a DVD. (THE COMPLETE WORKING GUIDE).

[fpetit]

The million dollar question
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I've been looking for a program that allows me to subtitle a DVD...I couldn't find it so far. All those programs out there only let you multiplex SYNC subtitles that already exists. How do you insert/create a NEW subtitle if you CAN'T have a preview of video, audio and subtitles???.
I wasn't able to find an application just like Subtitle Workshop which is excellent for DivX. Is there something like this for DVDs?

[manono]

Hi-

For me, audio is enough to use to synch the subs. I use SubStation Alpha and create the subs in SSA format. You extract the audio from the DVD as WAV audio (DGIndex can do this easily, Audio->Output Method->Decode to WAV) and convert it to an 8-bit Mono WAV file using some WAV Editor. Then you can open that WAV file in SubStation Alpha and go to work making subs. After you're done, if your authoring app doesn't accept SSA subs, just convert them to something else it does accept.

If you insist on using both video and audio for the synching, then use AutoGK's 1-pass Target Quality Mode to make a fast AVI. To make the encoding go a bit faster, fix the width at 512 or something small like that.

Those are just 2 ways to create already synched up subs. There are more, I'm sure.

Synching up subs you downloaded somewhere is different. You have to adjust them if your video is PAL and your subs for NTSC or vice-versa. And you might have to adjust the delay a bit. I might make a quick AVI for that as well, although it isn't always necessary.

[fpetit]

Those methods are not serious to do the job. Suppose you have to translate the WHOLE movie into a new language.

[saga_gx]

hi, newbie in the forum

I followed the guide but I'm having some problems with the extras on the dvd.

On the original dvd, all the video, extras included are under VTS_01_x
and when i demux the content with dvd decrypter I only get the main movie but not the extras in it.
So when I replace the original files the first part of the extras is left out (wich starts at half vts_01_4)

My question is how do i get dvd decrypter to include the extras when the movie is extracted from the dvd. so I don't lose them in the process of adding the subs for the main movie.
thanks

[manono]

Hi-

If you want everything, decrypt with DVD Decrypter set for File Mode. It sounds to me as if you have it set for IFO Mode, which will only give you the main movie, unless you decrypt the other PGCs separately.

[saga_gx]

yes, I have it on ifo mode as the guide says

[manono]

As I said, if you use IFO Mode, you'll get just the movie, because the extras, while in the same VTS, are in different PGCs. I'm sure you can see them, even though DVD Decrypter chooses the longest PGC (the movie) by default. Again, if you want the whole thing in one go, use File Mode. Or stay in IFO Mode and decrypt the extras separately. Or get everything at once using File Mode and then get the different PGCs after that using PGCDemux.

My recommendation is to use File Mode on the whole DVD, and then demux what you want using PGCDemux. That guide is old and out of date. You sure as heck don't need DVDLab Pro to do what you want.

For DVD, do each PGC separately, and then replace them back into the DVD after reencoding, using the Replace button of VobBlanker. That way you'll keep the menus and whatever else you might want of the extras, at the same time blanking out any warnings, previews or extras that you might not want to keep.

[saga_gx]

Is there a way to get all the pgc as one large video file? ,
so I don't have to join everything before muxing it

I've been following this guide now
https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=275603
but my problem is how to put everything together. I mean the movie and the extras.

[manono]

That's a more up-to-date guide, follows the generally recommended method in use these days, and is the method I outlined briefly in my previous post.

You don't have to join anything together. Just use Muxman to author the different PGCs, and then replace them one-by-one using VobBlanker. Have you even opened the original DVD in VobBlanker yet, and seen the various PGCs all listed separately?

As mentioned farther down in the responses to that guide, you no longer need IFOEdit for working with the subs. PGCEdit does it faster and more easily.

[Aprophis]

Hey there

I followed your guide but when i had finished the subtitle stream didn't match the movie/audio (the subtitles were shown before the people spoke) - maybe i didn't choose the right .srt file, but how do I know which subtitle stream is the right one for my movie??

Thank you

[manono]

Hi-

If the subs are off by the same amount all the way through the DVD, you can adjust their delay using DVDSubEdit. If they get worse and worse as the movie goes along, then probably you started with NTSC subs where the DVD you made is PAL, or vice-versa. Then you should adjust the subs before adding them into the DVD.

[Aprophis]

How can I adjust the subs?? (it's an NTSC dvd movie)

[manono]

It might help if you actually gave the right information. Do you have a constant asynch (off the same amount all the way through)? I said the subs in the finished DVD can be adjusted using DVDSubEdit:

http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/UserManual/helpfile.htm

Section 3.2

Do you have a progressive asynch (gets worse as the movie goes along)? You said the DVD is NTSC. So maybe the subs are from the PAL version. In what format are the subs? If IDX/SUB, you change from 25->23.976 using the "Modify FPS" part of the Sub File Cutter that comes with VobSub. If SRT subs, you can change the framerate using Subtitle Creator before using them in the DVD.

[Aprophis]

Hey again

So PAL movies are 25 and NTSC movies are 23.976 (excuse me, this is very new foor me)

[manono]

Yes.

[Aprophis]

Which kind of subtitles do you all use the most?? .srt .sub ...?

[Aprophis]

and where do you find them?

[Aprophis]

Once i have removed the delay from the subs, what do i have to do next because i'm under the impression that nothing has happened with the subs....??

[manono]

The timestamps should have changed. Put the subs back into the DVD now.

[niko_nikic]

Hi
Does this tutorial work with a DVD that has NO subtitles yet, and I want to add the first one? If it's possible, how can I do that?

Please help!!!!

[josecuervo]

TheMatrixx

Thank You so much !!!
This guide works just perfect !!!
I had some problems with the subtitles i downloaded fron the net, they were out of sync i used SubAdjust to fix the problem if you had encounter this problem this is what i did:
open subadjust
select the source file (we are going to use the timings from the riped DVD, since then they have the perfect time) they are located in the Demuxed DVD carpet we created at the begining of the guide (vts_number_number_subtitle_language_etc)
select the target file(s) the one(s) you downloaded
I left everything as custom , I didnt change o choose anything
click go and wait.
when tis done just follow the guide to add the sub you just fix step 2. e
this work for me, hope it work for you
Again TheMatrix thank you !

[hanime22]

Hi,
I started using this guide a few days ago and I have to say it is the best. Thank you Matrixx for making it possible to watch movies with the subtitles usually ignored by the production companies.
My first 2 conversions (1 PAL, 1 NTSC) were perfect. Both had AC3 2ch audio.
I have a problem with my third movie. The audio is AC3 5.1ch. The final audio is gargled and has a very low quality. I listened to the Demuxed AC3 stream and it sounds fine. So, it seems like a problem in the multiplexing by DVD-Lab. The movie time is 1:24:24. One weird thing I have noticed inside DVD-Lab is in the length of each stream:

The AC3 stream 1:24:24 (like the original)
The Video stream 2:24:23 (Almost 1 hour longer)

When I try to preview the movie in DVD-Lab, the time starts at 59:59.

I don't know if this is the cause of the problem. Any ideas?

Thank you.

[driguy]

In DVDLab, go to Tools, -> Rewrite GOP Timecode... That will rewrite the "Start Time" of the video elementary stream to 0:0:00.

As for the sound being garbled... There are many reasons why that could be. I have no idea what you are using to listen to the .AC3 file by itself. I'd need some more information in order to be able to help you with this specific problem.

EDIT: Maybe you should start a new post pertaining to the audio being garbled after compile in DVDLab but not when you listen to it (with whatever program it is you listen to it with). I'm sure another member of the forum could shed some light on it for you, provided you give them enough details.

[guyx1992]

First of all, thanx TheMatrixx!
i have a problem.. on step 2b, when i need to import the audio and video files i can only find the video files... :X
the DVD is NTSC...
please help :P

[cemman]

Hi, it's too bad that no white rabbit to chase around anymore but that's life and I am happy 4 Matrix that he got a life and thanks to him there is this little 17 page of help fountain.

Now, is there anybody out there that would know anything about DvdDecrypter not being able to extract the audio from dvd?

Out of 5 times only once I was able to get a audio file all the other times there is no audio file in demuxed folder... So if anybody suggest anything I appreciate it. Thanks

[cemman]

'' Or you can make the whole thing with the new guide. ''
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The Matrix had a new guide! But the link doesn't exists anymore! So anybody had a chance to download it would you please post it here?

Also, as you know I had problem with demuxing audio with DVDDecrypter. So I tried DVDFab Decrypter yet it doesn't demux the dvd it just rips it!
So does anyone knows an alternative program which I can use for STEP 1 - DVD Decrypter in this guide? I want to use it in IFO mode, not just to rip the whole thing...

(a). Insert in the DVD-ROM the disc on which you want to add a subtitle. Open DVD Decrypter, go to Tools menu and then press "Settings" and after that press "IFO Mode" tab and set the parameters like in the image below.)

Thanx

[Janenba]

MANY TNX to matrix who provided us whit an tutorial to getting us start...
Also big tnx to all those who lend us their ear and helped us out.

Up until Know everthing still works great. Ive had done Pal and Ntsc both through IfoUpdate to keep menus and such.

However, when i do an NTSC source and re-compile the whole thing, when watching it starts an piece of the movie like 15 - 25 secs and then skipps to the menu!!!!

Can some one help me Clearing that out for me please !! It happends whit every NTSC source to date ive made and it never ocurs whit pal sources. Pal works just GREAT time and again. But once i start the movie through the menu it plays everything just fine. Subtitle and audio aswell plays everything in synch
Ive read storys about reijig performing better. But i dont know how to keep menus by only using Reijig!? I thought Reijg wos another Author program. But my problem lies beyond that.


many tnx in advance,

urs jannenba,

[SilverDales]

Hi, my problem is I have an AVI I have converted with DVD2SVCD to MPEG format demuxed to .mpv and AC3 files. I always use DVDLab to author my movies and this was my first Subtitles movie. I followed everything right in guides but when I burn and play on my standalone the subtitles are played in the black bottom bar and are too low down the screen and some don't show at all. How do I bring them up higher? I also can't seem to preview what I'm doing in DVDLab.

[manono]

Hi-

How do I bring them up higher?

Unless you "burned" or "embedded" them into the video, you can raise them using DVDSubEdit:

http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/UserManual/helpfile.htm

Section 2.7

[SilverDales]

Well I think they become part of the vob files during the authoring.