Strange CSI: Season One (Volume One)

[sukoto]

I am trying to backup my CSI: Season One (Volume One) DVD set... After ripping it with DVDDecrypter, and opening it with DVDShrink, I was amazed to find that each episode was in the 'main movie' list THREE times! This is the same story for discs two and three...

Can someone explain to me why it shows each episode appears three times (i.e. 12 episode tracks on the disc)?

Is there a difference between each episode, or can I just select one of the three and run my backup?

[jbelder]

Thats probally how many episodes there are per disc.There is usually three to four per disc with most episodes. You need all of them.

[Gurm]

Different versions, perhaps? Widescreen and regular? Or perhaps edited with some voiceovers or extras or something integrated?

Disney movies, for example, have multiple versions on the same disc. Finding Nemo comes in Widescreen and regular... either will fit nicely on a single DVD-R, but together they are 8GB.

- Gurm

[adam]

I seriously doubt each episode is stored 3 times. This is just a limitation of a transcoder which cannot separate those titles which are unique and those which reuse cells from another title. For instance, there is probably a single cell or set of cells that differs in each of those 3 versions, the end credits for example (maybe different languages?) and the episode itself is just the same cells repeated. You've got to find out what those extra titles are to make an educated decision as to what to keep or not. Its not an easy tool to use but IFOEdit is best for this. You can look at the vob-ids listed in each title and quickly see what is different about each of these titles.

Yes some DVDs do store multiple versions of the entire film for various reasons, usually only if it has both WS and FS versions. But I doubt they did this for an episodic DVD like this. 12 episodes would be very tough to squeeze on one disk.

Gurm in region 1 Finding Nemo comes on 2 separate DVD9's. One disk has FS and the other has WS. At least that's how my version is. But you're right multiple aspect ratio versions are common animated movies since they are generally so short.

[wulf109]

I think it has to do with how the ifo files play the episodes. For example on the Babylon 5 disks it lists each episode separately and all episodes as one movie. The menu gives the option to play the disk either way.
Same kind thing here propably,look at the menus,are there play options?

[adam]

Yeah the ever common "play all" option. If you're not careful you end up storing everything twice. There's all kinds of reasons to re-use vob-ids, you've got to keep your eye's peeled.

[Gurm]

Hmm... ok so maybe Finding Nemo was a bad example (although there are two separate versions of the film on the disc, I tend to think that it's the "reusing cells" thing). "A Bug's Life", on the other hand, stores both versions right on the main disc. So does "Monsters, Inc."

- Gurm

[Brent212]

I was going to post this as a new topic, but I think it relates to this one:

When opening a TV series disc (Curb Your Enthusiasm, season 1, volume 1) in dvd shrink, under the "Full Disc" mode, it shows a main movie listing as "Title 1-6" (there are 6 episodes) on the disc. I'd like to be able to keep all the menus and just set the last two episodes to still pics so that the first 4 will not be compressed at all, but there's no way that I can see in dvd shrink to do this. And the funny thing is that I can go to "Reauthor Mode" and see all the titles separate in the dvd browser, and thus place only the first 4 episodes onto a new disc. This is alright, as I get the four episodes uncompressed, but it'd be nice to keep the menus also. I don't understand why dvd shrink sticks them altogether in "Full Disc" mode. Are there any other similar programs to dvd shrink that don't do this? This has been the case on every TV series set of dvd's I've tried to backup with shrink.

Thanks,
Brent